Does the UK have the most immutable class system in the world

>>2975508
OP here, no idea why I wrote mail rather than male. My brain just had a moment.

Good, just as it should be. New money are obnoxious, tasteless cunts.

>>2975508
they used to knight guys who did well militarily or financially
now they do it if they sell enough CDs and live long enough

>>2975528
Doesn't make one upper class though, especially because knighthoods only last for a single lifetime, the really respectable titles are hereditary. The same applies with life peers.

Also they do save the good knighthoods for such causes, look at the Knights of the Garter, John Major and the guy who owns Sainsbury's are pretty much the only people your average citizen would recognise.

>>2975514
I do think new money can definitely run in their circles but they will always be outsiders. The upper-class has so many little rules that betray your real class to anyone whose familiar with them -- look at U and non-U English for example, the words that aspirational middle-class people think are posh out them as being exactly what they are -- middle-class. The upper-class and the working-class use many of the same words, which the middle-class entirely avoid. (e.g. Loo is posh, toilet isn't. Bike is posh, cycle isn't).

>>2975508
I'm German and I studied in England and from what I can tell it's no different anywhere in western Europe. You may study hard and get a degree in medicine and study on after to become a heart surgeon for example but you still aren't going to earn more than 100,000 a year even when that's not including taxes but America if that was you you'd be a millionaire in three years.

>>2975541
Middle class people usually speaks the exact same as a modern upper class.High Received Pronunciation is only spoken in movies now.

>>2975563
In terms of accent this is largely true, but the vestiges of word-choice, fashion, etc. are still class indicators.

>>2975566
Fashion of course but most of the time it depends on the individual. Does he read? What school did he go to?

>>2975541
If I ever got the chance I wouldn't give a damn about their customs and would rub my lack of knowledge in their face just so they are aware that their pretentious asses are comparable to my rude uncultured ass.

>>2975619
That would not bother them. Have you ever interacted with an aristocrat? They are filled from a very young age with unbounded confidence and social skills. The vast, vast majority would be extremely polite to your face and make your weird confrontational attitude as non-awkward as possible. Then proceed to talk down on you behind your back for 5 minutes and promptly forget your existence.

>>2975623
I probably phrased myself too hard, but I wouldn't be confrontational or impolite the way you're probably imagining it.

I would be myself and confident, not playing on their terms. I'd also try to achieve things, highlighting that their pretentious ways are unnecessary for success. I think I would attract some secret admiration this way.

>>2975643
thats a very american way of thinking though, its completely different the way the class structure is carried out in america.

>>2975743
Everyone loves confidence

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>>2975508
>Does the UK have the most immutable class system in the world in terms of reaching the upper-classes?

Nobody invaded them after the Normans and they only had one (unsuccessful) revolution.

>>2975643
How naive.

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>>2975643
>having a chip on your shoulder