>Why do you practice a certain religion >Person gives a

Because most people have neither the time nor inclination to dive into a lengthy theological debate because some random dipshit decided to question their belief.

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>>2970715
Why even believe in something if you can't explain why you believe in it?

I follow catholicism like 10% out of faith, 90% out of tradition.

My family has been catholic since...well, as far back as I can find (roughly early 1600s...God bless the Dutch and their hard on for book-keeping).

Who the fuck am I to spit in the face of (at least) 400 years of religious tradition? Do I believe in all of it? Not really. I'm religious in the sense I believe in God, but that's about it. I just enjoy taking part in something I know has been a part of my bloodline for centuries.

>>2970724
They can, they just don't have the time or care to explain it to your autistic ass

>>2970724

There's 'can't explain' and 'doesn't feel like explaining every time some smug asshole tries to start a debate'. There's plenty of shit I can explain on plenty of subjects that I sure as shit can't be assed to discuss every time some nobody tries to engage with me, I've got other shit to do than argue.

Were they proselytizing? If so, sure, debate them. Were they just religious people minding their own business? Then mind your own fucking business

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>>2970750
>Do I believe in all of it? Not really.
You're not Catholic then
>>2970751
Doubt it, sweetie
>>2970756
I'm not wanting a debate, just a reason why they follow a certain faith and not another, "I was born into it", and "my ancestors practiced it" are not sound reasons

>>2970767

Who are you asking and why? If you want to discuss theology, ask a fucking priest.

>why do you believe in biology
>Person gives a non-scientific answer

The answer is "people generally believe what they're told by people they view as authority figures", scientist or priest hardly makes a difference, the average person can defend their scientific beliefs about as effectively.

If you're starting these discussions to learn, ask a priest. If you're starting these discussions to act like a smug asshole and "school" a theist, get your head out of your ass and realize it's a masturbatory waste of time that is entirely for your own gratification, which is a large part of why nobody probably wants to engage with you.

>>2970767
>You're not a Catholic then

Thanks, random guy on a mongolian basket making forum. I'll reconsider my entire life and the foundations of my religious faith because of this. At last I'm truly WOKE.

>>2970709
>I'm not wanting a debate, just a reason why they follow a certain faith and not another, "I was born into it", and "my ancestors practiced it" are not sound reasons

Oh, so you only want reasons that you like?

>>2970786
>be muslim
>drink alcohol and fuck dudes all the day
>LOL WHO ARE YOU TO SAY I'M NOT MUSLIM

>>2970792
So if I'm Jewish and I eat a ham and cheese sandwich, I just stop being Jewish?

>>2970792

>every member of a religion has to be a frothing-at-the-mouth fundamentalist

If you're wondering why nobody wants to bother with this high level discourse you're pumping out, look long and hard in a mirror and rethink your life.

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>>2970771
Why are you so defensive? If someone identifies as something, there needs to be a reason they identify as that specific thing rather than something else.
>>2970785
I'm just curious, I'm not out to insult anyone. It just seems silly to me to take a theological stance on something without defending it Theologically
>>2970786
Not an argument

>>2970802
You're not a practicing Jew anymore, no

>>2970805

I'm not defensive, I'm not even a theist. You're just one of a significant amount of smug assholes who spend their time trying to 'win arguments' instead of learn.

>If someone identifies as something, there needs to be a reason they identify as that specific thing rather than something else.

There doesn't need to be a reason for them to discuss in-depth it with any fuckwit who asks them.

>>2970802
....yes??? Jews can't eat pork, you ate pork, you're no longer a Jew
>>2970804
Why would you not believe in something %100

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>it doesn't matter whether Christianity is true or not, I'm a Christian because (...)

>>2970804
how is following the most basic tenets of your religion "frothing-at-the-mouth fundamentalist"?

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>>2970810
HOLY FUCK IF YOU CALL YOURSELF A JEW OR A MUSLIM OR WHATEVER THERE NEEDS TO BE A REASON

>>2970805
>not an argument

That's also not an argument, /pol/ack.

Either way, it wasn't meant to be an argument, just a facetious statement. Eating meat on Friday doesn't mean I cease being Catholic. Supporting gay marriage doesnt make me cease to be Catholic. Using a condom doesn't make me cease to be Catholic.

Until I renounce Catholicism or get excommunicated, I remain Catholic. I may not be a "good" Catholic, but I'm still Catholic.

Sorry if that rustles your bustle, friend.

>>2970804
>calls following basic shit "frothing-at-the-mouth fundamentalist"
No wonder religion in the West is dying.

>>2970811
Christians can't kill anyone.

Explain how Christians can join the military.

>>2970808
But I'm still a Jew. Just a non-practicing one. Don't wear yourself out moving those goalposts.

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>>2970822
>Catholicism says you must do X, Y, and Z
>You don't do X Y or Z
>"I'm still catholic"
What the fuck

>>2970812
Yeah that's really fucking dumb. You believe in something because you think it's true.
Though the """""christians""""" that tend to say that are mere LARPers who use Christianity as an identity and don't take it seriously at all.

>>2970830
Christians can't murder, not kill, but I don't want to get into a religious debate. As for your second statement; Jews are confusing, they're a religion a culture and an ethnicity so one could be a Jew culturally but not religiously and vice verse. But my point still stands.

>>2970832
So to be a member of a religion, you basically can never commit a sin, ever?

Is that your argument? Am I following you correctly?

>hey guys i'm catholic
>no of course i don't believe jesus was the son of god
>still catholic though sweety

>>2970767
How's autism treating ya?

>>2970841
To be a member of a religion you have to believe that that religion is the one true religion and all others are false. Being a sinner is acknowledged by the RCC and they're not teaching you can never sin, it's natural to sin; but accepting homosexuality is a big no-no in Catholicism

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>>2970856
Not an argument

>>2970841
>committing a sin =/= repeatedly and flagrantly going against the tenets of your religion

>>2970864
>implying I do

Read the Nicene Creed, heretic, which literally defines being a Catholic:

I believe in one God, the Father Almighty, Creator of heaven and earth, of all things visible and invisible; and in one Lord Jesus Christ, Son of God, the only-begotten, born of the Father before all ages. Light from light, true God from true God, begotten, not made, one in essence with the Father; through whom all things were made. For us and for our salvation, he came down from heaven and was incarnate from the Holy Spirit and the Virgin Mary, and became man. He was crucified for us under Pontius Pilate, and suffered and was buried. He rose on the third day according to the scriptures. He ascended into heaven and is seated at the right hand of the Father, and he is coming again in glory to judge the living and the dead, and his kingdom will have no end. And in the Holy Spirit, the Lord, the Creator of Life, who proceeds from the Father. Together with the Father and the Son he is worshiped and glorified; he spoke through the prophets. In one, holy, catholic, and apostolic Church. I profess one baptism for the remission of sins. I expect the resurrection of the dead and the life of the world to come.

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>because it taught me how to be a good person

>>2970830
you may have a genetic heritage associated with ancestors that were jews but you're not jewish by religion

>>2970861
Unless I guess you're the pope?

https://www.ncronline.org/news/vatican/francis-christians-must-apologize-gay-people-marginalizing-them

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>>2970868
Now tell me, Theologically, why you believe this, as opposed to another religion like Islam or Judaism?

>>2970861
acting on homosexual urges is a big no-no*
it's on the same level as non-marital sex

>>2970878
Supporting that behavior is still not ok with RCC dogma

>>2970882
well duh

>>2970876
Because I believe in the Abrahamic God, which is the same God Jews and Muslims follow.

The big difference is The Messiah, who the Jews think hasn't shown up yet and the Muslims think was Mohammed.

The answer is of course rooted in religion, which is inherently a matter of faith. Faith cannot be proven, only believed or disbelieved. I believe in it.

Maybe I'm wrong. That's the point of faith: I don't know.

>>2970886
>Supporting gay marriage doesnt make me cease to be Catholic.
I'm not sure if you were the anon who said this

>>2970874
I guess
>Pope says gay marriage is from satan
http://www.cnsnews.com/news/article/pope-francis-same-sex-marriage-move-father-lies-total-rejection-gods-law
>Pope Francis speaks against Gay adoption
http://wdtprs.com/blog/2013/12/pope-francis-shocked-by-gay-adoption-urges-bishop-to-speak-against-it-boldly/
>Compares transfag rights to nuclear arms race
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/people/pope-francis-compares-arguments-for-transgender-rights-to-nuclear-arms-race-10061223.html
>Pope Francis says that there's no salvation outside the Church
http://www.catholicherald.co.uk/commentandblogs/2013/06/03/pope-francis-is-under-attack-for-saying-that-outside-the-church-there-is-no-salvation-its-a-poke-in-the-eye-says-one-presbyterian-why-hes-wrong/
>He excommunicates an Australian priest supporting gay marriage and women clergy
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/09/24/pope-francis-excommunicates-priest-greg-reynolds_n_3983059.html
>Pope Francis is against gender theory and for traditional gender roles
http://ncronline.org/blogs/francis-chronicles/pope-francis-gender-theory-problem-not-solution
>Pope is against abortion
http://www.lifenews.com/2015/09/23/pope-francis-on-abortions-innocent-victims-its-wrong-to-look-the-other-way-or-remain-silent/
>He Encourages the use of force against ISIS
http://www.businessinsider.com/pope-francis-endorses-use-of-force-against-isis-in-iraq-2014-8
>Pope Francis is against lukewarm "faith"
http://www.catholicnewsagency.com/news/pope-off-the-cuff-to-priests-religious-indifference-makes-god-vomit-69700/
>The Pope is misquoted often
http://www.christianpost.com/buzzvine/7-times-pope-francis-was-misquoted-132679/

>>2970888
I wasn't.
And yeah, the guy is a reprobate. Haven't been following your whole conversation until now.

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>>2970887
>Because I believe in the Abrahamic God, which is the same God Jews and Muslims follow.
No. Christians believe in the Trinity. Muslims and Jews do not

As for the rest of your post; why have faith in Catholicism? Why not Islam or Judaism? Surely there is a reason you're leaning towards one over the others?

>>2970751
The vast majority couldn't even if they wanted to.

>>2970887
>which is the same God Jews and Muslims follow
Jews follow Yaldabaoth, muslims believe in a pagan moon god.

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>>2970902
Why? Just read the Bible, Talmud, and Qur'An and come to the conclusion after studying them.

>>2970906
that takes effort and time, though
much easier to just believe what your pastor, facebook or r/atheism memes tell you to believe

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>>2970709
Are you trying to spook me?

>>2970785
OP BTFO

>>2970709
Unsuccessful self-deception:
http://lesswrong.com/lw/r/no_really_ive_deceived_myself/
http://lesswrong.com/lw/s/belief_in_selfdeception/
http://lesswrong.com/lw/1f/moores_paradox/

>>2970903
>Muslims believe in a pagan god
What the fuck am I reading

>>2970919
It's even worse than that. My grandmother for example is a fervently religious Greco-Catholic. I made the mistake of talking theology with her once and I found out she essentially thinks Milton's Paradise Lost is scripture and recited a bunch of /x/-tier bullshit about how China is the Red Dragon in the Book of Revelations. I can only assume she saw this in a shitty American documentary on cable TV.

>>2970750
Do you believe in literal angels and demons? that's an obligatory part of the Catholic faith

>>2970830
Jews are a unique case because Judaism and Jews aren't the same thing. Catholic isn't an ethnicity.

>>2970811
>Why would you not believe in something %100
Why would you unquestionably follow every facet of a religious doctrine, even if parts of it are disagreeable? If I practice 99% of Christian Funadamentalists customs but don't want to stone gays, I'm no longer a Christian?

>>2971390
Allah is a retconned pagan god from the precursor religion in the area Mohammed got his seizures in.

>>2970887
No we(Muslims) still believe that Jesus was the Messiah, we also think he's gonna come back, we just believe he went up to heaven and one of his disciples was crucified instead.

>>2971760
Isn't Allah the Arabic word for the ONE TRUE God?

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>>2970805
I'm a Pentecostal Christian because its really wild and Pentecostal Women are ride or die, I also guess that a series of events have led me to believe that the Universe and Humanity couldn't have just materialized from the ether without intelligent design.

>>2970786
what he's saying is that you may be culturally catholic, but you don't fit the definition of "catholic" unless you actually believe in the religion. nothing wrong with going to church, etc simply for cultural reasons, but OP was talking about believers

>>2970709
You know what truly boggles my mind? Married people cheating.

Assuming you're married within the Christian/Jewish/Islam tradition, you're telling you'll be with each other until death do you part. And you also believe that God knows and sees everything. So why the fuck would you ever cheat? It's not as if God doesn't know and won't punish you for breaking a wove to him.

Religion has the benefit of being a voice that tells you to be a decent person.

The only other outlets we really have that say this is literature and art which no one teaches you how to really appreciate and benefit from these days.

>>2971760
If that's the case he wouldn't have claimed otherwise.

>>2971913
Pentecostals, as least in rural Ohio, from what I've seen are the most batshit insane, make up shit as you go kind of Christian.

>>2971920
Most people who claim to believe in the Abrahamic God do not. They are heavily influenced by secular ethics, think that God is more of a convenient answer for creation and death than a real omnipotent being that will actually punish them for their actions.

>>2971995
Oh yea, those really rural Pentecostals are off the rocker, the church I go to are very biblical. The only thing that would turn off anyone there for the first time is the rather "assertive" proselytizing we do, we recently got a bunch of muslim refugees move into the area and my church leaders took it as the perfect opportunity to convert them since most of them are women and children (no really).

So far the madmen have gotten couple of them to convert, some of us have our doubts but they seem pretty genuine

>>2970822
>publicly sinning and encouraging sin doesn't mean I'm no longer a Catholic
By this logic Martin Luther died a Catholic.

>>2970830
>Christians can't kill anyone.
>Explain how Christians can join the military.
Here's a catholic retort:
http://ethics.sandiego.edu/Books/Texts/Aquinas/JustWar.html

>>2971995
>as least in rural Ohio
north, south, east, or west part of the state?
[spoiler]why are there so many Ohiofags on this site? I swear I see people talk about there on every board[/spoiler]

>>2970724
It's a thing called "act of faith". Go look it up.

>>2972027
East, near West Virginia. It's where my family is from, but I'm in Columbus personally.

>Why do you practice a certain religion

It's like asking why people are Americans if they were born in America.

Chances are it's because they were taught the religion, and had warm, fuzzy feelings when they associated it with family.

>A 2006 poll published by Le Monde and Le Monde des Religions in January 2007 [...] shows that 51 percent of French respondents indicate they are Catholic, even if they never attend religious services. Another 31 percent of those polled state that they have no religious affiliation.
>Among Catholics, only 8 percent attend Mass weekly, one-third do so "occasionally", and 46 percent attend "only for baptisms, weddings, and funerals." Only 52 percent of the declared Catholics believe that the existence of God is "certain or possible."

>An October 2006 CSA poll addressed solely to Catholics established that 17% of French Catholics didn't believe in God. Among believers, most (79%) described God as a "force, energy, or spirit" and only 18% as a personal god.

>Less than a third of young children are baptised
>Although there were ~450k baptisms each year 1900-2000, there were only ~45k confirmations each year 2005-2015, in short only ~10% of the baptized get confirmed.
>only ~20% of marriages are celebrated by the church

"Cultural "catholics"" will defend this.

>>2972075
>1900-2000
1990-2000, shit.

>>2972075
Why is this a problem exactly? At least they still consider themselves Catholics.

>>2972083
I'm not a catholic but I'm assuming that baptisms and confirmations are a pretty big deal in Catholic theology, how can you not do any of that and still call yourself a Catholic?

>>2972083
>They consider themselves catholics but don't believe in God, don't attend services, don't do the most basic and necessary rituals, probably never bothered reading the Bible and don't care what the Church has to say about anything they do
Why is this good news? I mean, unless you're an atheist.

>>2972092
>but don't believe in God

But they do?

>>2972092
Why would it be good news for an atheist?
It destroys their victim narrative of "muh evil religious majority is holding us back".

>>2972092
I'm also confused that nearly 90% of the Catholics claim they AT LEAST attend services for "baptisms, weddings and funerals" but then a majority of them don't bother baptizing their children or holding their weddings in church. Apparently the Church does celebrate most funerals though, but even non-Catholics would attend funerals anyway.

>>2972099
>Only 52 percent of the declared Catholics believe that the existence of God is "certain or possible."
>17% of French Catholics didn't believe in God. Among believers, most (79%) described God as a "force, energy, or spirit"

>>2972115
>"Only" have the population literally believe in God

Careful there mate. You might sound like you're not happy until 99.9% are as zealous as yourself.

>>2972120
half the population*

>>2972041
Act of faith - I don't know why I believe in what I believe, and I don't know why I act the way I act.
See also: insanity.

>>2972120
It's not even "half of them believe in God", it's "half of them believe the existence of God is certain or possible[!]"

This doesn't even classify as zeal, what are you on about.

>>2972115
>Among believers, most (79%) described God as a "force, energy, or spirit"

it's pretty much always been like this though, only the clergy were really read in the idea of God as the monad .

>>2972128
>it's "half of them believe the existence of God is certain or possible[!]"

Which could be argued is even more zealous than simply belief.

At least the part about people thinking it is "certain".

>>2972155
What the hell is "simple belief" if it's even weaker than "I'm quite sure God exists"? That's the bare minimum you need to qualify as a theist.
Also are you purposefully missing the point that the other half of Catholics won't even state that the existence of God is "certain or possible"? Even assuming "possible" is taken to mean "likely" that's still ridiculous.

>>2970808
>What is a reformed Jew

>>2970786
You are litreally a heretic if you don't follow the dogma, m80.

>>2972261
those aren't real jews desu. reformed is so watered down you can't even call it jewish anymore

>>2972271
unless it helps your narrative, of course

>>2970709

Because for some people, the religion is tied inextricably within a framework of land, folk practices, and legend.

It's autist tier to be unironically religious based on logical arguments.

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>>2970709
>i am a (insert religion here) because (bullshit reason about culture or identity)

you retarded simpletons, religion is your tool to get to heaven in the afterlife, mosques and churches aren't fucking social clubs

>>2972027
Man u are not wrong people in ohio fucking love history and have encyclopedic knowledge when it comes to that. Lived in cincinnati for a few and had a roommate from central ohio. Smart as fuck but weird dude. Just a weird state overall cant quite figure out why.

>>2970808
You mean observant right?
Jews are Jews for as long as they live, just because the don't follow the Law doesn't mean that they suddenly aren't Jewish.

>>2970767
Those are sound reasons and the most occuring ones even though theists won't admit it.

>>2972420
Yeah but Jews are a different case, they're a culture, religion, and an ethnicity. You can't apply the same reasoning to a Catholic or a Muslim

>>2970785
A layman can test the data his biologyteacher gives on himself. The data a priest provides cant be tested so thats a false comparisation.

>>2970832
Antinomianism in a nutshell. Christianity truly is the most cucked religion.

>>2970808
>What are secular Jews?

>>2972440
Not Jews.

>>2970830
Christians may kill in the militairy

Source: a priest

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>>2972438
??? Elaborate???

>>2970709
Never. Even if Zeus/Odin/Ra/Jesus/Xenu/Vishnu came down to earth right now and declared every other religion than their own false, it will still happen.

>>2972447
Being a Jew is ethnic, by blood, not by faith alone.
Christians and Muslims dont do it that way but they still tend to flock together.

>>2970816
Not necessarily. You could feel divine guidance and inspiration. There is no easy reason why the Buddha began his journey, or Jesus began his ministry. They felt they had received revelation and went out.

>>2971913
Empty space has gravity.
Gravity pulls heat forms.
Heat causes photons
Photons cause bosons
Bosons have mass
Braaap matter is created from nothing.

So your point was? Because if that was all...

>>2970906
Do you really believe that the average Christian understands and could justify the theology of the trinity?

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>>2970786
>Thanks, random guy effectively demonstrating why my belief system is flawed, but I think I think I'll use the probability that you aren't a part of my personal circle to dodge your criticisms so that I don't have to think too hard about what I actually believe is true.

When it comes to westernization and people who go whole hog into a religious belief like Islam, one is obviously preferable to the other. Still, people who call themselves Christians/Catholics/Muslims and etc who follow a modernized version of their otherwise uncivilized religion so that they can function in civilized society are just willfully deluding themselves so they don't have to face the inevitable.

It's all just procrastination. Fence-sitting on something like organized religion v rational thinking only works so long as you can insulate your thinking and force it tooth and nail. This has worked in places like the middle-east and, in a manner of speaking, North Korea. If you live in a place that has running water, electricity, computers with access to the outside world, modern medicine and other features of modernity, the shift is inevitable - and you won't be doing it alone.

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>>2972482
If they dedicate time to study, sure.
>>2972475
Where did the empty space and gravity come from? I'm not well educated on the 'atheistic' perspective.

>>2972461
pic related are the same race as Ashkenazi, right?

>>2972488
>If they dedicate time to study, sure.
But they currently don't. Belief without any degree of understaning, visceral or logical, is inherently impossible because you cannot conceptualize the idea you claim to believe.

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>>2972509
I know, that's why there's no Christians in Ireland for example no not one. Hell, the Bible addresses that the majority of people will burn in hellfire.

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>>2972507
ffs

>>2972488
The empty space has always been there, this is why the nothing that theists hint at does not exist.

>>2972475
Where'd the gravity come from?

>>2970792
If you include dude/boy fuckers as non-muslims, are there really any Muslims?

>>2970709
>Why do you practice a certain religion
>Person gives me some theological trite unironically

I only respect people who are religious for political reasons

>>2972461
Ethbicity and "blood" arent the same thing. They may overlap but its not mandatory

>>2972275
Cant tell if your criticizing my post or not

>>2974046
>I only respect people who say one thing and do another.

>>2970902
>The vast majority couldn't even if they wanted to.
>le sheeple
Yes they could, but it's not worth talking to someone who can't even ask questions properly.
>>2971301
october is 3 months away

>feel like I should be religious
>have zero faith, religion just don't seem like it matter or is important

why

>>2971710
Not OP, but yes. OR at the very least, you're a bad christian.

Unless you're Antinomian, in which case you're golden because you have a valid theological reason.

>>2970709
I'm a christian bruv
*goes on one night stands*
fo'sho mane
*"experiments" with the same gender*
I love jeebus mane
*consciously breaks half the 10 commandments multiple times per day*
I'm going to heaven breh
*hasn't been to church in 10 years*
I totally know what I'm talking about dudebroman
*hasn't read the bible*

The average """""""christian"""""""" in the west is basically an agnostic theist who is soft pressured by society to identify as the most popular denomination in the area, even though he oftens gives 0 fucks about sandnigger scripts.

>>2970751
THEN WHY REPLY

>>2970816
he literally just addressed that, as well as totally calling you out on trying to win arguments instead of fucking listening.

>>2970802
>>2970830

Yeah and I'm a Christian, but I don't believe in the divinity of Christ, the Church, tradition, or biblical scripture and actively worship Zeus.

I'm still a Christian, just a non-practicing one. Don't wear yourself out moving those goalposts.

>>2970808
Not until you're done being unclean, you mean.
>fleish road
Yes captcha, the sinning jews will have to walk down fleisch road to find absolution.

>>2973956
From the empty space

>>2970715
fpbp
I'm a literally autistic atheist but I'm fully aware that that question is just plain annoying to people most of the time.

>>2976362
Only when you do not possess satisfactory answers and not all atheists are the same so it makes sense that you have to repeat the same thing over and over.

>>2970709
When only the theologically inclined remain.

Truthfully, most people were born in or converted when they got married (a sure sign they weren't putting those theological beliefs first, anyway).

>>2970750
>Who the fuck am I to spit in the face of (at least) 400 years of religious tradition?
A figural cuck, that's who

>>2970724
Because my parents believed in the same thing, and their parents before them.

>>2970889
Oh look everyone ignored this post
Real shocker there

>>2977553
Your ancestors have probably been farmers for hundred of years, what do you do for a living

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>>2970709
In a very deep way because you recognize a master of life and you share his goals of llife as yours. I'm Buddhist and is the nly religion atheist

>>2972394
Except that was one of their main functions.

>>2977584
4th generation railway worker.

>>2970861
>one true religion and all others are false
>one true
>others false
The fact that there are thousands upon thousands of religions, past and present, puts you in the ''false'' categorie with near 100% certainty.

>>2970767
The truth is that most people don't give a shit about the slim theological differences that exist between their specific churches. They just go to a specific church because they 'believe in god' and 'this is the church I have always gone to,' maybe with the occasional 'muh pope.'
If you really want zeal in your answers look to extreme devotees, like the Amish.

>>2974679
this, here in refugeetaly i'd say that among the under 50 about 1/10 goes to churc atleast twice a month, BUT, census shows that 82% is christian. kek

>>2970816

I'm a gnostic

Average people don't have the time nor like to go beyond the surface on any topic.

>>2970750
Man thanks for putting into words how i feel related to my faith

>>2970868
That's pretty fuckin gay man.