>Napoleon was a Captain at 22 >I'm still working the

Don't forget Caesar wept when he saw a statue of Alexander, because he thought the same thing.

>>2962987
he was born nobility, you were likely born to a middle class family whose buying power shrunk as you grew, thus dooming you to wagecuckholdry. also it's stupid to compare yourself to just anyone. compare yourself to your parents. anyone else is too different for a comparison to mean anything.

>>2962998
>he was born nobility
>Napoleon

Please /his/...

>>2963022
shut the fuck up

>>2962987
You're being too easy on yourself. At 24 he was already a Brigadier-General. At 26 he was General of the Army of Italy.

>>2963029
JUST

>>2963022
>>2963028
Technically he is correct, Napoleon was born right before his father got officially ennobled.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carlo_Buonaparte

In April 1770, the French administration created a Corsican Order of Nobility. He became an advocate of the Superior Council of Corsica on 11 December 1769 and a Substitute Procurator of the King of France in Ajaccio in October 1770. Carlo already possessed the title of a "Noble Patrician of Tuscany" (Nobile Patrizio di Toscana) since 1769 by permission of the Archbishop of Pisa due to his ancestry, and had his nobility confirmed on 13 September 1771. He then became the assessor of the Royal Jurisdiction of Ajaccio in February 1771, Deputy of the Nobility in the General States of Corsica on 13 September 1771, Member of the Council of the Twelve Nobles of Dila (Western Corsica) in May 1772, Deputy of the Nobility of Corsica at the Royal French Court in July 1777 and finally he was named Corsica's Representative to the Court of Louis XVI of France at Versailles in 1778.[8]

>>2962987
The age of heroes is dead, there are no Napoleons anymore.

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Leave Wellington to me.

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>>2963045

>>2963045
We just call them warlords and turn them into villains.

>>2963052
Trump is a jester crowned a king.

>>2962997
i read that too. good point anon

>>2963049
>>2963052
Damn, they look quite similar.

>>2963052
Reddit

>>2963057
>>2963068
They said the exact same things about Bonaparte.

>>2963074
>As far as the cyber, I agree to parts of what Secretary Clinton said. We should be better than anybody else, and perhaps we’re not. I don’t think anybody knows that it was Russia that broke into the DNC. She’s saying Russia, Russia, Russia—I don't, maybe it was. I mean, it could be Russia, but it could also be China. It could also be lots of other people. It also could be somebody sitting on their bed that weighs 400 pounds, okay?

>We came in with the Internet. We came up with the Internet. And I think Secretary Clinton and myself would agree very much, when you look at what ISIS is doing with the Internet, they’re beating us at our own game. ISIS.

>So we had to get very, very tough on cyber and cyber warfare. It is a huge problem. I have a son—he’s 10 years old. He has computers. He is so good with these computers. It’s unbelievable. The security aspect of cyber is very, very tough. And maybe, it's hardly doable. But I will say, we are not doing the job we should be doing. But that’s true throughout our whole governmental society. We have so many things that we have to do better, Lester. And certainly cyber is one of them.

Truly a bastion of wit, I haven't seen such eloquence since Napoleon's code.

>>2963074
>>2963079
Don't divert this thread into a discussion about your reddit topics, thanks.

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>>2962987
This guy became general-lieutenant at 26 and commanded the entire Czechoslovak legion of about 60-80 000 soldiers in WW1 and Russian Civil War.

>>2962987
You can still do it anon. You won't be a general who conquered all Europe but at least you can become a politician and help your country/shit on other countries, become high class so you culd have some influence, etc.

There are plenty of opportunities anon, don't stop dreaming.

>>2962987
The thing is that Napoleon only came into the power he ultimately possessed because of the french revolution. Modern states by contrast know now that you have to buy off the plebs, so no such opportunity will arise for you or anyone like you barring a serious outside context problem sort of situation.

>>2962987
To be fair, it's gotten a lot harder. The strategies that worked in the past will definitely not work in this modern era, because modern politicians are fully aware of what happened back then and have covered those back doors. Thus you have to find new ones.

In all reality there won't be single great men anymore, but you might have a chance if you have friends and allies.

>>2963055
Of course, the UK started, and over time got another handful of countries, particularly France, the US and now Germany, united under the idea that people like Napoleon shouldn't exists.

Someone will come who will make them eat their own dicks someday, and I hope I live to see it.

>>2962987
20s was the new 30s due to life expectancy.

>>2963079
THIS is the man who has the nuclear codes? Impeach now!

>>2963022
Read a book some time, Napoleon was able to get into a military academy (and get free tuition) because his father was able to prove he was from a patrician family when France integrated Corsica. Without that he never would have received such an education.

Hitler was a shitty gefreiter. Don't give up.

>Caring to be that important
Why do you tend to forget the huge responsibilities that come with those ranks?
You couldn't shitpost freely if you were trying to emulate Napoleon.
Then again, what are your lifetime wishes? If you wish to become the next world leader, or a important political figure, maybre you should have thought it better before spending your free time in this North Korean sightseeing appreciation forum.
On the other hand, if you aim for something more earthly, them you may be O.K. You may want to rethink about your shitty tho.

>>2962987
If Napoleon was born in this age he wouldnt write history. he may be a uni student playin vidya and masturbating.
you are good anon. i am sure you find it sweet to dramtize shit like this you maschoist.

>>2963628
>you are good anon. i am sure you find it sweet to dramtize shit like this you maschoist.

Ya got me

>>2962987

Not everyone can be the greatest, anon.

Do your best, and recognize/follow greatness wherever you see it.

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>>2962987
Mehmed II conquered Constantinople brought the end to Roman empire at the age of 21

I will probably be a NEET

>>2962987
The only Great Men left are probably artists. Politics and war got too convoluted and dirty to be worthy of genius anymore.

>>2963628
He'd probaly get straight to a recruitment office to whoop ass in Iraq or wherever

>>2962987
Oliver Cromwell never fired a gun and did nothing of note until he was 43.

You still got time.

>>2964163
>Politics and war got too convoluted and dirty to be worthy of genius anymore.

I think it has always been like that. Also if Trump's presidential campaign wasn't genius, I don't know what it

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>>2962998
>compare yourself to your parents

>father graduated with an engineering degree at 22
>I'm 23 and a college dropout doing wagecuckery
It's over, isn't it?

>>2963179
Eh, I doubt it. The West can't stand going to war anymore even with a 1000:1 k/d ratio, and their economies don't need that sort of disturbance.

Since WWII warlords have been mostly active in the less developed parts of the world, usually with an anticolonialist, communist and/or kleptocratic agenda, obviously the Powers That Be had every reason to hush or denounce their victories.

The closest thing to Napoleon in the developed world was probably Ataturk.

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>>2962987
Zhu Yuanzhang was born into a peasant family without any learning or culture. His birthname was actually Chongba, "Double Eight." His father's birthname was Zhu Wusi, "Five Four," his grandfather was Zhu Xinnian, "New Year." Just from the names alone you can tell the family was bottom of the barrel in terms of social and economic status.

To top it all off, flood and famine kills the whole family when the kid is in his twenties. He's all alone and has to join a monastery to support himself. A few years later the monastery runs out of food itself and kicks him out. He has to go begging for food.

So you have a twenty-four year old kid with nothing but the clothes on his back and the pan he uses to beg for food.

Sixteen years later, he's Emperor.

>>2964462
>Chinese actually named their kids with numbers

It's like poetry, it rhymes.

>>2964462
>Sixteen years later, he's Emperor.
How?
Story kinda reminds me of Hitler

>>2963079
>I said, “You don’t use steam anymore for catapult?” “No sir.” I said, “Ah, how is it working?” “Sir, not good. Not good. Doesn’t have the power. You know the steam is just brutal. You see that sucker going and steam’s going all over the place, there’s planes thrown in the air.
It sounded bad to me. Digital. They have digital. What is digital? And it’s very complicated, you have to be Albert Einstein to figure it out. And I said—and now they want to buy more aircraft carriers. I said, “What system are you going to be—” “Sir, we’re staying with digital.” I said, “No you’re not. You going to goddamned steam, the digital costs hundreds of millions of dollars more money and it’s no good.”

he's a retard

>>2962987
>he fell for the great man meme
Read Tolstoy.

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Im 23 and I don't even have a degree, a driving license or had a girlfriend yet
I find solace in the fact that I basically tried commiting suicide once when I was drunk by jumping off an abondoned pool despite there lying nails on the ground there and the shit being like 5, 6 meter high lol. I'm living off borrowed time and every day is a blessing, just here for the fun of it. And watching history unfold is great too.

And Im earning like 500 dollar a week off wacky altcoin investments anyway I'm not complaining

>>2965178
what about him, the only thing I know is that he is the author of irl logh.

>>2965233
War and Peace BTFOs the Great Man theory.

>>2965277
no it doesnt

>>2965280
Yes it does.

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>>2965333
where are your proofs

>>2965353
Read the fucking book

>>2965358
No, its about generals anways

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*invents calc at 24*

>>2963588
Altough it would be hypocritical to say that stroking your ego wouldn't feel nice. The motivation for a lot of people is that they (WE) feel, maybe naively, that we have things to bring to the table. New ideas, recycled old ideas, some skill or something that we could use to help the world be a better place.

>>2964295
Well, the west's economy is in big part dependant on some other countries staying poor. So the main scenario I picture is someone exploiting that to unite underdeveloped countries, and eventually turn them against the "first world". Or not, but just fucking it indirectly by having them develop economically, thus hindering the economies of those other countries.

Which in itself would definitely cause a war, but if we assume nobody wanted one then that's another way it could go.

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>VII. Farther-Spain 20 fell to his lot as quaestor; when there, as he was going the circuit of the province, by commission from the praetor, for the administration of justice, and had reached Gades, seeing a statue of Alexander the Great in the temple of Hercules, he sighed deeply, as if weary of his sluggish life, for having performed no memorable actions at an age 21 at which Alexander had already conquered the world. He, therefore, immediately sued for his discharge, with the view of embracing the first opportunity, which might present itself in The City, of entering upon a more exalted career. In the stillness of the night following, he dreamt that he lay with his own mother; but his confusion was relieved, and his hopes were raised to the highest pitch, by the interpreters of his dream, who expounded it as an omen that he should possess universal empire; for (6) that the mother who in his sleep he had found submissive to his embraces, was no other than the earth, the common parent of all mankind.

The lives of the Twelve Caesars

>>2965489
*dies a virgin*

>>2967133
But to be completely fair. Caesar was of noble heritage and he was at the time governor of Iberia I believe.

Most of us are retarded neets with no inherent skills.
Or at least I am.

>>2967211
guy was an equites which was the Roman parallel to the middle class

Honest question here, what's the best way to get political influence without becoming a politician or a journalist ?

>>2967270
Be an army officer in a third world country.

>>2967270
start a business

>>2963628
MASS-QOIST

>>2967270
money

>>2967270
blackmail

>>2964468
The ultra-common Japanese names Tarou/Ichirou, Jirou, Saburou, Shirou, Gorou etc literally mean "First son", "second son" etc

When they felt creative they added a prefix for a compound, like in Shintarou, Kintarou, Yuujirou, Eijirou, or a standard suffix (-maru, -kichi etc) Sometimes they dropped the -rou counter so Yuujirou became Yuuji.

It's all very depressing somehow.

>>2964468
>Octavian

>>2967270
Business. Especially if you make a huge one. The likes of Boeing, Apple, Lockheed, Amazon, Microsoft, Luxotica. These people can make a huge impact.

Keep in mind, many of the great European colonies were nothing but business ventures.

>>2967383
Better yet:
>Quintus Septimus

To be fair that's because there were powerful families going those names, although they apparently originated in the countryside to count children long ago. It was more common for female names because they didn't matter, inversely it started at 5 for males because that's apparently when they stopped giving a fuck.

>>2967405
> It was more common for female names because they didn't matter,
Yeah, fuck them.
Though I do actually like the name Prima and Quinta.
>inversely it started at 5 for males because that's apparently when they stopped giving a fuck.
It's probably when they started running out of names.
>I'll name the first kid after my father, the second after my dead brother, the third after my grandfather, etc...

>>2967411
What if the father and the dead brother's name were numbers ? Doesnt that fuck up the whole order.

>>2967419
That's how you end up with so many people named Octavius actually. It doesn't matter.

>>2967419
Yeah. Octavian wasn't the eighth born.
His sister Octavia also wasn't the eighth born.

In both cases their father was Gaius Octavius. Octavia is actually their gens.

>>2962998
I killed myself before I became a wagecuck because I couldn't handle the thought of it. My ghost now haunts 4chan hoping for people to stop bitching about their miserable lives and do something to stop being a wagecuckold.

>>2964254
No, dude.

>>2965358
If it truly defeats the great man theory in any meaningful way as a work of fiction, could you not tell us the logic behind it?

Not that anon btw

>>2967270

Be Jewish

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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Duke_Wen_of_Jin
Thanks to Hox this guy came to mind.
>NEET for most of his life
>Finally managed to become the leader of his state at age 61
>Makes his state the strongest

>>2962987
Ataturk defeated 1000 Italians with 100 Turks and 100 Libyan auxilliaries when he was 21

>>2963079
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cJRHO99ZLnQ