What makes the America such a hotbed for anti-intellectualism

media control combined with the legacy of puritanism

This also accounts for all the we wuz kangz coming from America. Have an unwarrented contempt for academics and go figure you LARP as da reel Egyptians or whatever.

>>2954211
Asians do are held back by societies impression of them which effect their professional development though so they got their own issues.

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>>2954220
most people in western culture are equally held back by society's impression of them. You dont walk around in underwear because society has deemed that taboo, you avoid saying or doing things that woud make you loom bad, only difference is the particulars of each society

>>2954211
>hot bed for anti-intellectualism
>the most powerful country to ever exist

Perhaps it's the traditional cuck school of thought that landed the rest of the country in the weakened beta positions they are currently in.

>>2954211
because americans all either live easy apathetic lives or have to work too many jobs to read a book, and seldom lie anywhere inbetween due to wage disparity. On top of that, they've consistently been the "good guys" throughout history, and they don't really have any big distinct moral crimes to reflect upon which they can't make up an excuse for. Slavery and blowing people up is about it, but slavery wasn't a US-exclusive problem, and even nuking japan didn't really stick as a hot-button moral issue since they were doing some pretty terrible shit themselves (not to mention we've bailed them out after they blew up some nuclear reactors that they'd built on fucking fault lines). You could point out that they've blown up plenty of other people, but never enough all at once to really make it a climactic hot-button thing; it's always just a "steady sin" I guess, something that won't be recognized unless you're already "me, an intellectual," so it can't be used to motivate stupid people to raise their standards. Meanwhile Germany can always go remember the holocaust if they need motivation to not be stupid tools.

> we wuz kangz
I honestly don't hear this at all really. I had one history course where the professor mentioned the erasure of black history and how they had larger civilizations in Africa, but I'm yet to see someone in person get up and say the egyptians were actually blacks. The Black Panther movie might change that, but I still kinda doubt it given all the extreme blaxploitation films we've had in the past.

>>2954311
And yet people continue to respond, even fuckin reddit has gotten over its edgy anti-Americanism.

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>>2954909
America is exceptionally shit, but it's also exceptionally great as well.

>>2954211

I don't understand it. I mean, most of them are of european descent but they may as well be from a different planet. Americans do not have any of the rationality or composed intelligence of Europeans. Europeans always seem to react calmy and rationally to events whereas Americans always go fucking crazy and reach for the most extreme option

America has a weird culture of anti-intellectualism and having a distrust in scientific and academic experts. They also have a ridiculous and frightening patriotism that is completely divorced from reality.

The rest of the world really does have incredible disdain for America, it's like they never have logical reactions to situations are live in crazy-land.

>>2955002
The French philosopherJean Baudrillarddescribed America as “hyper-real”, on the grounds that “it isa utopia that has behaved from the very beginning as though it were already achieved”.

>>2954211
>America
>anti-intellectual
We haven't reached Stalinist-purge-tier (yet)
If you want to see real anti-intellectualism look no further than any middle eastern country

>leading research in multiple fields
>anti-intellectual
makes u think...

Europeans say we are too skeptical of academia and the media, I say they are not skeptical enough.

>>2955028
there are massive political factions that refuse to accept established science about biology and physics

>there's 197 genders
>there's no biological difference between men and women
>i'm allergic to GMOs
>global warming doesn't real
>solar power is better than nuclear
>nuclear is bad bad BAD DON'T DO IT

We really are a nation of idiots.

>>2955055
Nice job picking your pet opinions and acting as though everyone else is an idiot. Out of everything you said only the first two are really stupid.

>>2955068
GMOs are good and you cannot be allergic to them
Global warming is real by everyone's best estimate
Solar power is worse than nuclear and nuclear power is excellent

Read a textbook, geez

>>2955028
>importing doctors from india et al
america's academic successes all pretty much just come from having enough economic success to literally just buy the competition, and with their current attempt at changing immigration policy, that's going to sink pretty quick

There is nothing wrong with being an anti-intellectual. It is not about being against intelligence, no more that XIXth century anti-clericalism was against religion. It is about being against the political power of the intelligentsia as a caste.

>>2955075
>breaking news: hundreds of lives lost in solar reactor meltdown

>>2955055

The problem is democracy. It forces factions to often embrace illogical combinations of positions in order to get ahead. When you have a country of 320 million with only 2 major parties, you are bound to get tons of dumb shit. Because America has vastly different cultural regions, unlike a lot of Europe, Americans often feel like their way of life is being threatened. IMO democracy simply doesn't work in a nation this large

>>2955084
>It is about being against the political power of the intelligentsia as a caste.
But that "political caste" wants nothing more than for the rest of the populace to join it. It's not a caste if everyone's in it. You're acting as though the "intellectuals" are trying to prevent people beneath them from getting educated, when the prevention of education is definitionaly what anti-intellectuals are going for.

>>2955075
>gmos
Taste like shit compared to real food and are less nutritious
>Global warming
The earths climate is constantly changing. We were suppose to be under water by now. One day the earth will go though a heating and cooling period whether humanity produced emissions or not.
>Solar power is worse than nuclear
We have no way of getting rid of nuclear waste and the risk of radiation from leaks or meltdowns is too high. Look at Japan or Belarus. Nuclear power is the worse form of power desu.

>>2955085
>what's the best spot to build this reactor?
>on a fault line, of course

The second great awakening is to blame for everything wrong with modern America

>>2955093
Last time I checked, admissions to Harvard, Yale, London School of Echonomics, the École nationale d'administration and so on was still restricted.

Did they change for open admissions and I didn't learn about it?

>>2955102
>I want everyone to be well fed
>WELL LAST I CHECKED, THE SUSHI BAR WAS CLOSED ANON
Hmm

>ignoring the fact that the fast majority of people on those campuses clearly vote leftward

>>2955096
>Taste like shit compared to real food and are less nutritious
AHAHAHA
You're an idiot

>>2955075
An America nuclear waste bunker just leaked recently. It will take Decades and lots of money cleaning it up.

Also nuclear resources are gonna drain overtime as other nations may take it up and as other countries in Africa and Asia develop and seek more power generation. Can or current nuclear resources truly support a large amount of people draining from it exponentially over time?

>>2955096
>Taste like shit compared to real food and are less nutritious
>this constitutes an allergy
typical global warming denier

>>2955109
Not an argument but continue eating your disgusting gmo slop. I feel bad that you've never eaten real food before.

>>2954214
When the first post is a pretty good post.

>>2955116
I don't even have to argue with you
99% of people don't know what a GMO is and I know you're in that category. I know you can't tell the difference. The fact that you avoid GMOs like a Muslim avoids pork amuses me. You probably don't even know that some of the foods you enjoy are GMO products.

>>2955116
>less nutritious
lmao, gonna need source there senpai

>>2955115
"Gmos give me allergies" was just anons strawman. I assumed this was obvious and that anon was attaching all those who are critical of gmos in general. Apparently you really do believe the main reason people hate gmos is that they think it gives them allergies in which case you're an idiot who couldn't even bother to know what they are opposed to.

>>2955116
Almost all foods are GMO though.

Artificial selection is, by definition, a form of genetic modification.

>>2955122 again
also it's funny that corporations play on the gmo scare to make people buy their products and avoid gmo products.

>>2955108
I think we are speaking about different things, so I will be clear here.

The increase in the political power of the intelligentsia is one of the most remarkable, and understudied, facts of the 20th century. This power is fueled not only by active participation of intellectual in politics through planning comissions and so on, but also through their cultural prestiged helping certain political movements prevail, specially socialism and communism. It's hard to see communism winning in Russia, China, or socialism becoming dominant in India, Venezuela and Brazil without the participation of intellectual movements such as the May 4th movement, or institutions like the Jawaharlal Nehru University, the Central University of Caracas and the University of São Paulo.

I consider the influence of intellectuals in politics pernicious, not only because they tend to support the disastrous policies of socialism and/or communism, but because their very mentality, though good for scientific and scholarly purposes, is rotten for the purposes of politics, their desire to change society through political action, specially being totalitarian by nature.

This is why I'm an anti-intellectual. Give me a craftsman who is single-minded about his job or even a corrupt landowning politican over an intellectual who wants to change the world and has plans already to organize everything and order everyone.

>>2955124
totally strawmanned that anon's argument. all he was doing was criticizing that other anon of being an idiot for thinking gmos cause allergies. he in no way stated that this is why people fear gmo, you fucking imbecile.

>>2955129
>I would rather elect someone incompetent, so that they can't fuck shit up
are you seeing it yet?

>>2955125
Whoa bro. Let's just throw out all meaningful understandings of what gmo is because in some nonsensical way all selective breeding is a "genetically modified organism".

>>2955127
t.monsanto.

>>2955139
Odds are, if it's grown for food, humans have tinkered with the genetic code.

If you can show me a qualitative difference in the organisms produced by gene splicing and the organisms produced by breeding, I'll be happy to admit defeat.

>>2955138
This is not really about being competent, it's about not having the desire to radically change society through political action using an utopian future as justificiation.

>>2955124
>you really do believe the main reason people hate gmos is that they think it gives them allergies
citation needed

>>2955145
>All intellectuals are utopian ideologues

>>2955138

Not him but I think Trump's incompetency is actually doing wonders, we are starting to see a resurgence in states making their own decisions and trust in the government is eroding. Because states and communities have no faith in Trump, they are picking up the slack and I believe we will see things actually get pretty good

>>2955148
If central planning and technocracy are the devil, why are the Chinese kicking our asses?

>>2955147
Maybe I'm jaded because I live in a country where this is unironically true.

>>2955129
>the May 4th movement
Communism was not even close to the main purpose of the May 4th movement. One of the catch term for the movement was Chen Duxiu's call for "Mr. Democracy and Mr. Science" replacing older confucian traditions, for god's sake. It was no modernist but far from communist in its content.

>>2955149
Central planning and technocracy aren't bad because they don't work, they are bad on a moral sense.

>>2955149

Their quality of life is horrendous, millions of chinese are extremely poor and many of them are practically slaves

>>2955148
*sniffs*

I actually don't disagree, but I don't think it'll be worth the consequences of having elected him.

>>2955142
go outside your basement into a supermarket and you'll see that many products are labeled "non-gmo". the only reason they say that is because they play on people's irrational fear of gmo that they absorbed from the media sensationalism. you're a sucker

>>2955161
t.Monsanto

>>2955092
>IMO democracy simply doesn't work in a nation this large
You just outlined the problems but, instead of proposing a reform of the party system-- perhaps in the direction of proportional representation-- you go the other way and call for more oligarchy or authoritarianism...

> It forces factions to often embrace illogical combinations of positions in order to get ahead
agreed. to make matters worse, the two party pushes people to choose one side or the other, and the side chosen forces one to

>>2955144
Not until the 1980s did people artificially introduce genes into plants. Before that it was selective breeding.

>>2955174
cont.
and the side chosen makes people unquestioningly adopt the whole party program as though it were gospel, even though these programs have basis in widely disparate interests and values.

>>2955139
>whoa bro, let's just throw out all of the scientific definitions of what a GMO is and accept my fallacious definition of what a GMO is so that I'll be right and you'll be wrong

>>2955171
not an argument

>>2955179
I know, I'm asking if there's any qualitative difference in the finished product.

>>2955174

Saying that I don't like democracy doesn't mean I'm authoritarian.

>>2955186
You'd never be able to mix two unrelated organism together naturally. Obviously whatever the product is modified for is the qualitative difference.

>>2955084
there's a fine line between anti-intellectualism and disdain for intellect, just like anti-clericalism, despite my own support of it, likely aided the decline of religiosity in the west. I agree with you the intelligentsia has a variety of flaws, but I think you overestimate their power. The reason they're called the "ivory tower" doesn't only denote their elitism, but their disconnect from the concerns of people in the working world. You can interpret this as "hair-brained intellectuals push an agenda on the world" but the reality for a majority of academics is their seclusion within their specialty for need of understanding their subject and because the pressures of publishing and teaching cut them off from society.

>>2955201
ever heard of horizontal gene transfer, brainlet? it's ubiquitous among bacteria

>>2955216
>bacteria
>plants
Pick one.

>>2955218
irrelevant goal posting. you said organisms, f*ggot. and if you must insist, archaea, protists and a variety of plants also practice it

>>2955093
>implying I want to be part of the champagne socialist intelligentsia circlejerk

>>2955227
>irrelevant goal posting. you said organisms, f*ggot.

Not him, but seeing as the entire discussion branched off of plants it's not really fucking goalpost shifting.

>>2955235
it's still irrelevant. plants were used as an example by that anon, but it goes without saying that gmo is not exlusively used on plants, but on animals, fungi, protists and bateria as well.

>>2955227
Is it, anon? We were clearly talking about foodstuff. You're just being pedantic. Does our foodstuff do it? Just because bacteria does it has no barring on the various plants we consume.

>>2955235
He knows he's wrong and a qualitative difference exist between gmos and non-gmo food but he's too stubborn to admit it. He'll try dragging it on as long as he can.

>>2955186
Well, GMO companies fuck the farmers hard. They sue the shit out ofyou if they find out you stored even a one seed from their GMO strain. Also many GMOs are invasive species because most of their natural killers are neutered by them being GMOs. For me it's not so much about the quality of the food but the scumminess of the corporations that produce the GMOs and theur effect on the ecosystem.

>>2955248
You didn't read the rest of that post. I stated that bacteria are not the only organisms to do gene transfer. And bacteria and protists, as it happens, are critical to the sustenance of plant and animal life in a many ways. Most relevant to this discussion, animals consume these very organisms that swap genes with each other quite randomly across species and it hasn't destroyed these species.

>>2955261
Oh and if you buy Monsanto GMO corn strain XXX-Fuck the Farmer(tm) you also have to buy their pesticides (which are not exactly the most healthiest ones for consumers). If you don't, Monsanto lawyers knock on the door again for a breach of contract.

>>2954211
The Jews have been trying too destroy us from the inside out for decades.

>>2955256
Also, do you even know what qualitative means?? Because it seems to me that you aren't using it in the proper sense of the word.

>>2955281
IThe qualitative difference of gmo produce from other produce is their creation and whatever trait they've been modified to posse.

>>2955096
Actually blind taste tests of GMOs have proven that people find them to be tastier. They are also just as nutritious. Not everything is bad just because they added science to it

>>2955248
protists, fungi and bacteria can be food stuff and as i said even in the other post: even if they aren't they are necessary for the sustenance of the plants and animals we do eat. Do you also know that the basic unit of multicellular animals such as us were the product of the incorporation of bacteria in to eukaryotic cells hundreds of millions of years ago? Further, it's irrelevant whether we're talking about "real" foodstuffs or not. The fact of the matter is that a category of organisms survives, and even thrives, despite their intermingling of genes across species. And besides that, sexual reproduction among animals is literally a form of genetic modification, as the process of meiosis used to create sex cells involves the process of "crossing over" and random mutation which is a form of genetic modification, just without humans doing it with their own hand.

>>2955289
that doesn't mean that the chemical company can then go about fucking every farmer in the ass hard.

Oh by the way Monsanto sues the shit out of you if you grow normal corn and they find out that the neighbouring farm's GMO strain got in your field by accident.

>>2955289
GMO's made my penis bigger. Fuck GMO's

>>2955289
Selectively breeding crops isn't any less "science" than artificially splicing alien genes into crops is science. Science is only a methodology despite what plebs and normies think.

>>2955285
yes, but you haven't yet even proven that there is a qualitative difference between the GMO and the non-GMO organism. It's possible that there the genes inserted don't change texture or taste or, if they do, the change is so trivial that it's irrelevant.

>>2955301
That's a myth and you know it.

>>2955199
thats why i also said oligarchy, senpai.

>>2955318
The Supreme Court of Canada had issued a similar decision in Monsanto Canada Inc. v. Schmeiser (2004). That case concerned Percy Schmeiser, who claimed to have discovered that some canola growing on his farm in 1997 was Roundup resistant. Schmeiser harvested the seed from the Roundup resistant plants, and planted the seed in 1998. Monsanto sued Schmeiser for patent infringement for the 1998 planting. Schmeiser claimed that because the 1997 plants grew from seed that was pollinated with pollen blown into his field from neighboring fields, he owned the harvest and was entitled to do with it whatever he wished, including saving the seeds from the 1997 harvest and planting them in 1998. The initial Canadian Federal Court rejected Schmeiser's defense and held for Monsanto, finding that in 1998 Schmeiser had intentionally planted the seeds he had harvested from the wind-seeded crops in 1997, and so patent infringement had indeed occurred.
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>>2954361
I know I'm late to the party, but good post. Do you really think guilt is necessary for reflection, though? Or are you saying it's a compound of issues?

>>2955342
not him but better guilt then denialism and revisionism of supposed innocence. Look at Germany vs Italy.

>>2954211
Because it's a bug country so people will eventually live in small communities + Christianity

>>2955342
>Do you really think guilt is necessary for reflection, though? Or are you saying it's a compound of issues?
As far as what I said in that post specifically? I never specified, all I said was that it's a tool america doesn't have whereas other countries do. Though sometimes I'm convinced that the only way to understand suffering is to be made to suffer, which sounds like a very supervillainish thing to say, but I couldn't imagine Deckard from Blade Runner becoming who he became in the end if it weren't for the scene where Roy hunts him down. Today someone tried to make me explain what it felt like to touch an electric fence, but I told them that all the continental philosophy in the world couldn't compare to just touching the fucking fence.

>>2955410
Honestly, I couldn't agree more, I was just trying to get a read on the response.

>>2955492
Having never seen Blade Runner I will accept your insight for what it is; I can somewhat agree with the sentiment of what you are saying, however.

>>2955550
>I will accept your insight for what it is
Thanks, though bear in mind that the last person who took my advice was electrocuted shortly afterwards.

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>>2955084

> It is about being against the political power of the intelligentsia as a caste.

And where does this caste actually rule?

>>2955124

> Apparently you really do believe the main reason people hate gmos is that they think it gives them allergies in which case you're an idiot who couldn't even bother to know what they are opposed to.

All opposition to GMOs goes down to either Mad Science cliches, xenophobia in non-Western cases, pandering to primitive religion, Ecoshieet, and populist talking points (muh farmers).

>>2955159

The Chinese are making inroads into upgrading humanity through genetics that America won't.

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>>2955261

>Mad Science cliches
>muh farmers
>Ecoshieet

See what I mean?

>>2955093
>Intelligentsia thinking the majority of the population is ever going to be able to join it
Not very intelligent then I suppose. Popular movements were a mistake

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>>2954211
Because half of our country is backwards rural hillbillies.

>>2955763
Move to china then, faggot.

Why do lazy /int/ shitposting threads end up on /his/?

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Once the West inevitably gets BTFO'ed this century, which region will become the economic leader of the world?

>>2956257
what about the over half tho

>>2956257

>Privileged people favor elitist candidate.

>>2954991
its a 3rd world country in a 1st world economy

>>2956628

> The "Man of the People" is the billionaire son of a millionaire, who got over $100 million in inheritance and startup money, who flies home after every campaign day in his private jet to sleep in his own bed.

> The elitist is the daughter of a small business owner and a home-maker, who married a man raised by a single mother.

Fucking logic, how do they work?

>>2954218

Contempt for academics is not unwarranted. They only get their position through brownnosing and leeching public funding. Everything they do can be better done by the private market.

>>2956705

The populist owns casinos and offers people services they want. The elitist only got to her position because she got fucked by the Governor of Arkansas who would later become President. Same shit with Jeb Bush, he only got to his position because he came out of the right cunt.

Pr*testantism plus unbridled capitalism.

>>2956543

After THIS century? Sub Sahara Africa or South Asia.

>>2956718
But that same logic can be applied to Trump. He'd be a broke vacuum cleaner salesman if he wasn't born into massive wealth and connections. Hillary rose from near nothing in a time when women were expected to be housewives. She would have gotten to the top with or without Bill, it probably hurt her more then it helped her.

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Why is the U.S. so contrarian?

>>2954211
Retard culture I mean DUDE HOLLYWOOD AND FOOTBALL LMAO.

>>2956732

>He'd be a broke vacuum cleaner salesman if he wasn't born into massive wealth and connections.

No, he'd just be a millionaire out of Jersey instead of a billionaire out of Manhattan. Real estate speculation is the poor man's financial investment, it only requires talent (in terms of bullshitting with planners, contractors, loan officers, etc) to break seven figures. Even my parents, who still cannot speak English for shit, made a few million by flipping homes. Trump is that but on a much larger scale.

>Hillary rose from near nothing in a time when women were expected to be housewives

Hilary IS nothing. She herself never ever did anything of importance before her husband got elected President. Her time as NY's Senator was uneventful and as Secretary of State she helped inadvertently create ISIS (although most of the blame goes to a man, former President Obama, on this one too). Sarah Palin, Wendy Davis, and Kay Ives all have a greater claim to their careers than Hilary does.

That said, a much better example for you is Condoleezza Rice, who was a nigger born into segregationist Alabama yet would fight to become Stanford Provost before becoming the National Security Advisor and Secretary of State. That took real effort, and she did it on her own without needing to use her cunt.

>>2955148
>that feel when Commiefornia starts advocating states rights

>>2956743

Because we feel like it. But really it's ironic that Trump pulled out of the Paris Accords, because he himself will go down as the greenest President in US history once he allows highways to be tolled. This is not a small thing for America, because it'll force better land planning and mass transit use, nuking the amount of automobile miles driven and thus dropping yearly co2 emissions. Even better, there's still a budget savings.

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>>2956770

>temporarily embarrassed millionaires

>>2956770

> Real estate speculation is the poor man's financial investment

It does need one thing, which is capital. Getting enough capital to do real-estate is the hard part.

> Hilary IS nothing

She had a sterling career before Bill Clinton won governorship. Up to that point, she was the more successful one in the household, kind of like Michelle Obama. Then she had to put her own career aside to campaign and be first lady of Arkansas.

There's plenty of thing to hate about Hillary Clinton, like her pandering, flip-flops, shady dealings, and arrogance, but being nothing more than a vagina with ambition is not one of them.

>>2956770
To say that obama or even shillary created isis is retarded and jist shows how much you hang on trumps every word, despite your admitting he bullshits all tue time

>>2956782

> once he allows highways to be tolled

Land of the free motherfucker. If any freeways get turned into toll roads, the toll stations are likely to be firebombed and the contractors lynched.

>>2956791

>Getting enough capital to do real-estate is the hard part.

A full time mcjob pays for a home in most parts of the country. From there rents allow for the purchasing of more property. It snowballs from there.

>but being nothing more than a vagina with ambition is not one of them.

That's what she has been since 1992 (although I'll admit this doesn't make her special, see Elaine Chao). She could have chosen to retire in 2013, instead of destroying her party.

>>2956782
>Cause we feel like it.
In other words for no reason at all. Simply epic XDD

>But really...
All speculative nonsense on your part to try to show that "the fuhrer knows best he has a keikaku you dont know about!" when in fact hes an idiot who has no respect for the environment, which he has already shown through his many antienvironlental actions.

>>2956796

Texas and Florida have already proven the viability of modern toll roads (as in ones that weren't legacy'd in when the Interstate system was created in 1956), the model will be expanded upon as inland states want to generate cash off the commerce that flows through them while blue states want to cut congestion.

It's inevitable at this point. Republicans want a smaller highway budget, Democrats want better land use. Tolls are a means to an end.

>>2956793

keyword: inadvertent

Also most of the blame goes onto Obama, Hilary is a globalist cunt shit but she at least knew that something comparable to ISIS would form if the US did not have boots on the ground in Syria. Obama choose not to do that, for better or worse.

>>2956805

>when in fact hes an idiot who has no respect for the environment, which he has already shown through his many antienvironlental actions.

I didn't claim he cares for the environment, just that he would manage to adhere to the Paris Accords (which concerns itself with Co2 emissions not things like deepsea mining pollution) despite withdrawing from it.

>>2956808
Thats not creating ISIS idiot. The US isnt some omnipotent power that can put out all the conflicts on thos earth. ISIS arose as a direct consequence of local factors such as the failure of arab spring and gulf state funding. The reason of isis's spread to Iraq was because Bush severely destabilized that country by invading it. None of this had anything to do with Obama

>>2956802

> A full time mcjob pays for a home in most parts of the country

7.25*40*50=$14,500 from a Mcjob

Say you are a hard worker, and you get a part time Mcjob as well that adds $7,250

If you pay no taxes whatsoever, you make $21,750 per year. Minus food, minus electricity, minus transportation. No bank will lend you money to buy a house that you can use to buy a house that lets you live in it and still rent some for income.

The fact that you think a person can afford a house with a Mcjobs means you've never had to pay for your own housing, or your own bills, or spend your own money on anything except pornography, vidya, and condoms.

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>>2954211
>What makes the America such a hotbed for anti-intellectualism
Are you expecting something else from a hotbed of fluid genders lunacy and "sex revolution"?? You're crazy Anon.

This a country who is systematically forcing tranny toilet policy and lgbt marriage into the entire the world, may I remind you.

>>2956820

>No bank will lend you money to buy a house that you can use to buy a house that lets you live in it and still rent some for income.

Six years of work is about $84k which is enough for a downpayment on a shitty home in a shitty place, but is better than nothing. The deal only get sweeter from there.

>The fact that you think a person can afford a house with a Mcjobs means you've never had to pay for your own housing, or your own bills

protip: there is life outside major metropolises. Not everyone can afford a house in Palo Alto or Brookyln, but that doesn't mean they have to settle being some landlord's bitch for the rest of their lives. Even Newark has affordable homes and it's less than 20 minutes from NYC.

>>2956873

>This a country who is systematically forcing tranny toilet policy and lgbt marriage into the entire the world, may I remind you.

All of that shit comes from Europe where it's been law for at least a decade now, mostly because saying that toilet policy is stupid is wrongthink and hate speech. It's even illegal to call a woman a stuck up bitch in Europe because that's misogynistic.

>>2956932
Right, because during those 6 years you can just save up and not need to pay for food, rent, gas, or anything else. All those payments only come once you feel like paying for them.

>>2955301
>Oh by the way Monsanto sues the shit out of you if you grow normal corn and they find out that the neighbouring farm's GMO strain got in your field by accident.

The one case of this actually happening, the farmer did this on purpose and his entire field consisted of GMO corn.

>>2954214
fpbp

Also the repeal of the fairness doctrine fucked american news cycles.

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>>2954211
>>The difference between a phonograph and the human voice is that the phonograph must sing the song which is stamped upon it. Now there are days--I suspect the vast majority of them in most of our lives--when we grind out the thing that is stamped upon us. It may be the governing of a city, or teaching school, or running a business. We do not get out of bed in the morning because we are eager for the day; something external--we often call it our duty--throws off the bed-clothes, complains that the shaving water isn't hot, puts us into the subway and lands us at our office in season for punching the time-check. We revolve with the business for three or four hours, signing letters, answering telephones, checking up lists, and perhaps towards twelve o'clock the prospect of lunch puts a touch of romance upon life. Then because our days are so unutterably the same, we turn to the newspapers, we go to the magazines and read only the "stuff with punch," we seek out a "show" and drive serious playwrights into the poorhouse.

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>>2956873
The Nordic Protestant nations were the first to legalize homosexual marriage beginning in the 1990s while large swaths of the USA resisted until it was forced upon them by courts.
This was America before the court decision.

>>2956955
Plus god forbid you or someone in your family gets sick or injured in those six years, or you have car trouble, or there's some kind of disaster.

>>2956713
>Everything they do can be better done by the private market.
That's retarded. Their findings would typically reflect whatever made more money for their patrons leaving consumers having to choose between competing published lies, exagerations or truths with no guarantee the studies and research weren't partisan.

>>2957032
Just fucking stop. The feds guarantee rights based on marriage, they can't apply those rights unevenly. You don't understand the legality of this issue. I agree that federal courts have taken a dangerous, activist stance and cause damage to our stability, but it's nonsense to trot out this tired gay-marriage shit. You don't have to perform a wedding or bake a cake, stop crying. If those States had their way I'm sure not being a Christian would be illegal, along with all kinds of shit that tosses the Constitution out the window.

>>2956817
>The US isnt some omnipotent power that can put out all the conflicts on thos earth.
Aren't you cunts always going on about how the USA can take on every country in the world at the same time?

>>2957048
>You don't have to perform a wedding or bake a cake
Except you do

>>2956731

>A Nigger or Pajeet going Well Be Kangz

>>2956955

Even at $40k you can still buy a home in many parts of the country. Face it, you're just wrong.

>>2957039

high risk high reward

>>2957076
No you don't. That's why Trump is president now. However, trying to argue that gay people shouldn't have the same rights as straight people is asinine.

>>2957110
>high risk high reward

Yeah unfortunately people can't afford to take high risks when they're living paycheck to paycheck. To the wealthy an investment not paying off is a minor setback that means they can't afford as many luxuries as they would otherwise have. The poor an investment not paying off means not being able to afford food or being out on the street.

This is the problem with the wealthy in this country, they literally cannot comprehend what it's like to be poor.

>>2957048
What the fuck are you even trying to say?

>>2957138
It's really simple. The Constitution required any right extended by the government to be extended equally. They can't give you tax breaks for being married and also decide who can and can't get married. It creates a priveleged class, which the U.S.A. is set up to prevent.

>>2957121
>you have a "right" to force private conglomerates to perform services for you
Liberalism was a mistake.

>>2954218
It's academics who encourage Afrocentric revisionism in the first place.

>>2955093
> You're acting as though the "intellectuals" are trying to prevent people beneath them from getting educated, when the prevention of education is definitionaly what anti-intellectuals are going for.

The intellectual caste only wants people to be "educated" to serve in their new priesthood. It has nothing to do with actually expanding knowledge.

america is bad for many reasons, but idk really know how many of those reasons are unique to it. As for philistines, are Europeans really any better? Like I'm the guy who makes anti-america threads on pol, but now that I'm not the one making the thread, i sort of feel like i have an obligation to defend us. What is so intellectual about the average European? this view of Euroepans as 'intellectuals' is a reputation garnered from past achievements, but that the average European has nowadays ceased to demonstrate. Everyone is an American these days. also, 50% of our population is shitskins whose tastes are extremely crass. the whites follow the lead of the shitskins.

>>2957155

The guy you responded to is probably an ancap/constitutionalist libertarian.

I hate the word "liberal"/"liberalism", because it's got so many different and sometimes contradictory definitions.

There's Liberal Democracy (the fucking best), Economic Liberalism (great in moderation), social liberalism (prone to being taken too far), European Liberals, American Liberals. All of them represent pretty different ideas.

Then brainlets state "I hate liberalism" because they don't like one concept/idea that has the word "liberal" in it.

>>2955148

As a Massachusetts citizen, I can't fucking wait when the successful states cut lose the deadbeat states who keep trying to take our industry from us with 'trickle-down economics' bullshit.

Massachusetts has a wonderful education system, unlike much of the country.

>>2957083
>pajeets and niggers will always remain bad.
reminder that india was supposed to [colapse] after 1960

>>2957206

Well it's not going to work because the leech states have senators.

States rights when it comes to taking money from the Feds, Federal primacy when it comes to pork going into their states.

>>2957146
>The Constitution required any right extended by the government to be extended equally.
Except for gun-rights obviously.
:^)

>>2957225
No, that's the opposite of what it says. Sorry about your strawman.

>>2957210

>t. Pajeet or Nigger

>>2957157

>implying a majority of academics who specialize in relevant fields accept Afrocentric garbage about Niggers being Egyptians or Hebrews

>Implying Selected Amerifats like you don't accuse them of being in a conspiracy against Shaniqua or the Bible Belt

>>2957155
>marriage MUST be performed by a priest
>having a right to be legally married is the same as a legal REQUIREMENT for priests to marry you
Damn, fucking dumbasses on this board.

>>2957146
>The Constitution required any right extended by the government to be extended equally.
Except fags always have right to marry, to any "opposite sex" partners like every other normal people. What they want is exactly a right or "privilege" which normal people usually don't want and don't need. So no thanks.

I think I will keep opposing it until the day I die.

>>2956718
>implying
Clinton made her husband president, she was always more politically active and ambitious than him.

>>2957216

The Civil War was a mistake.

>>2955098
This, the repeal of the fairness in media doctrine, the fucked political system, and McCarthyism.

>>2955116
Found the europoor

>>2957431

Could be a mud (nigger, pajeet...)

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>>2955550
>having never seen Blade Runner

>>2957189
I hate all forms of liberalism equally.

>>2957261
>marrige must be preformed by a priest
nigger what
i could legally preform a marriage if i had the right paperwork but that doesnt require you to be a priest

>>2959171

Just a Christcuck with a victim complex.

Reminder that Amerifats were bright enough to elect a man who doesn't know the difference between Sunni and Shia (Dubya Junior), a man who attended a church with radicals in it who spews Lefty talking points (Obama), and Donald Trump (seriously).

>>2957187
>What is so intellectual about the average European?
many times this desu. I've been to europe plenty and I can tell you that most europeans like most americans are retarded plebs.

very simply put, america is more religious, and as result, more politically conservative

socially they're actually more liberal than Europe, put these together and you get a weird country

>>2960680

>mad muslims version 1 vs. mad muslims version 2, who gives a fuck?
>omg he listened to someone exercising his freedom of speech
>Genius businessman

All 3 of these men are worth a thousand times more than you

>>2954211
It's the only thing keeping the masses from taking up arms and overthrowing the oligarchy.
Even the founding fathers feared true democracy, and if the common people of the late 1700s were anything like they are today I totally understand.

>>2954345
>You dont walk around in underwear because society has deemed that taboo
You ever been to a beach?
You don't walk around in underwear because it's fucking cold in most of the country for a good part of each year.

>>2954211
>mormonism
>objectivism
>scientology
>nation of islam

What makes Americans so utterly insane ideologically? All their homebrew is shit.

>>2960823
Utilitarianism is good.

>>2960823

I don't know about scientology and objectivism but Mormonism and NOI are just We Wuz for mongrel trash.

>>2960723
>genius businessman
when will this meme end? it's like /pol/ takes his character on the Apprentice at face value

>>2960747
>You ever been to a beach?

You ever studied climate and geography?

There are numerous countries where it is suitably warm enough to wander around butt-naked or in just underwear for significant periods of the year and I'm not talking middle eastern either.

>>2960712

> america is more religious

Or just more primitive in theology.