ITT egregious historical inaccuracies (and general retardation)

>khopesh
>in the 1st century BC
lmao

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>>2947566
A better depiction of a Hellenistic occupying force would be to depict them as overly clean, snooty and covered in shiny shit.

Galatian mercenaries flaunting their wealth with their clothing and armour. Bright colours, metal trinkets, you name it.
Definitely no frayed, unwashed clothing. No self-respecting occupying force would stoop to such levels, they can use their subjects to clean that shit for them.

For the inaccuracy to be egregious does that mean it has to lack a valid excuse? For example, the vast majority of portrayals of fire arrows in films are inaccurate - but since they're used because they look cool it doesn't generally trigger me.

>>2947594
For that matter
>Corinthian helmets
>in the first century BC

>>2947663
Yeah, think like the bondage armor on the Assassin's Creed guys.

It's halfway understandable in movies where giving everyone authentic armour might cost too much, but in a video game it's unforgivable.

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>>2947673
The minor one that triggers my autism is getting the pre-1801 Union Jack wrong in films. I know it's a minor detail, but it's really not that hard to get right.

Pic related, it's the flag on Barbossa's ship in the shitty last pirates film - set in the mid 18th century.

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>>2947697
Also - portrayals of ancient cities (notably Rome) as consisting entirely of glaringly white marble. Honorable mention to HBO's Rome for not doing this.

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The Last Kingdom.

Apparently Anglo-Saxon nobles dressed themselves in pale rags and didn't wash their faces.

>>2947750
At least it not that gay "King Arthur" movie with Keira Knightly, where the Saxons are literally Nazis and talk about muh pure bloodline and genociding.

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>>2947750
The portrayal of Saxons warriors in this show and in Vikings was awful as well.

>>2947594
For that matter:
>kopesh
>two handed
>steel
For fuck's sake.

>>2947765
Isn't that helmet literal renaissance helmet from Vatican or somewhere in Central Italy?

>>2947776
Not my area of expertise, so I'm not sure on the exact origin of the helmet, but it definitely does look like they borrowed the Wessex uniforms from a Renaissance period film.

That's without even mentioning the fact that Wessex and Mercia have uniformed regular armies in the show.

>>2947765
what the fuck, that's a fucking renaissance burgonet

The only movie which I have watched and had accurate clothing was Alatriste and that's a poor movie itself.

>>2947776
Yes. It could be renaissance English though. Italian helmet styles were everywhere.

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remember black, Christian, 4th century AD centurion Hannibal?

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>>2947786
Yeah, and they all have it.

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>>2947794

>>2947765
>>2947794
For Christ's sake, that's right up there in the "not even fucking trying" department

>>2947794
Well what else do you expect from the ancient aliens and Hitler channel?

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>>2947794
>>2947765

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>>2947765

Not to mention making the Saxons some kind of cowardly, weak and peaceful people when they were pretty much the same people.

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>>2947794
You could buy a period-appropriate helmet for like 45 quid on The Knight Shop, it's not like these things are hard to get a hold of. In fact I would've thought that a renaissance helmet would be more expensive to make.

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According to Ryse Son of Rome, the Celts were basically a cross between north american natives and Vikings, and had Germanic names.

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>>2947820
really makes you think

>>2947819
I'd imagine these helmets were already lying around from a previous film/TV show. It's like portrayals of generic barbarians in any ancient film - there must be some big pile of furs and leather bits lying around that extras are just told to pull costumes from.

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>>2947820
And who could forget how much the Romans loved art deco

>>2947816
I think it's generally more because these shows (and in the case of the Last Kingdom - the Bernard Cornwall books) do that to differentiate the pagans and Christians, rather than Saxons and Danes.

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>>2947833
>that pitiful shield

>>2947793
wait what

is this real

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>>2947833
What is this, a shield for ants?

>>2947820

remember the movie "The Eagle" where the Picts are literally Australian Abbos?

>>2947566
What time period is this Assassin's Creed game meant to take place in?
From the picture it could be pretty much any generic ahistorical ancient period.

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>>2947880
Look like white people dressed as
stereotypical injuns to me.
>>2947891
Ptolemaic Egypt around the time of Cleopatra's ascension to the throne.

>>2947820

I get that the artists really like to be creative, but if you want that make a fucking fantasy game Jesus Christ.

>>2947833

>Super heavy iron greaves
>exposed toes

Wow good job

>>2947898
Wut? Are those enemies meant to represent everything between celts, romans, crows, hellenes and the gaypolice? How can a game be this inaccurate and waste such a good period?

>>2947906
You just say the game was "inspired by history" and you're clear.

>>2947906
As I said in the OP, I'm assuming they're supposed to be Galatians because of the (poor excuse for) pants and the random strips of tartan

>>2947566
They are making a Fallout New Vegas sequel?

>>2947765
"History" Channel's Vikings has the worst wardrobe and battle scenes.

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>>2947836
>do that to differentiate the pagans and Christians, rather than Saxons and Danes.

I mean i understand that, but the levels Vikings went is absolutely disgusting, i stopped watching after the Saxons massacred the peaceful pagan Viking women and children, there was literally a close up of kid running away and getting shot with an arrow, shitting on Christianity and making the Christians weak, pathetic, emasculated cowards who pick on women and children is the fucking norm nowadays and its pissing me off.

As for the armor, they could save tons by being historically accurate, since those Saxon militias the Vikings attack wore no armor apart from maybe a helmet, and a shield. But the plebs would think its a documentary.

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>>2947566
AC1 had reasonably accurate armor. What happened since then?

>>2947936
Made me giggle

>>2947936
Holy fucking hell that would've been an amazing game. Fallout New Vegas set in Egypt with an ancient period meets post-apocalypse theme in dresses.

>>2947566
Then again, we have no clue if those are actual Ptolemaic soldiers. They could just be scavengers, bandits, or tribesmen who stole the helmets from dead ones (considering the horns strapped to the helmets). Maybe they're just mercenaries or something. It's too early to make a call on it, considering how we have next-to-no info on this beyond a trailer and 5 minutes of gameplay.

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Well-made armor for a proud descendant of the Phoenicians.

>>2947793
I'm proud to say I'm the one who first noticed it.

>>2947673
>unforgivable

Unless the purpose of the game is not to act as a history lesson but to create an enjoyable game with an aesthetic they like.

General point for the thread: an error is when you get something wrong because you didn't know what was right. A design choice is not an historical error.

>>2947948
Once again, probably a deliberate differentiating choice. Making the Saxons uniformly dressed and armoured gives you that evil empire vibe - or perhaps was intended to make them appear more 'civilised' than the Vikings? The whole thing is really just a dumb play on the noble savage trope.

>>2947987
There's nothing cool about Van Darkholme in a Corinthian helmet

What really annoys me too is that many people inevitably will think these things are historically accurate. I'm speaking from experience here.

>>2947987
OP said 'egregious historical inaccuracies', not historical errors. We discussed this earlier in the thread, it's an inaccuracy with no/very weak justification.

Take the first Pirates of the Caribbean - historical inaccurate as fuck, but totally forgivable because they were obviously just trying to create a general piratey theme and drawing on a lot of elements from the Pirate mythos and well-known aspects of that period. An egregious inaccuracy in that case might be the Black Pearl being steam powered without explanation.

>>2947994
I do wonder if there's an argument to be made that it doesn't matter if it gets people interested in history?

I know my interest in history probably started when I played Age of Empires as a kid, and the representation of the various civilisations in that game was far from accurate. It still acted as a launching pad for my interest though.

Though I guess Ubisoft can't really plead the same tech limitations and has a fuckton more resources than the studio that made AoE back in the day.

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>>2947989
Does this fill either of those criteria?
It doesn't look badass, it doesn't look sophisticated, it doesn't have an "evil empire" vibe either.
It only succeeds in looking god damn retarded.

>>2948015
I'm not justifying their decisions or saying they nailed the execution, just offering explanations of why they maybe made them. Ultimately, I don't know, but it's a pretty safe bet that a lot of it comes down to budget and historical advisors not being allowed into the wardrobe department.

Maybe it just comes down to them wanting to offer what they think people "think" Saxons would look like? That's pretty much the reason Lorica Segmenticata is so ubiquitous in portrayals of Romans.

>>2948012
AoE doesn't have actively fantastical designs. It just has generic designs that everyone uses.

>>2947833
That scutum looks small like my penis

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>>2948015
Meanwhile historical Anglo-Saxon armours were pretty intimidating

>>2947566

I hate grim dark shit historical shit.

It's like everything that happened before the present day was done by absolutely filthy peasants and nobles who raped and murdered at every single opportunity and never once washed.

>>2948036
Art imitates life. Our modern world is hopeless and has no future, so society likes historical portrayals that are just as lifeless.

>>2947948
I didn't like the saxons neither, the vikings literraly with a wall shield they fuck like 150 armored soldiers like nothing, its like they are super humans and saxons got the jew to actually win something

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>>2948012
>I do wonder if there's an argument to be made that it doesn't matter if it gets people interested in history?

the problem is that after a while it strays so far people will look at the real thing and go "wtf i hate history now", i've seen it happen. It's not like accurate hellenic armors and set pieces would be boring, or dull, it's that they don't actually WANT to show things in different times and places looking differently and working differently. It's coat of paint over the same old.

AoE broke into the strategy genre bringing a lot of interesting concepts of civilization-building in general, the logistics of resources and military expansion, it's not accurate to a specific setting but it's a very good game that carries the theme of building a civilization and makes it interesting through it's gameplay.

this is just "what if this fantasy renaissance ninja game we had was exactly the same way but further back in the past?" none of the politics and social issues of the period are reflected in a compelling way, we're expected to believe the kingdom of the Ptolemies is an invading force in the years of Cleopatra, and that the player is justified in fighting them.

>>2948033
That style of helmet with the chain veil is possibly the most intimidating looking ever. Widely popular in the East.

>>2948029
I don't think there is any preconceived notion in pop-culture regarding the appearance of Anglo-Saxon warriors.
People who know a tiny bit of history will think round (later kite) shields, nobles in mail and fancy helmets (depending on the exact period), and of course the seaxes they're named after.

Frankly I just think it was a total lack of effort and nothing else.

>>2947953
better historical team.

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>>2948063
Now that you posted Rome 2,

Credit to Creative Assembly for actually fucking trying.

>>2948063
>people will look at the real thing and go "wtf i hate history now", i've seen it ha

Where have you seen that happen before? Do you mean to say people build up this idea of what they think a period/event was like, then feel disappointed when that's wrong? I can imagine people thinking actual Roman Legionnaires are less impressive looking than some pop culture representations of them I guess.

>>2948012
you forgot
>the history page where you had a ton of details about the history of the civilisations

>>2948069
You're probably right, most audiences don't care and I guess why would they invest money and time into getting it right.

>>2948083
Rome 2 got a lot of unfair hatred. Rome 1 is a fantasy game with terrible, shallow, gameplay. Rome 2 attempted to be historical and also had some bad gameplay bugs, but not really worse than 1 in that.

>>2948083
CA actually gave a shout out to the EB team for making such a fantastic mod.

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>>2948083
Unfortunately the outfits in vanilla Attila were pretty bad

>>2948093
Did you play it at launch? It was pretty terrible and some of the decisions were bad from a mechanics point of view (burning down gates for example - which I'm pretty sure was just a band-aid fix because they couldn't get the AI to use siege equipment properly). The lack of unit cohesion, the blobbing, and the insta-routs at launch were pretty bad.

Is it worth coming back to after being patched? I played it for a while with Divide et Impera - great mod, although, and to my eternal shame, the accurate battle speed eventually bored me out of the game.

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>>2948098
Luckily the Fall of the Eagles mod team was able to make a massively more accurate version even with their limited resources

>>2948098
Frayed mail on top of skin? That's some grimdark worthy of a bad TV show.

>>2948083
>>2948093


This, Rome 2 probably has the best units of most total war games. I mean Sherwood archers and medieval Scots in kilts? I think Rome 2 got hate because the engine was shit.

>>2948098
>>2948104
Looks horribly uncomfortable

>>2948098
I really disliked how the WRE became less 'uniform' and more rag-tag looking the further you progressed up the tech tree.

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>>2948098
thank god for Fall of the Eagles

>>2948101
The AI uses siege weapons very well. The game had one very good idea at launch where armies had control points on opposite ends of the map that were supposed to simulate baggage trains that you could capture or lose.

>>2948110
>>2948102
isn't it dead now?

>>2948107
Yeah, it doesn't make any sense historically. Roman units in the 5th century sourced their arms from local state-owned factories. Even if different units would've looked varied, the soldiers in one unit would basically look the same, except maybe for their commander who might have custom made gear.

>>2948107
This is what i hate about Attila, it just assumes that your empire is decaying even if you're playing the empire and not decaying at all.

>>2948101
It was buggy at launch. But I feel it was exaggerated. I mean, compared to Empire, where the AI couldn't even maintain a front and basically every aspect of the game didn't really work.

As for DeI, I tried it recently and I think the speed has been increased somewhat. A battle with pikemen was a long slog (as it should be), but with a Roman Army against barbarians, I rolled up their flank and broke them. Having to occasionally use the fast forward button is better than having to often use the slow botton.

>>2948117
Yeah they stopped before they got to do the Celts and Slavs. I thiiiiiiink there was one guy on the team still trying to do the Celts by himself but that was a few months ago now.

>>2948105
>medieval Scots in kilts?
Unfortunately the treatment the Celts got in Attila and to a lesser extent in Rome 2 was way less accurate than even Medieval 2.

>>2948015
Do those boots have rubber soles? What in the hell?

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>watching documentary about the Late Roman Empire
>pudgy Roman reenactors with 1st century gear haphazardly thrusting against Germans dressed in raggedy bits of fur

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>>2948120
the entire point of the game is to survive against the doomstacks that attila brings
Which is why playing as the slavs is comfy.
>burrowinging and settling in the phosphate rich ash that the huns have left behind.
>wewuzzing as rome with your poison arrows

>>2948105
Medieval 2 is fortunately less egregious than Rome 1 in that most factions have a very generic looking roster. I really only play it still because you can do 1v1v1 multiplayer. Which for some reason the Warscape engine can't do.

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>>2948086
>Where have you seen that happen before?

anything with vikings for one

>>2948093
>a fantasy game with terrible, shallow, gameplay

it was far less shallow than 2 in many ways. Moving units around without a general made a constaint train of reinforcements possible, you could have armies led without a general so they could actually perform as governors, you could have those armies perform well enough that yoru family would adopt the captain of that army into your family, the ability to pour resources into building up a city right up or fortifying even the smallest village due to strategical importance, and the actually larger map, with many more towns and terrains so that the different factions wouldn't immediately anhilate eachother right off the bat, made the campaign gameplay much more compelling.

also being able to spread out the formations on units so the skirmishers could actually filter through, and having a more functional pull & push mechanics made battles far smoother.

Rome 2 is still okay if you mod it but in vanilla it's a fucking chore to get anything done.

>>2948154
It was a deliberate design decision. I mean TW:WH2 is going to have it.
>>2948133
>it's a wrong sandals autist.

>>2948157
>and having a more functional pull & push mechanics
>when people are literally too retarded to know that rome 2 units have mass and push each other because they see an autistic video on youtube.

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>>2947776

the helmet is from the army of Stannis Baratheon, by Right and by Law the King of the Seven Kingdoms. Game of Thrones.

>>2948163

>when you repeat damage control but the battle of Cannae still doesn't work in-game because the middle of the line can't fall back without turning tail and getting fucking rekt right away

>>2948122
I should have mentioned, for reasons that I could never figure out, the fast forward buttons on my Rome 2 were broken (I uninstalled and reinstalled tons of times to try and fix it). It was pretty unbearable.

>>2948157
Both systems of governors are annoying, really. In medieval 1 every single unit was let by a commander, and you could apply titles or governorships to them. It was simple, easy to manage, and fun. As for the map; to this very day, the Total War AI cannot understand a 3d map.

>>2948169
It didn't work in the original game either. The romans run into your pikes and get machine gunned down.
>>2948167
At least they could make up their own aesthetics in the show. Even that took a nosedive in later seasons

>>2948180
the map in the first 2 games was incredibly dull.
>can't fortify strategic locations on the map.

>>2948189
It could be made more interesting. I'm not saying they are the pinnacle of design.

The AI is basically programmed to never attack fortified positions anyway.

>>2948157
I'm torn on the new army system. On the one hand, I miss what you described - being able to freely move around smaller units or garrison towns as I saw fit. On the other hand, I really liked the implementation of the way army's gained experience as a whole and became more storied.

>>2948207
good, as it should. It's why people get autistic over sieges in total war, forgetting that the vast majority of sieges were going to be slowly starving garrisons into surrender. Entire campaigns would be fucked up when a besieging army would get disease and melt away.
>>2948208
One thing you can do with the new army system is create a new army, rename it to something like, (governor of (((provincename)))) and roleplay it as a title to be given to people.

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I can't get over how hard they fucked up the Diadochi aesthetic.

It's such a unique and strange time period, why make it look so fucking generic?

>>2948214
Medieval 1 handled sieges best in terms of how they worked on the strategy map. In terms of a siege battle, of course, they were silly. In Warhammer, besiegers are more often than not outnumbered due to army sized garrisons.

Honestly though, people's main problem is that sieges aren't fun. How realistic it is or is not doesn't really matter. Anything can be fun if the mechanics are right. Sieges in the newest game are tailored towards the retarded AI and are less fun than ever.

>>2948234
I generally try and starve an army to surrender so I don't bother with siege complaints.
Older total war sieges were full on cheesefests where you could level walls when the battle started and then use a superior number of missile troops to shoot the garrison into surrender like in shogun 2.

Attila did a great thing with the siege escalation mechanic.

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>>2948234
There's a fundamental problem with the corridorised nature of siege battles. It just doesn't translate well into TW's gameplay

More Diadochi because fuck Ubisoft

>>2948244
Well, the worst sieges, without a doubt were, in order:
Rome 1 (sending a unit out the backdoor would cause the entire enemy army to circle around, getting massacred by every arrow tower)
Medieval 2 (Attacking AI would bug out and just sit there in front of the walls until the timer expired. If your army had missile cavalry, you could do something about it, but if not, you had to get up and do something else for 10 minutes)

Siege battles were never good except in multiplayer, where you could place enough players and AI to use the entire map. And even then were wildly unbalanced, just fun.

>>2948247
Yep, there are things that TW simply does not simulate. TW's gameplay is based around the hammer and anvil strategy. It simulates this, but not, say, holding reserves to replace tired units. Because flanking is always better than holding reserves, 99% of the time. And in some games, pulling back units will just auto-break them anyway.

Its just what the game is.

>>2948208

there's no reason why both systems couldn't be compatible.

think about it this way, you can't recruit core units in a province that doesn't have the right buildings and the right level of cultural affinity, but your core units can still slowly resupply and recover, so clearly there's a flow of men and gear going into your armies from Rome.

why couldn't an army in campaign simply order the recruitment of units from other parts of the empire to join them? why create a whole new army with it's own general to manually walk a new cohort to legion XXX dickensis? i have a workshop of siege engines in Patavium, why the fuck do i have to build another and take a whole slot in a random town in Iberia to get them quickly enough to be useful?

in Rome 1 you actually had to bring your units back to places with the right buildings to retrain them, and that made more sense.

>>2948261
Didn't Rome 2 have the global recruitment mechanic? That pretty much addressed that concern.

>>2948247
It seems like they just wanted that real ancient Middle/New Kingdom Egyptian vibe. Which is fine, but raises the question of why the hell they chose Ptolemaic Egypt as the setting.

>>2948283
Because it has a convenient bunch of white men to be the bad guys.

>>2948258
Actually 60 unit battles on later total war games allows you to do just that.

The blackwashing and "diversification" of recent history is pretty bad

>Black German Infantrymen in the Western Front
>Black British Infantrymen in the Western Front
>Female Infantrymen before the revolution on the Eastern Front
>Black infantrymen storming beaches alongside White infantrymen on D-Day
>Black paratroopers jumping into Germany with White paratroopers
>Germans were all rabid, murderous, killing machines with no exceptions
>Automatic machineguns and sub machineguns in the trenches of WWI

I could go on, older games weren't as historically accurate but at least there was an effort made

>>2948451
Older games were pretty ergegiously bad. It's just that you are now an edgy teen.
>older games were literally RA RA USA Stronk
>everyone used US weapons
>russians were baby eating demons
>germans were rabid killing machines
>everyone carried a BAR

>>2947794
This looks like something out of Monty Python

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>>2948460
Not at all.

>>2948451
you are too young for 4chan, only children get this angry over games

>>2948477
>battlefield 1942 had everyone fighting with US weapons.
>assault class ran around with a squad support weapon.
>a shitty burger "tank" with an open top was just as good as the tiger.
>a bazooka was just as powerful as a panzerschreck

>>2947566
They clearly have no intentions of being even remotely historically accurate or authentic, its a total fantasy game, why even get bothered by it, if it was claiming to be historical and educate people than sure but it isn't an 99% of players wont even be aware of the setting barring that its in Egypt.

>>2948510
this. They are showing what pop culture egypt looks like. Might as well say that Rome 1 had an agenda because the romans were inherently superior, spoke like californians and egyptians still fought with bronze age weapons.

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>>2948489
Don't beat around the push, just cry "wayciss" at him and get that rushing sensation of smug pseudo-superiority

>>2947820
Then they'll tout their historical advisors.

I can just imagine all these historical advisors weeping in the studio corner after pointing out all the errors, inaccuracies and blatant lies while the producers ignore them saying "it's more impactful this way!"

>>2947880
>remember the movie "The Eagle" where the Picts are literally Australian Abbos?
Actually in fairness they weren't supposed to be Picts, they were supposed to be some mysterious even further north and very primitive tribe which is scantily recorded in history, still the portrayal as literal cavemen was bullshit, and that they all spoke the same Briton language.

>>2948460
>>2948489
I wish I was an edgy teen, life was much simpler back then, look when you were a boy how much of your history did you get from movies and games? I'm not going to lie to you, when I played MoH:Underground I was blown away and even moreso when I played MoH:Pacific Assualt. I had a tape with the Battle of the Bulge that I pretty much based everything I knew about the Battle of the Bulge until I was old enough to pick up some books and do some research.

Now how do you think today's generation, and you know that preteens and children are going to play this, are going to get their view of history skewed when they play this bullshit? I want to say I'm the exception because most kids don't get into history like I did as they got older, that will probably their first and only exposure to WWI and WWII.

>>2948460
Yea but thats historically accurate

>>2948565
>everyone carried a bar
>bazooka could penetrate a tiger frontally
>tanks had hitpoints.

>>2948558
yes, kids will think that ww1 had 5 billion microtransactions and DLC expansion packs

>>2948499
I've never even played BF 1942. It wasn't the only WW2 game.

>>2948591
>>2948460
>>2948499

yeah but those are just technicalities, the problem with modern games is that they push actual narratives that don't match up to the realities of the historical context, like BF1 using an horrible slaughter like the Somme to be diverse. As if it's a good thing that black people ALSO died on literal hell on earth.

>>2948660
The older games pushed similar narratives.
The original BF1942 pushed the narrative that russians were armed wholly with american weapons throughout stalingrad.

>>2948783

being cheap shits that didn't want to model a lot of Russian gear isn't the same as wildly altering facts, if actual Americans had been fighting in Staligrad in the thousands then i'd believe you.

BF1's main sin is not only flooding the European front with colonial troops, but also removing the French from the war and leaving them to a shitty DLC, making them absent from the campaigns and maps that take place in their own country. France sacrificed even more than the UK in that war and was utterly crippled and devastated by it, but they just aren't marketable enough.

>>2947898
>>2947891

It's set in 1300 BC.

>>2948792
And BF1 was being cheap bastards that just used previous models to make a game
>removing the french
Just like how the chinese sacrificed a lot more than the USA in defeating the japanese but you don't get a single chinese model or faction in battlefield.
You don't even get the burma campaign

>>2948959
I thought it was during ptolemaic dinasty?

>>294895
No its already been mentioned that it is ptolemaic egypt

>>2947566
When does this take place exactly? Ptolemaic is too vague.
300 BC Ptolemaic Egypt is going to be very different from 50 BC Ptolemaic Egypt.

>>2949069

there were scenes in the trailer taking place in a Roman gladiator arena

>>2949080
it was just an area. You don't know if it is particularly "roman"

>>2949080
Well Egypt being run by Ptolemies and also having a Roman arena is kind of a historical contradiction isn't it?

>>2949088

i know the armored dudes looked pretty gladiator-like

and who the fuck else used arenas like that?

>>2947825

This. Unless its a REALLY big show or movie, they go to a props warehouse and get 100 "medieval" helmets, 100 "medieval" bits of armour and 100 generic rag outfits and call it good as far as extras go. It's why Starship Troopers and Tiberian Sun costumes turn up in Firefly for example.

It gets worse with documentaries because the acted out scenes are often sub contracted to another company who don't necessarily match in with the rest of the project. Hence the laughable Hannibal or the entire Wars of the Roses being fought by about 5 guys on each side in some woods in Britain's Bloody Crown.

>>2948783
Shitty research is different to doing it completely wrong on purpose

>>2948978
>but you don't get a single chinese model or faction in battlefield.

yeah but it's not set in China

BF1 is set in France

>>2947776
>>2947786
>>2947794
They wore that shit because it was the same studio that did the The Borgias and they were cutting corners by using shit they already had in the prop-house. That show clearly doesn't have much of a budget.

>>2949105
it's an ubisoft game. its probably an ebil templar slave ring which you liberate.
>>2949164
Neither is reusing assets which they did in all probability.

>>2948012
Maybe this.

I got into RmanHistry way back when after reading I, Claudius and some of the Masters of Rome books -- finding out what parts were true, and what parts made up, and what parts it's hard to tell, that was a lot of fun.

>>2948428
>allows you to do just that.
The problem that the other anon was trying to point out is that there is an actual mechanic in the game that lowers unit stats when moving next to an enemy unit. If you try to pull away a tired unit they will take a lot more casualties and as a result break from the stacked morale penalty, this is incredibly debilitating for cavalry because you're supposed to be able to cycle charge them, but pulling them out of the first charge gets half of them killed. The only way to really get around it is to blob a reinforcing unit into them so the enemy doesn't have as many easy targets to kill.

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>>2947566
Chinese historicals love putting everyone in the fictional as fuck reenditions of Tang-Song period armor (pic related, an accurate reproduction but my point still stands.)

No matter what dynasty period the film is set. Although nowadays there's a move towards accuracy.

Find an historical inaccuracy: Protip, you cannot.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=avF6GHyyk5c

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>>2947793
wow

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>>2947566

>>2950707
I was actually impressed with how well they made Afghanistan look, it's not just Arabian desert like in every other piece of media ever.
That and I really liked how they set up Operation Anaconda. I dont think we'll ever get another look at the early OEF like that

I don't mind the blackwashing because most histoy movies are usually inacurate schlock, just watch them for fun

>all greek and roman buildings are left completely white and unpainted
>barbarians are invariably savages and cant possibly be depicted as peaceful farmers
>egyptians still use chariot-heavy armies without phalanx in the 3rd century BC

>>2948180
Shogun 2 was pretty decent as far as AI is concerned. The best since Medieval 1 actually.

>>2950083
they could have made paper mache helmets and painted them silver and I'd be cool with that, as long as they made some sort of effort

>>2948660
>BF1
>tank that was built like 5 times in the entire war is now everywhere
>its just Battlefield 3 "run and gun" gameplay with a World War 1 skin
you could write an entire book with the mistakes done in that game

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>>2951174

They did a great job with rendering the environment but that was it, the retards at Danger Close literally couldn't get basic shit like uniforms (there are hundreds, if not thousands of photos of OEF-2001-2002 publicly available) or the fact the Rangers were never sent into Shahikot Valley proper (that was 101st Airborne's job) right and then have the gaul to bill it as "historically accurate".

They also opted for the Battle of Roberts' Ridge (which no one won the Medal of Honor for) and not Operation Red Wings, where Michael P. Murphy did win the Medal of Honor, which defeats the whole point of the title.

And let's not get started on how much of a childishly troop-worshipping circlejerk the plot was. The early Afghan War was the start of shit like "enhanced interrogation" and targeted killing, and since the game's all about "muh Tier 1 OPerators" who's job it is to play dirty, giving the plot a degree of maturity with things such as the "ticking time bomb" dilemma would've been a greater service to the guys who actually do this for a living and are sometimes forced by circumstance to choose whether or not to sacrifice their personal morals (and possible careers) for a greater good.

>>2947697
Holy shit, and I remember they already got it right in the 3rd one

>>2951542
The first 3 had it right. I feel like the first was written by people who actually had an interest in pirates and the period - sure, it wasn't accurate, but it wasn't meant to be. They really stopped caring at all by the end though - especially the super fantasy ships in the final and 18th century British naval officers hysterically screaming witch.

>>2947793
I unironically liked it because the actor was pretty good.

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>>2947793
Why?

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>>2947566
>egregious

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these 13th century kilts though

>>2947833
Why the fuck is the shield so tiny?

>>2947953
Man, early AC games were great in terms of historical accuracy.

>>2948477
After playing Day of Infamy for over a year I forgot how terrible this map looked in the original

>>2948489

cuck

>>2948147
True I also saw a documentary about the early Roman republic and they were all wearing lorica segmenta

>>2950141
Charge and withdraw is a legit tactic as far as the cavalry is concerned in every total war game except attila. I personally prefer mods that allow for morale shocks to be less debilitating but more frequent so that I can withdraw damaged soldiers back and plug in gaps.

>>2951994
>That guy holding 15-20 kg maul like it's nothing

>>2951270
>battlefield just milks another era for it's patented cawadooty gameplay.
shocking

>>2952493
kek.

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>>2947750

TLK is pretty accurate, Vikings is a fucking atrocity in literally every department though

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>>2952543

>>2948063
>we're expected to believe the kingdom of the Ptolemies is an invading force in the years of Cleopatra, and that the player is justified in fighting them.
So basically Revalations in reverse

>>2947750
The books are better

>>2947750
>pale rags
REEEEEEEEEEE

No shit.

Apparently dying clothes in color was invented in the 20th century.

REEEEEEEEEEE

>>2952543
I'd like to meet the costume designer for that one. Forget about historical accuracy, I just want to hear their reasoning. A helmet is here to protect your head, possibly your face and neck, and if you have ressources to spare, look intimidating. That helmet does none of these things particularly well.

>>2952553
They probably have a few historians advising them, and every single one of them must be on the verge of suicide. Seems like execs wanted something cool for a battle, asked if Vikings used charriots, were told no, asked if charriots were used at any point anywhere in Northern Europe, were told yes, but like nine centuries before any of the events depicted, but the execs stopped listening at yes.

>>2948033
>Back scabbard
This kills Lindybeige

>>2947566
Day of Infamy has terribly inaccurate uniforms

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>The Roman soldier during the Punic wars

>>2948451
>>Black infantrymen storming beaches alongside White infantrymen on D-Day
>>Germans were all rabid, murderous, killing machines with no exceptions
Literally where?
If you're talking about COD WW2 multiplayer then that's completely optional
there's character customization in that game

>>2952743

>The Roman soldier from 700BC to 500AD

>>2947566
Wow, the Greek Ptolemies sure look like they're Nubian.

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>>2948499
>US weapons
You mean the fucking pistols?
>squad support weapon
No argument.
>a tank destroyer was able to kill a medium tank
Yeah no shit?
>bazooka vs pshreck
That's literally for balance purposes.

Did you even play it?

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>>2948065
The 'veil' is actually called an aventail. An aventail is any flexible, curtain-like covering that extends from the base of a helmet to protect the wearer's neck, face, and/or shoulders. It could consist of padded cloth, mail, leather, or any mixture of those.

And yeah, spangenhelms with aventails and spectacle guards kick ass

>>2948036
Did you know that brightly colored clothing wasn't invented until the 1960s?

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>>2953356
unf

I love the clamshell-like ridge across the top.

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>>2953367
Saxons knew what was good, too. War-masks are damn spooky.

>>2948015
>That fucking lefty ruining the formation
fucking hell man, you aren't actually fighting for your life, use your other hand

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>>2951174
Nothin that hasn't been tried already even though this screencap was for pointing out a rendering problem. It shows that things get done better without a financial incentive.

https://youtu.be/XPB-YYgYA-M

Braveheart:

>Scots wearing kilts 600 years too early and painting themselves with woad 800 years too late.
>Battles are mobs of guys sprinting at each other and colliding.
>People care about "freedom."

And that's just the beginning...

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>>2953685
Goddamn this is the dumbest shit

It makes me so fucking mad

>>2953685

wait a second, are there female soldiers?

this is worse than battlefield 1

>>2949151
>Starship Troopers and Tiberian Sun costumes turn up in Firefly

I'm very okay with that.

>>2953752
what's wrong with giving players the option to make their character female in a multiplayer video game?

>>2953794
It's a world war two video game, and women did not fight on the front lines of world war two.

There shouldn't be female soldiers, letalone black female soldiers, for the same reason why these soldiers shouldn't be listening to Credence Clear Water Revival or carrying M16's

>>2953861
But these games (and multiplayer shooters in general) are glaringly historically inaccurate in basically all facets. Why shouldn't they let someone play as a woman if they want to.

>>2953861
Stop being a bigot Anon, diversity shouldn't be restricted because of historical setting, I hope I see a bunch of black female German soldiers with drum mag MP40s with red dot sights while listening to Hocus Pocus

>>2953880
There's a whole world of difference between, say, having a disproportionate amount of soldiers deploying a certain weapon, or having a squad of plucky american paratroopers gunning down hordes of crack SS infantrymen, and having black women fighting for the Germans at Point Du Hoc.

The former is forgivable action movie schlock. The latter is utterly farcical, especially if you're "trying to capture the essence of world war 2".

>>2953880
Why shouldn't I criticize historical inaccuracy if it triggers you?

>>2953861
if historical accuracy was important to the player then they wouldn't choose to make their character a black woman in the first place

>>2953880
But for almost the entirety of CoD's original WW2 run they didn't have black female SS troopers, or female Airborne paratroopers. When they did have females, it was in historically accurate contexts like russian snipers or free french sabotuers.

>>2953880
>are glaringly historically inaccurate in basically all facets.

yet they're still based on and themed after the real thing, if they can't even get the superficial aspects right then why the fuck bother?

>>2953914
>then they wouldn't choose to make their character a black woman in the first place

but they're NPCs in the campaign

>>2953914

It's not about the player at all. The fact that these are being included at all is fucking ridiculous and just shows how much of a joke the public's perception of history is, and how society's obsession with diversity is going too damn far.

There's enough we-wuzzers and other historically illiterate morons saying shit like 'people of color were a common sight in the medieval British Isles' or '[historical figure] was actually a black man'. We don't need to encourage them more with inane shit like black female german soldiers because, horrifyingly, some retards will use these games as historical resources.

>>2953926
oh i agree with you then. but they could make it so you could turn the feature on and off. you could select between historically accurate, niggers only, pacific front in europe, or melting pot

>>2953933
>pacific front in europe

Now there's something I'd pay to see

>>2948093
Except rome 1's gameplay is better and far deeper than rome 2.

>>2953685
I guess this will end complaints about white Germans being the enemies

>>2953957
Hey they have to sell this game to Germany's new population some how right?

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>>2953685
Hahaha

>>2953932
I've never gotten the impression there was a kind of diversity deficit in video games. There seemed to be representation and players from all backgrounds.

well, all male backgrounds at least

>>2953973
http://www.gamesradar.com/why-japanese-box-art-is-better/

>>2953600

Bluedrake plz go.

>That vid was actually pretty fucking great though.

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>tfw we'll never get historically accurate diversity in videogames

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>>2954039
>ywn get to play as a Nisei soldier in Europe
>ywn see them get them get a recent depiction of their bravery
>ywn get to banzai charge German positions in a last ditch attempt to capture them

Maybe they can't stand the fact that the Japanese Americans were still patriotic even after they had been interred instead of screaming for gibs

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>>2954039

>most decorated regiment in the US Army that didn't see service in the Civil War has never been portrayed in a major video game

>>2954055
What gibs were available in the 1940's?

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>>2947765
A FUCKING 16TH CENTURY BURGONET!

>>2954058
Because they're not black

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>>2954077
I should clarified that they aren't really screaming for gibs 50 years after the fact like the blacks are

>>2954058
>The men of Companies I and K of 3rd Battalion had their backs against the wall, but as each one saw another rise to attack, then another also rose. Then every Nisei charged the Germans screaming, and many screaming "Banzai!"
>ywn see this in a video game or movie

Its not fair

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>>2954039
>>2954055

>be me
>have Japanese-American classmate in high school
>she was a total qt
>her grandfather served in the 100th Infantry Battalion and was later a guard at the Nuremberg Trials
>historyboner.jpg

Too bad she was an artsy liberal airhead and we never got along. I would've loved to have married her. That way our kids could take pride in a military lineage that runs a millennia from the 442nd RCT, to the Army of Northern Virginia, Continental Army, Hessians, and the Crusaders.

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>>2948098
I love atilla but I gotta criticize them for shit like those maille collars. They look...frayed. I thought it was an error (since you cant see the tunics underneath) but it was never fixed so...
also, the germanic and norse factions could look more like vendel-era warriors... just saying.

[spoiler]Im having a lot of fun with axum though.[/spoiler]

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>>2954089

My ancestors who raced up Cemetery Ridge deafening their enemy with the roar of the Rebel Yell would've been impressed.

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>>2954089
>>2954085
Having them on the german side as enemies >>2953685
makes zero sense in regards to pandering

>>2954089

What's even more impressive is that they were willing to do so even while they were getting royally screwed by their own government.

I never have once questioned the patriotism of Japanese-Americans for that reason alone.

>>2950148
Total war: The orient
WHEN!?

>>2954089
>screaming for gibs 50 years after the fact like the blacks are
Wouldn't that depend on politics>>2954119

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>>2954099
>>2954116
>>2954125

>Colonel Rolin's grenadiers put up a desperate fight, but nothing could stop the Nisei rushing up the steep slopes, shouting, firing from the hip, and lobbing hand grenades into dugouts. Finally the German defenses broke and the surviving grenadiers fled in disarray. That afternoon the American aid stations were crowded with casualties.
>The 2nd platoon of Company I had only two men left, and the 1st platoon was down to twenty."
>On 12 November, General Dahlquist ordered the entire 442nd to stand in formation for a recognition and award ceremony.
>Of the 400 men originally assigned to K Company only eighteen turned out, joined by eight survivors from I Company
>Upon reviewing the meager assemblage Dahlquist became irritated, ignorant of the sacrifices that the unit had made in serving his orders
>He demanded of Colonel Virgil R. Miller, "I want all your men to stand for this formation." Miller responded simply, "That's all of K company left, sir."

And the madmen still fought on

>>2954085
Well hey, there still isn't a major video game release depicting the Tuskegee airmen

>>2954147
WHERE IS THE GODDAMN MOVIE AND WHY iS IT RAINING!?

>>2954167
We probably never will either, it seems to be easier just to shoehorn blacks into everything than to do their research on actual black combat units in WWII

test

>>2954039
>>2954055
>>2954175

They're probably more concerned with the Chinese market, which has had some effect on japanese casting and releases for hollywood

>>2954194
also explains why that logging-camp movie got canceled.

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>>2953973

>>2954194
What the fuck I hate China now.

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I am surprised at how good this thread turned out

>>2954213
unironically this, I hope that bipartisan committee set up on chink influence on hollywood really tears those kikes a new one.

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>Wow, there's a lot of research about the equipment and weapons of these Byzantine guys.
>Fuck it I don't wanna do that, just reskin some other units purple and call it a day.
>Now, how can we make Spain and Venice more OP?

This applies to the Muslim factions and "Russia" as well.

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>>2947790
Holy shit first time I see that moviendo mentioned. I'm a fan of the movie and books

>>2954167
George Lucas gave them a movie, I guess

>>2947750
I fucking hate this shit
I don't know the historicity of the Marco Polo show (that got canceled ;_____;), but at least their costume and prop department tries to make INCREDIBLY WEALTHY AND PROUD NOBLES AND ROYALS actually dress in ways that would make anyone turn their head towards them on the street, instead of making everyone look like asshole bums

>>2952553
>>2952683
that chariot is for one of the cripple main characters though

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>>2954641
who wasn't even a cripple IRL

Fuck I hate this show

>>2950707
what game

>>2954696
Medal of Honor (2010).

>>2954273
To be fair they had both a literal and a model-budget to stay within.

>>2954825
I always felt like they started running out of time after making england, france an dthe HRE so they rushed the rest

>>2953131
Fuck off retard. The game shipped with every assault class unit having the BAR on the allied side.

The M10 tank destroyer was about as tough as a tiger despite being a very lightly armored tank destroyer.
also
>tiger
>medium tank

>literally just for balance reasons
which is exactly what BF1 does with it's run and gun gameplay in ww1 you subhuman. Go be autistic on verdun with all the other 3 players who play the game.

>>2953920
So you get equally butthurt at 5 gorrillion quickscoping mods for your m1 garand too huh?

>>2953968
Krauts are based and play strategy games. RTS probably saved the world by giving an outlet to germanic autism that demands them to conquer

>>2954167
because no one plays premium games with air combat.

>>2954229
I guess only the burger audience must be pandered to right?

>>2955709
no, they are all equally badly made. Late era spain got the conquistadors with 2 scoops of HP

>>2952017

Eh, you're forgetting that every single person in AC1 was armed with a sword. As in literally everyone. And they were all longswords as well.

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>this whole thread
i think you're all forgetting the most important rule in any type of media: the rule of cool.

>>2955727
When Chinese influence means actual American contributions are ignored, that is indeed a problem.

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>>2955969
Please tell me that's not the actual cover

>>2956755
>actual american contributions to the tights wearing superhero community.
ok.
Also the only reason they show the PRC in a positive light is because they want the PRC censor to actually show the movie in china which is a pretty major market.

Of course the content of the film also matters which is why the mouse always wins.

>GoTG2 got btfo by a comfy bollykino about a dad wrestling with his girls.

>>2954210
It's basically just Mifune and Nakadai w though. Hardly representative as a whole

>>2949151
>Starship Troopers and Tiberian Sun costumes turn up in Firefly
What a great legacy for a costume.

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>>2947820
>he rules with a firm but fair hand

>>2947953
>What happened since then?
The public has changed.

>>2957477
not really. It's more like the franchise was extended until it lost nearly all meaning

>>2956767
the fact that there's any doubt says alot

>>2954680
>>2954641

We dont know if he was crippled or not. Just that he was called 'the boneless'.

I agree though, it doesn't make sense to me if he was a legless warlord in Viking times

>>2955721

there's no such thing as relativism on accuracy when it's blatantly made up and not merely incorrect.

also it just looks retarded, if you don't agree then you might too be retarded.

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>>2954194
>>2956755
>They're probably more concerned with the Chinese market, which has had some effect on japanese casting and releases for hollywood

You do realize local Chinese cinema frequently stars Japanese Actors, right? Case in point: Takeshi Kaneshiro played cultural icon, Zhuge Liang.

The only reason why Japs don't star in Hollywood much is because their film industry is dying and there are very few good actors left.

Meanwhile Chinese productions do not mind hiring Jap pop stars and even JAV models for roles.

Besides the Nisei were fucking allies. I don't think the Chinks would mind at all unless Hollywood starts implying "Nanking Didn't Happen, dey wus good bois" or some shit.

Wanna blame something? Blame the dying Japanese film industry and the propensity of Ameriasians to not go into acting.

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Braveheart is about as good as an American film about Scottish history, filmed in Ireland, starring an Australian could really be.

The big one is the blue paint and noble savage portrayal of William Wallace. He was an aristocrat, well traveled diplomat, accomplished knight and mercenary. I have no idea why he looks like a fucking Pict in 1293. Also:

-no bridge at the battle of Stirling bridge
-his love interest would have been 2 y.o at the time
-Andrew de moray is neglected as a key character.
-I could keep going. But the really big glaring one is the title BRAVEHEART itself. When Robert the Bruce (unifier and liberator king of Scotland) his heart was embalmed and mummified. When Scottish soldier went on crusade the heart was paraded before them to inspire them with the bravery of Robert the Bruce. The box is still in the national museum of Scotland.

>>2953973
>Mass Effect 3 promotional art modeled after a trans porn actor
This is good though

in straight outta compton they were wearing their 80's clothing in the 90's and they completely left out the eazy e diss to dr dre, they just showed dres diss and eazy crying lmao

>>2959541
>his heart was embalmed and mummified. When Scottish soldier went on crusade the heart was paraded before them to inspire them with the bravery of Robert the Bruce
Absolutely pagan.

>>2953973
Japs release absolutely nothing new. Everything is a fucking rehash.

>inb4 hurdurr Calladoody, Babyfield.
Shit even those had major changes to gameplay more often than JRPGshit.

>>2959647
weebs are delusional. The nips know how to pander to them, mostly with panty shots and kawaii characters.

There's a reason why the nips are irrelevent to Strategy games.

>>2959629
>they just showed dres diss and eazy crying lmao
No they didn't. The movie didn't say anything about the Eazy diss track or the Dre & Snoop diss track. They had the Ice Cube diss against NWA but nothing else.

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>>2959656
>Implying Nobunagas Ambition isn't based
Come on anon

>>2959683
like I said
>irrelevent
Advance wars was a nice fun strategy games but nintendo knew that no one wanted deep gameplay when they could get qt waifu simulator.

>>2959683
14 is objectively the best game in the series

>>2959690
>Country that invented grand strategy vidya with ROTK
>Irrelevant to strategy game genre
I get the feeling you don't really know what you're talking about

>>2959700
>invented
and then what else did it do?
Where are the nip RTS games or the RTT games?

>>2959683
It took a godawful amount of time for Koei to change tack.

I mean just look at the "Warriors" franchises: barely anything is new about them save for some added character.

I do look forward to how the Open World DW works.

>>2959701
They don't do real time, that's like asking where are the western JRPGs, different design philosophies

>>2959444
It depends...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xBW1lQw_WrI&t

>>2953948
Except it isn't

>The swords are, as is always the case in AAA games, as thick as a fucking cricket bat. Why they can't just make weapons look as sleek and elegant as they were IRL I never will understand.
This is recurrent in videogames. Swords always are thicker and bigger that they are supposed to be. I can understand it for miniatures because of the need for a sturdy construction, but there's no excuse to do that in a videogame. I think they still believe in the "sharpened bar of iron" meme.

Only Mount&Blade and the Witcher have it right, maybe because they were made by Eastern Europeans.

>>2959745
Except it is

The Stalingrad King Tigers in COD world at war.

>>2959830
Except it isn't

>>2959833
>Calling it a King Tiger
makes me reee every time

>>2959853
Except it is

>>2959857
Except it isn't

>>2959862
Except it is

>>2959864
Except it isn't

>>2959881
Except it is

>>2947728
Well that happened before all the most famous marble buildings were put up by Augustus.

>>2959885
Except it isn't

>>2959890
Except it is

>>2959891
Except it isn't

>>2959896
Except it is

>>2959899
Except it isn't

As it is, so it goes.

>>2959902
Except it is

>>2959905
Except it isn't

>>2959907
Except it is

>>2959909
Except it isn't

>>2959911
Except it is

>>2959914
Except it isn't

>>2959915
Except it is

>>2959917
Except it isn't

>>2959920
Except it is

>>2959922
Except it isn't

>>2959926
Except it is

>>2959927
Except it isn't

>>2959928
Except it is

>>2959931
Except it isn't

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>>2959745
Stop

>>2959944
Except it is

>>2959956
Except it isn't

>>2948519
>>2948510
Pop culture Egypt–the Hellenistic era no less, which most people don't even know existed despite lasting centuries–looks like that because companies like jubisoft make it look like that. It's a vicious cycle.

I agree that things don't need to be perfect or 100% historical accurate in a sci-fi vidya game. In fact I prefer fantasizing for the sake of coolness and being able to relate to what the characters represent but this is just an accumulation of other shit jubisoft does which makes them contempt worthy. Biggest of all is their PC, liberal virtue signaling "holier than thou" attitude.

>>2948959
should be bronze weapons then.

>>2953932

what he said.

>>2953973

Fucking United Burgers of Autism.

>>2953948
>>2959934
>the level of debate on /his/

>>2960057
High level of discourse

>>2960057
at least it's something man

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>>2959959
It fucking is, 2 was a steaming hunk of shit albeit a very pretty polished one.

>>2960196
>I wear my nostalgia goggles everyday

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>>2960196

>>2960196>>2960217

you two have an unhealthy amount of investment in this.

>>2959981
It's based on 50s hollywood egypt which is based on the bible you stupid bitch.