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Are there any historic sources for Negros or other POC in medieval

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Are there any historic sources for Negros or other POC in medieval Europe? I don't mean paintings of black saints from 500 years earlier, but sources on real historic persons. Where there any apart from the Moors in Spain?
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>>2947092

Moors were mostly Spaniards and Magrhebis.
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>POC
stop
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>>2947103
So there was no sourced black people in medieval Europe then?

>>2947108
Why?
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So are there any sources for blacks in medieval Europe, apart from Moors and Saracen raids?
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>>2947125
>Why?
-not him, but it's stupid. If white isn't derogative, then certainly black ain''t either.
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>>2947137
But POC was meant to include Asians and other brownies as well.
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>>2947092

If the term "POC" includes Asians, then you have the Mongols steamrolling through Eastern and Central Europe.
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>>2947135
Again Moors and Saracens are North Africans and Arabians, not blacks.

I think when Daniel Vavra was researching 15th century Bohemia he said that he found two sub-Saharan Africans in the Holy Roman Empire in the 14th-16th centuries.
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>>2947092
Well if I rememer correctly, there is a brief mention in the Saga of Haakon Haakonson. During his reign he recieved a delegation from some muslim ruler. Among the escort was a couple of negroes, or "blue-men" as they were known in Scandinavia.
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>>2947152
That's pretty racist to just lump them all together anon
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No. None at all. Just like there would't be any white people in sub saharan africa at this time. What pieces of art are there, like King Arthur nigger knight, is an exoticization - among other examples, like Egyptian saints that were exoticized to look negroid. There is a giant desert between your precious little pocks and the evil whiteys. One that would only be traversed by mercenaries or slaves (arabs were the merchants). There were non-whites in Eastern Europe - they're called Mongols, Tatars and other invaders. There were non-whites in Southern Europe, they're called Arabs - and all these non-white people came to invade and rule/kill whites.

Why do niggers insist on having their useless race shoved into every setting ever?
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>>2947175
Thanks, thas what im looking for.

>>2947166
>Again Moors and Saracens are North Africans and Arabians, not blacks.
Ya ok, but they had a lot of black slaves and so there wuz blacks around.
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>>2947092
No
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>>2947241
No, stop appropiating andalusian culture you nigger
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>>2947255
>implying arabs and north africans didn't have plenty of black slaves
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>>2947092
likely traders and slaves but not much else,London was famous for it's moorish quarter during the Elizabethan era
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all european monarchies descent from sub saharan africans
this has been proven countless time and only a racist would deny it
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>>2947264
Depending of the era, they didn't or had plenty. Until the 12th century or so the majority of slaves were chrisitans, slavs or turks.
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>>2947135
Stop calling berbers blacks, you american
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>>2947282
Yes, well the 12th century is medieval, the Muslims still in Spain and they had plenty black slaves.
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>>2947092
>Where there any apart from the Moors in Spain?
I don't think all moors were full black desu or even some black
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>>2947125
>Why
Because POC is offensive in two years, the correct term is POWTCTIAWARHCOMITS (People, or whatever they choose to identify as, with a relatively high level of melanin in their skin)
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So consensus is apart from the black moors there where next to no black people in medieval Europe, and if they where they have been with Muslim envoys or with the circus?
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>>2947092

Not really. There may have been a handful scattered across the entire continent somehow, but nothing like TV shows like The Hollow Crown where random lords and knights are black because that's how modern society is composed.

Like with all medieval art, it's important to check what is actually being depicted. Quite a few paintings that "clearly show medieval black people" are showing Saint Maurice, a soldier from Egypt in the Roman army.

There is the medieval PoC blog but their definition of "medieval" and "poc" are very, VERY broad. People standing in shadows are black apparently.
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>>2948000
There is no such thing as black moors.
You want to know where noggas where?
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>>2948168
There is 0% black population in Europe until recent history.
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>>2947152
And white is a non-color for some reason?
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>>2948184
Is there history of whites in black africa?
No
There is mo history of blacks in europe
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>>2948203
Pic related is spanish moor
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>>2947125
>Why?
It triggers whites for some reason. I think it reminds them how outnumbered they are.
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>>2947183
No, what's racist are the policies made by whites globally to hinder their prosperity until quite recently in history.

Saying POC is like saying Non-white and the above is why people saying it.
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>>2948184

Define recent.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Blanke
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>>2947092

Basically non because there basically were no non-whites living in europe

Blacks were literally kept in zoos and regarded as animals, do you think that would be possible if they were walking about like normal
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>>2948271

yeah white people giving them farms, schools and roads was really a dick move

when they gave them clean drinking water that was really the final straw
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https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=8D7DgDZcCBg
AYO
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>>2948271
>No, what's racist are the policies made by whites globally to hinder their prosperity until quite recently in history.

blatant lie

go get some more welfare you fucking nigger
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>>2948271

>look at this empty desert with only a few nomads occasionally passing through
>lets build two of the greatest countries in the world
>lets LITERALLY give it to africans, even though they killed those nomads and these guys have no connection to this land

Truly white people are a scourge upon the earth
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>>2947233
/thread

And just in case it wasn't clear ITT already, the Moors and Saracens were North Africans or Berbers. Most people hear "North African" and assume they must be darkies, there were no Sub Saharan Africans in Europe and if there was ONE that some how found his way there, he would be irrelevant.

You cannot go and make a case off of an exception.
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>>2948597
>Implying North Africans didn't bring their black slaves to Europe.
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>>2948632
Ok so the first niggers in Europe were slaves brought in by the North Africans, do you think that people today would want to go with this angle? It's easier to just make Hannibal a nigger than to face the reality that if it weren't for slavery, the Sub-Saharan African would've probably never made contact with Europe
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>>2948176
Whitewashing hard? At least 1 in 10 Moors was black, thats the reason why so many Spaniards have such a dark complexion today.
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Europe used to be full of niggers who went straight down the Nile to the intercontinental trade network called the Mediterranean.

Ironically it was Islam that cut them off from Europe and began enslaving them giving them the reputation as strange creatures from another land. It was also Islam that caused Europeans to imagine Maurice and other historical figures as Negro rather than then predominantly Islamic Berber or Arab. Islam was the "imperialism" of its day, but of course reality contradicts modern biases. Things change, it does not rob modern Muslims of the victim status they so crave with all the attendant privileges and special treatment, but normies have difficulty understanding this, it is easier to revise history.
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>>2948176
>>2948706
Fucking morons. Read this.

> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_Guard
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>>2948168
>medievalpoc

Medievalpoc is a fraud who claims various ethnic heritages (they are currently claiming to be Lakota--says their dad was born on a Lakota reservation in Arizona, which don't exist--and "40%" Romani, with the claim that their Romani grandmother was smuggled out of Europe by a Jewish couple in a suitcase) and who has been caught editing paintings and taking paintings out of context in order to further a really bizarre agenda. They don't even have a basic understanding of the medieval era, much less other historical eras that they post about.

It's a shame because their antics are undermining any serious study on POC living in historical Europe.
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>>2947233
>Why do niggers
Is this referring to Afrocentrists or something else?
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>>2948725
Source
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>>2948725
>Europe used to be full of niggers
Stopped reading right here. Kill yourself.
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