Why isn't Sichuanese considered its own language rather

because Sichuan is only good for their spicy food which is great btw

t. Chinese dude

>>2927055
ONE CHINA, you indubitably imperialist trickster of dissents! With highly cramped arms will we tirelessly toil for the language of unity in our land. Peking dialect is an obvious neutral choice.

Because Chinese "dialects" would actually be considered as different languages by our standards. Sichuanese vs Standard Mandarin is much less different that Cantonese Vs. Mandarin.

>>2927055
Didn't Sichuan have a big population drop during a revolt in the Qing dynasty? I was under the impression that there aren't many sichuanese speakers left after thatand the central government can get away with saying it's just a dilaect beacuse of that.

>>2927110
Sichuanese still has over 100 million native speakers.

The CCP is scared shitless of what will (emphasis on will) happen when the Chinese people get restless. The bloodshed that will occur when China balkanizes - and it will - will be tremendous. It's simply the fate of China, an empire long united must soon divide, and an empire long divided must soon unite.

So the CCP is attempting to kick the can down the road by getting rid of ANY divisions. One China, One Language, One People. Ignore the tremendous linguistic, cultural, ethnic, and religious diversity please.

>>2927142
>So the CCP is attempting to kick the can down the road by getting rid of ANY divisions. One China, One Language, One People. Ignore the tremendous linguistic, cultural, ethnic, and religious diversity please.

I know why the CCP would do so, but why does the rest of the world not consider Sichuanese a separate language? Like for example, in any of the thousands of publications listing the world's most spoken languages, Sichuanese is invariably just lumped in to Mandarin's numbers rather than being listed as the #10 most spoken language in the world on its own.

>>2927142
>long united
>70 years
>still not united if counting Taiwan
We got a long way to go Gordon G. Chang

>>2927055

The difference between a "language" and a "dialect" is political, not linguistic. Scots is considered a "dialect" of English, while Frisian is considered a totally different language, and the Romance languages are all different languages despite being more or less mutually intelligible.

>>2927165
Hey, I'm not saying it'll happen anytime SOON, but that's why the CCP is trying to kick the can NOW instead of in 100 or so years when the Hui decide they want to suck Saudi cock, or the Zhuang chimp out, or people start to feel more loyalty to their province, etc etc etc.

>>2927153
Because the numbers are given by the CCP and the CCP lists them as the numbers of a dialect rather than a language. Why do individual academics care what the CCP thinks? Because the CCP is an independent and important country and not doing what they want is "offensive". I personally think more academics should tell the CCP to pound sand but that's just me.

>>2927177
The romance languages are not all mutually intelligible.

>>2927055
There are many different branches of Mandarin. Sichuanese is considered a dialect of Southwestern Mandarin. Of course it wouldn't have much mutual intelligibility with Beijing Mandarin. But they both descend from a common Mandarin language ancestor.

>>2927630
there's generally a spectrum of intelligibility where languages or at least certain dialects that exist near each other are mutually intelligible, even across national borders

>>2927630

Yes they are you stupid monoglot cunt. Maybe not French, it's quite divergent, tho even French in its written form is easily comprehensible by other Romance speakers.