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>Chinese mythology shows existence of Xia Dynasty >*crickets*

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>Chinese mythology shows existence of Xia Dynasty
>*crickets*
>Biblical mythology shows existence of Hittites
>OMG repent and be saved!
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>>2922908
Xia Dynasty is actually a meme though.
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>>2922934
Even if Jews can record history how does it mean the big Sky Kike is watching over everything?
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>>2923009
Because Kikeness is the very essence of both G-d and Tian
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>>2922908
>>2922934
No meming, what is the consensus on the Xia Dynasty? Historical, legend, or mix?
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>>2923270
Mix. Current consensus is that Sima Qian and his successors made an incorrect assumption that Xia, Shang, and Zhou were a succession of states when they were instead just the most powerful among a large number of states, and happened to conquer one another. There have been archaeological sites found dating to the about when Xia is reported to have existed, but there is great diversity in sites and no way to know if it was Xia or some small state later conquered by Xia or Shang and forgotten.

The mistaken assumption is understandable given that Sima Qian and the rest lived during times of universal empire and assumed the ancients weren't that different from themselves. Sima Qian, for example, could not have known that the Shang practiced human sacrifice.
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>>2923270
It wasn't so much "China" or a proper dynasty so much as one of many kingdoms in bronze age China.
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>>2923472
>>2923484
Thank you Anons.
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Damn OP, you sure convinced me. I'm off to become a Confucian at once. Praise Benevolence!
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>>2923499
>not embracing the dao
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>>2923270
While there were archaeological cultures that preceded the Shang polity there's no evidence these sites formed a coherent dynasty or that they even spoke Sinitic.

As the Shang never once mentioned the Xia,this is most likely a Zhou era fabrication of claiming cultural continuity as well as offering a convenient justification for their conquest of the Shang polity.

The royal Ji clan and their Jiang surnamed consorts had ties with the "barbarian" Rong-Di and contact with Tibeto-Burman/steppe(proto-Turkic?) speaking neighbors.
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>>2923522
Mohism is the best.
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>>2923270
Definitely existed. No written language or conclusive evidence of being "sinitic" though.
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>>2923534
The oldest shang oracle bones and shells do mention the "ancestor kingdom", but there's no conclusive evidence of it being sinitic or widespread.

Sadly, the writing methods were very very rudimentary before Shang.
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