Was the USSR initially an attempt of a Jewish Nationalist state?

>>2899015
>Most of the key figures in the Bolshevik Revolution were Jews.

False. Stop reading cherrypicked infographics ne pick an actual book.

>>2899031
oh boy here we go.jpg

Why do Jews WE WUZNT so hard when it comes to communism? It's pathetic.

>>2899041
Because you're on /his/ and you obviously don't know what you're talking about.

>>2899041
I don't know. Why do /pol/tards try to go so hard to DEY WUZ when it comes to connecting Jews and communism? Lenin wouldn't have been considered a Jew under the Nuremburg laws. Let that sink in for a minute.

>>2899015
>Why did Jews militantly push an ideology that says everyone is equal in Russia?
gee fuck me, maybe because they got pogromed all the time?
>Harvest is shit?
>JEWS
>Don't have any money
>JEWS
Jews were the Tsarist boogeyman for white slavery

>>2899041
Don't bother. When you finally get them to admit there were a lot of jews involved in Communism at the high levels they just chalk it up to jews being oppressed and being naturally drawn to revolutionary movements. Then you ask why so many jews are still involved in Communism in the current year despite being one of the wealthiest demographics in the usa they disappear. It's the same old song and dance time and time again and the jews obviously have a benefit to distancing themselves from communism as much as they can despite every major communist intellectual of past and present being BLATANTLY Jewish.

>>2899069
>Muh Gommunism in 2017
They're social dems, which is even worse, don't give them the credit of being communists

>>2899069
Really? I wasn't aware that Jews were disproportionately Communist in the current day. Can you show anything to that effect? And I don't want a list of Jewish communists, I want some statistics about how many Jews are drawn to communism as opposed to other ideologies, because we have quite a few Jews in other economic philosophies as well.

Jews were at the forefront of all intellectual movements for the last 200 years and you goyim are simply going to have to live with it.

>>2899015

>Did the Jews suffer similar treatment?

Yes.

>Lenin declared antisemitism a crime

No, he didn't.

>>2899077
>inb4 infographic

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>>2899069

How do these conspiracy theories work? How can Jews be greedy bankers AND communists at the same time? Huh, it's almost like people project their own problems onto Jews without evidence.

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>>2899031
>False. Stop reading cherrypicked infographics ne pick an actual book.
actually you should start reading a real history book, Marx was a uber jew, Trotsky was a jew , Lenin was a jew and so were many others

>>2899098

This is the part where you start trying to claim that Stalin was Jewish. Go on, keep going.

>>2899093
>How can Jews be greedy bankers AND communists at the same time?
because they end up controlling the world one way or another. even in communism the wealth was still concentrated in the hands of a few jewish administrators ( till the 60s). the name doesn't mater, who rules does
you just fell for a jewish trick

>>2899093
I think /pol/ call it the blackpill, where you just give up on life, because that's winning apparently

>>2899098
Explain to me why Stalin purged the shit out of kikes in the doctor trials and the trials against the Jews who opposed fascism then? Go on

>>2899111
no he was georgian, still an asshole who didn't care for anyone. read Gulag Archipelago

>>2899098
Marx wasn't even Lenin's biggest influence.

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>>2899113

So if the Jews control everything then why shouldn't I support them?

>>2899120
>Stalin was georgian
>Trostky was a jew
>in the end he grew tired of them, the jews tryed to jew but Stalin didn't take shit from them
When Krushcevh came USSR basically became anti-Israel, but till than they USSR and Israel were allies, see Rosenberg treason trials

>>2899134
because they actively support the destruction of the white race through moral relativity, critical theory, degeneracy and ethnic displacement
white people are the engines of progress of humanity, without us the world would stagnate

>>2899122

>"Stalin was bad!!!!!!!!!!!"
>Ignoring the fact that he defeated Hitler

>>2899136
> but till than they USSR and Israel were allies
Then why did they try to make their own Jewish state based on Yiddish in Siberia? Why did they arm Palestinians? Why were they militantly atheists? Why did the Soviet military insist on that Atheism? Whyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy?

>>2899143

>Whites the master race
>Yet they are apparently controlled by Jews

It appears that Jews are the master race.

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>>2899147
Israel and USSR were allies till Nikita Khrushchev came to power
in the 50s the soviets were pro-Israel, they even sold them weapons, the KGB was full of jews back than
>>2899151
the arabs would anihilate Israel if the jews stop having western protection

>>2899161
>Israel and USSR were allies till Nikita Khrushchev came to power
Is that why all the Doctor Trials against Jews happened in the 50's and Stalin prevented Jews from leaving for Israel?

>>2899145
Stalin still killed a shitload of his own countrymen in his own purges.

>>2899161

And the west is controlled by Jews, therefore Jews are obviously the master race.

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>>2899161
>The arabs would anihilate the jews when they stop having western production

>So its in the best interest of the jews to destroy the west and replace it with Arabs

>>2899171

So what? Hitler would have gassed every single Russian if he hadn't been stopped. Stalin saved millions of lives.

>>2899178
Obviously, also Jews fucking LOVE Muslims, forget the dozen or so wars they've fought, they want to destroy whites so they can have a world order that despises them and won't pay for shit because this benefits them, apparently

>>2899015
Virtually all of what you posted is simply incorrect factually.
Lenin was an atheist, and only a small percentage of the original central committee was ethnically Jewish.

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>>2899169
Nikita Sergeyevich Khrushchev served as First Secretary of the Communist Party of the Soviet Union from 1953 to 1964, and as Chairman of the Council of Ministers, or Premier, from 1958 to 1964.
>>2899178
>>2899186
divide et impera
literally that. whites used to oppose jewish interest, so they had to come up with a plan to reduce the influence of that group. by creating a multi-kulti society with multiple competing groups and no clear majority-group they can take power more easily. the jews have been jewing for 2000 years now, they know nobody is better than them at controlling a society were they don't have a clear ''top predator''

>>2899201

And beyond that, the USSR suppressed all religion, especially Judaism.

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>>2899211
The Jewish Autonomous Oblast (Russian: Eвpéйcкaя aвтoнóмнaя óблacть, Yevreyskaya avtonomnaya oblast; Yiddish: ייִדישע אװטאָנאָמע געגנט, yidishe avtonome gegnt[14]) is a federal subject of Russia (an autonomous oblast) in the Russian Far East, bordering Khabarovsk Krai and Amur Oblast in Russia and Heilongjiang province in China.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jewish_Autonomous_Oblast
looks to me like they have priviliged status

>>2899209
>by creating a multi-kulti society with multiple competing groups and no clear majority-group they can take power more easily
>hey guys we need a group to disseminate whites
>What about blacks?
>too obvious
>Well guess we'll use the one religion on the planet that absolutely despises us and left wing teenagers sympathize with
How are Jews running the world again? They don't seem very good at this

>>2899015
No. Communism was supposed to be against any kind of nationalism or racism. Also Lenin would not be considered Jewish under the Nuremberg Race Laws.

>>2899209
>Jews have been plotting for 2.000 years now, and throughout those 2.000 years that scheme has never been truly revealed or just simply died

Yeah, still not buying it

>>2899209

>whites used to oppose jewish interest, so they had to come up with a plan to reduce the influence of that group

So they came up with a plan to replace whites with Muslims who rabidly hate Jews. Awesome plan. Weird how right-wing parties tend to universally pro-Israel, whereas left-wing parties tend to be much more neutral or even openly anti-Israel, yet in this fantasy world of yours, "the jews" desperately want you to vote for left-wing parties that don't support Israel, rather than right-wing parties who are extremely supportive of Israel.

>>2899220

>Kicking them out of the country
>Privileged status

>>2899098
Trotsky is the only one of those who would be considered Jewish under Hitler's laws and all of them were atheists and opposed to religion anyways.

>>2899233
All parties are pro Jewish even sections of the Democrats that cow tow to Palestinians do not oppose Jewish rule in any meaningful way. Zog is real.

>>2899242
This, Obama made my frogs gay

>>2899242

The Democrats are an example of a political party that is more neutral, whereas the Republicans are very pro-Israel. Obama even allowed the UN to pass a judgement condemning Israel, which is something that the UN has tried to do for literally decades but always got vetoed by the US. Hell, the current Republican president even has a daughter who converted to Judaism.

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>>2899228
read PanEuropa by Kudhoven-Kalergi
>>2899231
the rabbinical tradition formed when the jews were for the first time expelled from Israel by the babylonians. These deportations are dated to 597 BCE for the first, with others dated at 587/586 BCE, and 582/581 BCE respectively.
so actually it's more like 1500 years
>>2899233
>Weird how right-wing parties tend to universally pro-Israel
those aren't real fascists :)
mainstream right-wing parties like Israel because they are nationalistic
>left-wing parties tend to be much more neutral or even openly anti-Israel
antifa is openly attacking anti-semites
>>2899240
all of them were raised in a jewish-tought influenced environment. the jewish intellectuals have a superiority complex and believe they are saviors of humanity, hence radical politics, like gommunism

>>2899242
>America = the entirity of the white world

Any Europeans in here? Let's see what our political parties say:

In the Netherlands it's like this
Right-wing:
PVV: Pro-Israel
VVD: Pro-Israel
FVD: Pro-Israel
VNL (Didn't make it through the elctions): Pro-Israel
SGP: Pro-Israel
Christian union: Pro-Israel
Jesus lives (an actual party): Pro-Israel
CDA: Mixed oppinions
D66: Mixed oppinions

Now for the lefties:
Socialist party: Anti-Israel
Greenleft: Anti-Israel
Animal rights party: Anti-Israel
Denk: Anti-Israel
Labour: Anti-Israel

Oy gevalt, vote for the leftie parties that hate us and want to see our jewish ethnostate gone

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>>2899269
bigger dimension

>>2899269

Then "real fascists" don't exist because basically every right-wing part in the modern western world is pro-Israel. Wow, I guess the Jews win again. No point in even trying to fight them.

>>2899179
>one """"good"""" makes up for all of those evils.
False.
Also killing Hitler was arguably good.

>>2899288
real fascists are doing hard years oif jail time for ''hate speeach''. a lot of real fascists don't openly talk about their beliefes.all far right groups right now are prepping for the inevitable bloody end of the multi-kulti experiment in a couple of decades

/pol/ has already ruined /lit/ and i see that the infection has already spread here too,

>>2899269
>read fanfiction by someone who agrees with me
Why do Jews in Israel hate niggers and Americanand European Jews love them? Are you telling me they have secret phone calls at the synagogue where they all coordinate their efforts? No you fucking retard they were brought up in different climates

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>>2899307
MAGApedes ruin fucking everything, even /pol/

>>2899307
While /pol/ is all over this board they are hardly on /lit/ and when they are it is to shill one of the dumb e-celeb books like Sam Hyde's.

>>2899302
>>2899302

Still doesn't explain why "The Jews" would want you to vote for left-wing parties that don't support Israel. In order for this conspiracy worldview to make any sense, "The Jews" would have to be very supportive of right-wing parties. And that's basically true, at least as far as Israeli Jews are concerned. If Israel could make Republicans win every election, they would.

>>2899311

My god. Are you trying to suggest that Jews are capable of independent thought, even to the point of sometimes disagreeing with other Jews?

>>2899312
It takes true unbridled retardation to ruin the shittiest boards here (/pol/, /tv/, /v/) all in a matter of months.
Is this going to be the final summer of 4chan?

>>2899338
Sorry, my mistake, Jews are a gestalt and they all think and behave the exact same way, and that is to destroy their main consumer base (whites) so blacks and Muslims can take over. Because somehow they win on this deal

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How to marry Jewess gf?

There's no point in resisting them centuries of eugenic pressure as money changers in medieval Europe made them an unstoppable force. Nietzsche was right.

>>2899349

>The right-left dichotomy is a lie, don't support it!
>But make sure you support right-wing parties otherwise the Jews win!

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>>2899349
I don't know anon, this sounds familiar...

>>2899354
they only accept goym males if they hold considerable power and the rabinnical council decide that you could further their agenda and bolster their influence

>>2899362
So they only accept alphas? Wow that's way more stringent than the rules for LARPing as a retard on 4chan, I need to look into this

>>2899359
supprt patriotic parties that protect your cultural and genetic make-up
>>2899360
and who gave Israel to the zionists?

>>2899372
>and who gave Israel to the zionists?
America, it was trust territory before that the British oppsed any Jew immigration to
>B-but muh Balfour
No one cared then and no one should care now, Lawrence also promised it to Arabs, and before 1948 they literally didn't give a fuck if some Jews got blown up by Arabs. No one ever brings that shit up because it ruins MUH JOOS narrative

>>2899284
>actually, unironically using "the spartacist uprising was the only part of the german revolution!!" meme
go back to the trash where you belong

>>2899349
Actual quote
>"The man of the future will be of mixed race. Today's races and classes will gradually disappear owing to the vanishing of space, time, and prejudice. The Eurasian-Negroid race of the future will replace the diversity of peoples with a diversity of individuals."

>>2899399
All the sailors were jewish, don't you see WW1 was Jewish plot to destroy the white race and not at all stupid fuckfest about infantile cock measuring in world diplomacy!
>>2899403
>One Jew said it so all must think it
Just like Is said gravy is better than red wine jus and everyone agrees with me

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/pol/'s one drop rule is at it again.
Lenin was just as Jewish as he was Chuvash. His Jewish ancestor, his mother's father, even converted to Christianity and married a German.

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>>2899383
you should research early British Israelism. basically a bunch of anglos that believed Jesus will onlky return when the jews rule Israel again. they worked for decades to give Israel to the zionists, they included wealthy and affluent people and their influce shouldn't be dismmised
>>2899399
>>2899403
maybe you would listen more to a left-winger, Bakunin, pic related

>>2899403
There is even more. He compares this new race to ancient Egyptians. It's just one of many utopian programs for the future. I think he also mixed two books, because there is nothing about Jews in his Pan-Europa manifesto.

>>2899423
>you should research early British Israelism
I have, and what a funny thing that the British givernment would oppose any notion of Jewish nationalism that they had to be trained by an autistic guy who ate raw fucking onions and the government banned him from ever going back? It's almost like it was lip service to win a war and went too far, really makes you fucking think doesn't it?

>>2899403
>>2899425
yes exactly, I don't see where I'm wrong. the destruction of the white populations in order to recreate an ''egyptian-like people''
you can see this all around you today

>>2899423
>maybe you would listen more to a left-winger, Bakunin, pic related
i would love to if you actually gave a source for that quote besides a shitty image macro

>>2899441
>yes exactly, I don't see where I'm wrong.
maybe the part where you posted a fake quote to support your argument

>>2899441
>destruction
There is nothing about their destruction.
>you can see this all around you today
They started Syrian civil war or Arab spring to destroy Europe? Nonsense.

>>2899423
>Bakunin was an idiotic antisemite who thought Marx a Jew when he wasn't raised in the culture nor was whole ethnically Ashkenazi

>>2899488
>where is the flaw in my rethoric?
That Israel controlled Britain when the British were racist as fuck to Jews and deferred to Arabs in all things? This isn't hard, at least try to be fucking coherent

>>2899015
Jews gonna Jew. What else is new?

>>2899488
>expelled ~100 times over ~2200 years
how is this impressive again

>>2899509
Don't forget how most of these are from individual cities. You know how many times Catholics and Protestants got expelled from cities in the 30 years war alone?

>>2899509
They like to leave out the reasons why
protip: It was because they owed them money from poor fiscal policy

>>2899488
>globalresearch
Isn't this a Russian controlled site? But even if it's true, their reason has nothing to do with migrants or "white genocide".

>“Withdrawal of the super powers from the region and letting Israel alone in front of Hezbollah and Iran that possess good abilities Will make “Israel” in a hard position”
But islamization of Europe is their goal? Imagine all those Muslim European countries with nukes. Are Jews suicidal?

>>2899488
>it wasn't a quote, it was more like a summary :)
good attempt to deflect from the fact you posted something demonstrably false to support your argument

>>2899488

>Russia and Moscow listed separately

>>2899541
>Are Jews suicidal?
He's just going to shitpost about MUH SAMSON
Why even bother?

>>2899560
>Literally muh blood libel: The post
Those darn dirty Joos, busting into churches to pierce the host of Christ, totally accurate information devoid of any bias, I fucking hate Israel but faggots like you are just embarrassing

>>2899560
>that pic
Neocons are the biggest Zionism pushers, not liberals. Liberals and socialists tend to sympathize with Palestine.

>>2899560

>and ususry, and unfair commercial competition

So in other words, the Jews were kicked out for being too capitalistic. But I thought they were supposed to be communists?

>>2899560
>the jews will rule the dumb muslim masses
And now you're going full retard. The only people allegedly controlled by the Jews are educated liberals. Muslims everywhere hate them. Poor, uneducated people also are more likely to be anti-semites.

The Jews would control Islamic Europe when they are afraid and can't do anything about fucking Hezbollah and Iran? lol

>>2899560
>after they were allowed to return
it's funny how they kept letting the oh-so-hated, horrible jews return time and time again
it's almost as if that other anon was right and rulers let jews in because they were poor as fuck and needed money then kicked them out so they wouldn't have to pay denbts :)

>>2899560

>the jews will rule the dumb muslim masses

The same Muslims that rabidly hate Jews?

>>2899560
>not an argument, they got expelled from multiple countries, sometimes multiple times from the same coutnry after they were allowed to return
It is an argument, you're just too stupid to understand why. Lots of other religious groups also got expelled from multiple political communities, so there's really nothign special about DA JOOZ

>>2899560
i dont get it. muslims was known to hate jews. now they wanted to give them higher technological capabilities by giving them western world? surely that plan will fuck them in the ass no matter how smart they are right??

>>2899623
>or maybe they used their influence in royal courts to return
but they somehow couldn't use that influence to keep from getting kicked out, huh? truly flawless logic :)

>>2899623

>if by forming monopolies and underselling the competition you mean capitalism

Yes. Those are definitely capitalistic things to do.

>>2899623
>By proclaiming redemption was available through acts of sin, he amassed a following of over one million passionate believers
yeah and there was an Eastern Christian church that said fucking your sister was awesome, what's your point? That Jews have people as retarded as Chirstin cultists? Damning evidence, wtf I hate all semites now

>>2899649
>tell me another religious community that got expelled from 100 countries
Lutherans, Calvinists, Catholics.

>>2899649
They had a "real basis" in the fact Catholics fucking hate Jews and then Russians used them as a scapegoat for shit harvests, there is lieterally no for it, if it was so important to their religion why did they stop? Wouldn't there be monthly stories on missing white men who turn up dead, drained of blood, in a synagogue, do you honestly believe every single fucking cop in the entire western world is taking bribes from Goldstein and not a single one is an anti-Semite?

>>2899659
judaism = a religious faith based around the ethnicity of a group
christianity = not ethnocentris

still teh calvinists and lutherans only got expelled from 10-15 countries max

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>>2899649

If the Jews are so darn powerful, then why should anybody oppose them? They're clearly three steps ahead of everybody else if they can influence all these world events effortlessly.

>>2899673
Conveniently, there are not actually 100 countries on that list.

>>2899649
>when goym peasants can't take it anymore they tend to get rid of the alien jew
peasants had no say in state affairs. what you're saying is the same royal courts the jews supposedly had so much influence in continuously kicked them out (which somehow this influence couldn't stop!) but were then influenced to let them back in. oh yeah, makes perfect sense :)

>>2899673
>judaism = a religious faith based around the ethnicity of a group
No it isn't. That's why they allow converts. See the book of Ruth.

>still teh calvinists and lutherans only got expelled from 10-15 countries max
Nonsense. The Council of Trent involved the banishment of Lutherans from every city in Italy; and if you're counting every individual city polity as a country for purposes of expulsion of Jews, you're stuck with the converse when it applies to Christians. You've got at least 30 different "countries" in Italy right there.

>>2899673

That list was mostly cities, not countries.

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>>2899672
well you asked for the redpill :)
no it's still happening in the form of satanic ritual abuse. you should research Aquino and the Temple of Set. The Temple of Set had many jewish adhrents. nowadays it's the religion of the jewfied political elites of the world. the rich Rothschilds and Co keep it well alive, only now influencial goym are allowed to join their saturnian cult too
>>2899677
because I like white women and I want my kids to live in world where they won't be targeted because of their skin tone

>>2899696
And some of them were non-countries. There was no "Italy" in 1492. There was Milan and Genoa and Venice and Siena and Florence and the Papal State and Naples and a bunch more besides.

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>>2899696
>That list is mostly shit to spin my narrative
Fixed that for you
>>2899702
>I'm literally retarded and you can't stop me
Well, have fun

>>2899015
Mind my copypasta

Relocation and Deportation of Jews During the War

>Following the Soviet invasion of Poland, Stalin began a policy of relocating Jews to the Jewish Autonomous Oblast and other parts of Siberia. Throughout the war, similar movements were executed in regions considered vulnerable to Nazi invasion with the various target ethnic groups of the Nazi genocide. When these populations reached their destinations, work was oftentimes arduous and they were subjected to poor conditions due to lack of resources caused by the war effort.[24]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vladimir_Lenin

>Lenin was nevertheless an atheist and a critic of religion, believing that socialism was inherently atheistic; he thus considered Christian socialism a contradiction in terms.[473]

>>2899702
why am i not surprised you're a pizzagate memester
isn't it funny your movement died out just like pedowood did?

>>2899718
>try converting to judaism as a male, with no political clout
I won't lie, it's not easy, you'll have to take about 2 years worth of courses, but it's something literally anyone can do provided they're willing to put the study and energy into it.

>>2899718
Sorry anon, I can't take you seriously after you implied your austistic arse could nail any cunt on planet earth

>>2899726
well I can only point it out to you. I didn't believe that satanic ritual abuse was real, but then I read that book. He debunks all the serial killer mythos and pedowood shit , it's worth a read. try, don't just dismiss knowledge because it doesn't support your worldview
t.former liberal here

>>2899718
>no the poor farmers who had enough rebelled and trew out the jews
yes, the poor farmers with zero political clout "rebelled" (something that actually happened very rarely in medieval europe!) and threw out the jews, thats why that meme image you posted refers specifically to a royal edict expelling the jews
truly flawless logic :)

>>2899743
Oh I'd absolutely believe there are Jewish kiddy fuckers in Hollywood, Dan "the man with the van" Schnider confirmed that for us a decade ago, doesn't mean the entire Jewish faith is about smashing underage poosy

>>2899015
A lot Jews joined the Bolsheviks not because they believed in communism, but because they wanted to get rid of antisemitic policies of tsarist Russia and, just like most of the other minorities of the Russian Empire, found Communists' internationalist rhetoric and promises to end racial and religious discrimination very appealing. And yes, some Jews joined Cheka and took part in the Red Terror in order to take revenge against the Russian Christians for the pogroms. It is common for minorities to take revenge against the majority who used to oppress them once they take power. However, Trotsky has written articles in which he criticized Jewish nationalism and Lenin never really self-identified as a Jew. To sum up, while actions of individual Jewish Bolsheviks may have been motivated by Jewish nationalism, it would be a stretch to call the Soviet Union a Jewish nationalist state.

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>>2899718

>The Jews are so weak that they keep getting kicked out
>The Jews are so powerful that they control the upper class

WHICH IS IT?

>>2899772
Jews are actually pretty superficial window dressing to left wing politicism until like the 30's, the international was dominated by European anarchists until they all got kicked out in the 2nd for not subscribing to euros killing euros over stupid shit

>>2899765
no it's not, I hate Jewish and jewish-influenced elites, the problem is that your average jew is supportive of the jewish elites
>>2899778
the jews are a very powerfull pseudo-religious bloodline group that controlled european nobility trough money and ''council'' , but because of their limited numbers they were vulnerable to upsurges of antisemitism from the goym

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>>2899791

So they control the upper-class yet they constantly keep getting kicked out. Nice contradiction.

>>2899791
>the problem is that your average jew is supportive of the Jewish elites
The average Jew don't care about anything, they're the most nihilistic people I've ever encountered, until you make holocaust jokes at least

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>>2899791

>The Jews controlled the nobility and used them to maintain power
>The Jews supported communists who wanted to slaughter the nobility

>>2899120
You realize there's a divide between Stalinism and other types of Communism, right? The non-Jewish Commies just happened to win in Stalin.

>>2899841
the tsars were notorius antisemites, they also had those laws that kept jews from certain professions
the anglo royal family on the other hand....

>>2899845
>Our authoritarian socialism is totally different guys!
This never ends well

>>2899093
They are internationalit bankers, who created the jewish nation-state via establishing a government trying to puryfiy the world of nationalism and capitalism, which was opposed by Adolf Hitler, who longed after imperial government in germany, who sent communist government to russia in the first place, but he lost to the biggest Jew, Joseph Stalin, who killed the jewish communist Leo Trotsky and exiled most jews to Biro-Bidzhan.

His succesors continued Stalin's policy by supporting Palestinian National-Liberation Front.

>>2899145
Russia won WW2 despite, not because, of Stalin.

>>2899015
Nein, perhaps Jewish Left Nationalism, however Jewish Right Nationalism was achieved by the creation of Israel.

OP here, thanks for responses. When put in context of the pogroms/oppression of Jews during Tsarist Russia, things make a lot more sense.

ITT: The Man Who Overdosed On Redpills.

>>2899081
Underrated, and the truth

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>>2899015
What does this face convey?

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>>2899015
>Was the USSR initially an attempt of a Jewish Nationalist state?

No. At no point did the USSR mention Judaism or nationalism in any of its policies.

>Lenin Jewish
Lenin went his whole life without knowing he was Jewish

>His desired successor Trotsky
Trotsky was not Lenin's desired successor. It was very much Stalin, until Stalin was rude to his wife. Have you ever read a book on the subject?

>Most of the key figures in the revolution were Jews

Incorrect, 20% of the ruling Bolshevik council (Central Committee) was Jewish.

-Lenin (distant jewish ancestry)
-Andrey Andreyev
-Aleksei Badayev
-Andrey Bubanov
-Nikolai Bukharin
-Vlas Chubar
-Felix Dzerhinsky
-Grigory Evdokimov
-Mikhail Frunze
-Mikhail Kalinin
-Lazar Kaganovich (Jew)
-Lev Kamaneve (Jew)
-Moisei Kharitonov (Jew)
-Sergei Kirov
-Nikolay Kolotilov
-Nikolay Komarov
-Stanislav Kosior
-Ivan Korotkov
-Nikolay Kubiak
-Emanuel Kvirin
-Mikhail Lashevich
-Dmitry Lebed
-Ivan Lepse
-Dmitry Manuilsky
-Alexander Miansnikian
-Vasily Mikhailov
-Anastas Mikoyan
-Vyacheslav Molotov
-Ivan Morozov
-Ivan Moskvin
-Nariman Narimanov
-Mamia Orakhelashvili
-Sergo Ordzhonikidze
-Grigory Petrovsky
-Georgy Pyatakov
-Karl Radek (Jew)
-Christian Rakovsky
-Janis Rudzutaks
-Alexi Rykov
-Turar Ryskulov
-Mykola Skrypnyk
-Alexander Smirnov
-Joseph Stalin
-Leon Trotsky (Jew)
-Alexander Tsiurupa
-Nikolai Uglanov
-Konstantin Ukhanov
-Mikhail Uryvayev
-Kliment Voroshilov
-Isaak Zelensky (Jew)
-Pyotr Zalutsky

31 members, 7 Jews = 22%

22% is not "most", it isn't even half of "most".

>Orthodox Churches were ransacked and clergy were slaughtered during the Russian Civil War. After the Reds won, Lenin declared that members of the church could not hold land or practice their religion. All their property was seized. Did the Jews suffer similar treatment?

Jews weren't allowed to hold lands in Russia under the Tsar, so they couldn't have their estates seized.

part 2 incoming

Why can't you /pol/tards just stay in /pol/?

Why do you have to degenerate every single board?

The same goes for lefty/pol/ too. Fuck off back to your cesspits please and leave the serious discussion to people without brainrot.

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>>2899015
>Orthodox Churches were ransacked and clergy were slaughtered during the Russian Civil War. After the Reds won, Lenin declared that members of the church could not hold land or practice their religion. All their property was seized. Did the Jews suffer similar treatment?

Jews were not allowed to hold property under the Tsar, so their estates were not seized.

There was however Bolshevik persecution of Jewish religious officials, yes. The Jewish socialist group, the Bund, was outlawed by the Bolsheviks. Rabbis went to Trotsky to protest Jewish starvation and arrests during the 1921 famine, to which Trotsky said he didn't care and didn't consider himself Jewish. The Moscow Head Rabbi's response was "The Trotsky's make the revolution and the Bronstein's (trotsky's original name) pay the price". Of course, this quote is left out of your narrative

>Lenin declared antisemitism a crime
He declared all methods of racism a crime because communists considered ethnic discrimination counter-revolutionary, as they believed in class over race.

>calling someone a "Yid" could land you in jail for up to a year.

Source

>Did any other ethnic groups receive such treatment?

Poles, Baltics, Ossetians, Georgians, Armenians, Azeri's, Ukrainians, Muslims all received protective legislation from the Soviet constitution of 1924. This is because all groups had been persecuted under the Tsar. Of course, all groups (Jews included) were still oppressed by the Bolsheviks

Jews starved in the 1921 and 1930s famines. Jews fled the USSR in droves. The USSR was one of Israel's biggest enemies, and every communist group to this day is anti-Israel. The idea that the USSR was a "Jewish nationalist state" is laughably stupid.

>>2900503
wtf I hate Charles Manson now

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>>2899098
> Marx was a uber jew
Except he wasn't. He was an atheist and spoke out against Judaism many times.

>>2899015
>Lenin was Jewish, his desired successor Trotsky was Jewish. Most of the key figures in the Bolshevik Revolution were Jews.

They were atheists.

>Did the Jews suffer similar treatment?
Yes
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antisemitism_in_the_Soviet_Union

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>>2899348
4chan has always sucked big gorilla dick

>>2899849
REALLY ACTIVATES MY ALMONDS ANON NICE POST

>>2900289
kek

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>>2899015
>Lenin was Jewish

>Was the USSR initially an attempt of a Jewish Nationalist state?
No.

>Lenin was Jewish
False.

>Most of the key figures in the Bolshevik Revolution were Jews.
False.

Stormfags and their pathological lying again.

>>2900503
ayy lmao

>>2899143
Y tho

>>2901677
>first_three_b_posts.jpg
newfag

>>2899413
You best hope that picture unrelated

>>2900753
>Alfred Rosenberg was a jew :D Power to da people :D

This is what happens when you consume too much jewish literature. Alfred Rosenberg was 100% german. When jews came to Germany they chose german sounding names to blend in, one of the more popular one being Rosenberg,
Come on anon I thought you guys wee good at history
Also Marx might have been an atheist but his mentality was heavily influenced by his rabbinical athmosphere upbringing

>>2900638
>and every communist group to this day is anti-Israel.
antifa would like to disagree

>>2899075
There was some good quote I saw recently about how when commies take control of the US, it won't be under communism but under liberalism.
Just cause they don't say they are commies don't mean they ain't commies

>>2899233
More niggers are flooding Europe than Muslims cuh

>>2899220
Give every ethnicity of the country their own land
>HURR DURR JOOZ ARE PRIVILEGED
Besides, Hitler wanted to do this first in Palestine then in Madagascar.

>>2899307
/lit/ was never good you book tuber molesters

>>2899703
If all the Italian city states at that time banned kikes, why not just say Italy to save time typing?

>>2900633
Because 4chan isn't a website where you have to sign up for one board and ONLY go on that board. People browse multiple boards because they have multiple hobbies you mong. What, are you expecting people on /pol/ to discuss everything from porn to cooking to television but with a "politically incorrect" tweest to it?