Why is depression a big thing today than the past decades, centuries,

>>2897334
More awareness of it really, people likely often dismissed it as being sad or lazy in the past.

>>2897334
Middleclass grew too large
Lack of catholic faith led to the new gods of veganism, sex, and raves

Because big pharma wants you to believe that daily antidepressants intake is heathier than polishing off three or four glasses of wine a day in the town square with all the other members of your community. On wait nobody goes out any more because everyone is glued to the tv instead and communal bonds are considered passe.

I guess you better drink alone while watching the price is right then.

>increased diagnosis means increased incidence

>>2897334
>Why is depression a big thing today than the past decades
As maintaining comfy life becomes easier by day, during the increasing free time outside of maintaining creature comforts brain demands more struggle and action than it is getting.

When there is none -- it makes one up in form of boredom and depression.

>>2897373
>implying vaccines aren't making autists gay

>>2897334
The weakening of both integration and regulation.

Individualism was a mistake.

literally because egalitarianism and nihilism

this shit will kill us all

>>2897334
Loads of reasons

In the middle class, sedentary lifestyle is probably a big part. Turns out people aren't meant to sit behind desks all day. It doesn't help that the meaninglessness of their desk jobs is readily apparent.

In the lower class, the illusion of upwards mobility is broken by the surplus of information. Also urban and rural decay, at least in America.

In both, sedentary recreation contributes. Vidya or even just sitting around reading all day is no way to keep your body working efficiently. It needs to work efficiently to make all those fancy brain chemicals. Additionally, the job market is terrible for everyone. When you can't even land a meaningless desk job or manual labor job, it really hurts the ego

Too much information.

>>2897334
in the past people attributed feelings of unhappiness to very present and obvious reasons to be unhappy. we have less of those now.

>>2897334
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anomie

But really it is this>>2897373

It's not, we just call it by a different name. It's been called malaise, hypocondriasis, "the vapors", hysteria, a dark mood, yellow bile, we can trace depression back easily to the Greeks and even farther. Of course it's easy to assume that because we hear about depression more now that means more people are depressed, but that could be due to a myriad of factors like willingness to disclose mental health, willingness to seek help, or simply availability bias. Keep in mind the numbers are of course much larger when the population of the earth is 7.5 billion versus 500 million not even 400 years ago, but I would imagine percentage wise the rate is about the same. Some of our greatest presidents, Lincoln, Teddy Roosevelt, FDR, suffered through documented periods of deep depression.

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>>2897334
>big thing today

>>2897334
Too much information
>tfw to smart too be happy

The sheer number of historical people who killed themselves, "drowned their sorrows in alcohol" or "died of grief" makes me think it was pretty widespread.

>Le old times were better xDxdxDd meme

>>2897373
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>>2897373
Anyone with an ounce of critical thinking skills knows this is the answer.

Psychiatrists and the medical diagnosis of depression are recent things, before that you'd just say "Mary has hysteria, that's why she hasn't gotten out of bed in a month" or "Mark is an awfully blue and grumpy fellow, always has been"

>>2897334
I'd argue that the 19th century was more depressing.

>>2897373
it's this
compare it to "demon possession" turning into "schizophrenia"

>>2897654
nihilism is a reaction to the existential depression

>>2897373
This. Holy fuck.

For the rich upperclass, hard earned wealth has made everyday struggle completely meaningless thus their life largely devoid of meaningful challenge.

For the poor, a lack of upward mobility means their daily struggles are meaningless as well since there is no eventual reward, only more drudgery

For the middle class, a very unhealthy diet and lifestyle coupled with the diminshing importance of religion, nation and ideology means a lack of purpose.

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>>2897373
>>2897954
>>2898015
>>2898818
>>2898864

>>2900258
>Everyone who does not agree with me is reddit and therefore their points are invalid

>>2900258
wouldn't thinking big pharma is the culprit and you can solve it by a conversation with your (voodoo)priest be a popular liberal reddit stance?

You know what's real quackin' crazy? Just a couple hundred years ago, "female hysteria" and fainting spells were a very common medical problem. Then all of the sudden, the disease just went away, almost as if it was a social creation and not a physiological one.

>>2897334
Vaccines OP, vaccines is the answer. It didn't do anything good for us (Malaria, Smallpox and Tuberculosis was already going away) and gave us a lot problems. Humans have been around for far longer than any vaccine has been and a healthy body can handle anything nature throws at it.

>>2900299
Too bad about all those unhealthy Native Americans getting btfo by European disease, maybe if they just drank more milk and got strong bones it would have been like a common cold :^)

It seems more likely to me that modernity is responsible for an increase in depression as a whole rather than rates remaining absolutely unchanged across time and culture.

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>>2900302
why do you think a people of nomads and foragers could ever keep the populations historians want us to in? it never struck you they lied about it like they lied about vaccines saving us from measles?

Probably we have actual free time now. I'm surely happier when I don't have time to sit still.

>>2900298
t. Someone who's never been depressed

I think none of us actually know anything and we are just picking the version that supports our ideological or religious stance. Notice the complete absence of sources.

>>2900388
Sources would do the same thing we do -infer and synthesize. Care to contribute or you just passing by to talk shit?

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>>2897334
Self diagnosis.
Its a plague, so many people (at least from my experience) get sad or deppressed and then go on to say that they have the medical condition of deppression and share rick and morty memes on facebook aswell as stock images of a guy considering hanging himself with the caption "me irl".
Because some genius decided to name anxiety and deppression the disorders straight after their main emotions everyone who even remotly feels or relates to that emotion can immideatly say they have it.
Oh and we should talk about it more, thats being fucking pushed except hold on a minute no fucker who has mental illness really wants to talk about it openly outside a close friend group so the fakers previously mentioned do all the talking for them and completely dilute the weight and meaning of the word until theyre plan backfired and instead of talking making it more accepted it becomes more hated because people think the massive strawman theyve created is the real deal and despise it.
This fucking triggers me I hate the people who do this so much.

>>2900385
t. someone so damaged by drugs and pharma propaganda that he believes basic human emotions nearly everyone experiences are a curse that he must suffer from for the rest of his life

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>>2900367
That's ALL deaths, tard.

>>2900400
How would we tell whenever or not depressions are more common now than they used to be? What do you do too quantify psychological problems?

Increased suicide rates? More people seeking anti-depressive medication? More people withdrawing from society? Lower rates of people reporting satisfaction with their lives? Obviously not all of these metrics go back even a century, but there seems to be a noticeable trend even in the last 50 years of increased rates of depression that can't all be attributed to simply increased diagnosis.

Durkheim's work on Suicide back on 1897, albeit far from perfect and in many ways outdated, noted that the most typical profile for a suicide was a young, unmarried man living in a city. If city-dwelling and modernity have a negative effect on the human psyche, increased rates of urbanization in the last decades have had to increased both the gross amount and percentages of depression.

>>2897350
And it's illegal to consume alcohol on public.

>>2897341
>I've never had fun in my life

>>2897350
>>2900789
You obviously don't get out at all or live in the middle of fucking nowhere. I see the same people at whatever local pub I happen to be stopping at every time I go.

>>2897373
perhaps you are saying something like >>2898015 where they were depressed but the people back then didn't count it.

if you are thinking "people were never depressed until doctors talked about it" then you are retarded and so are those who agree.

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>>2900258
Nice refutation fag, any more danck jaypegg maymays?

>>2897334
Comfort. Same reason why so many nobles were sadsacks.

>>2897943
This.

Sheer number of drunks drowned the depression diagnosis.

>>2900817
The pubs of today really can't be compared to the pubs of yesteryear.