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How do I study a subject/civilization/person?

I wanna get into chinese history
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>>2895736
"History in Three Keys" by Paul Cohen is great for the Boxer Rebellion, but I don't know any other great books for Chinese History.
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Watch Mulan
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>>2895736
Read books about them
That's literally it
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>>2895736
Chinese History Podcast
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>>2895736
Dynasty warriors
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>>2895736
I'm not even gonna bother trying to come up with something stupid to say because image should be so unfathomably obvious that do so would just detract from the stupidity of your question.
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Really ?
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>>2895822
>>2895867
>>2895869
I'd rather ask a question and learn than not ask and not know what to do
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>>2895736
Some other anon recommended me "Autumn in the Heavenly Kingdom" if you're looking for Taiping shit. I haven't finished it yet but it's excellent so far.
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>>2895736
Start with Wikipedia. Seriously.
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Start honestly with Wikipedia or other online sources to get a general framework of the situation. Then delve into specific topics that interest you and find books to read about them by asking around here or reading Wikipedia bibliographies
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>>2897776
>>2897782
Yeah, Wikipedia is always a great place to start. Pretty much everyone here uses it as a reference, even if they try to talk shit about it.
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aoe II
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LET'S GET DOWN TO BUSINESS
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>>2895736
>How do I study?
Please tell me this is not a serious question. Are people of (presumably) my generation seriously THIS inept?
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>>2900019
He's going for 0.01 plus $10 shipping on eBay.
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>>2900029
Ending by 10 pm central.
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>>2900035
No bids yet.
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http://greatmingmilitary.blogspot.com/
Have you ever woken up at 3am feeling like you live in the wrong dynasty? HAVE I GOT THE SITE FOR YOU
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China: a History, by John Keay is the best 1 volume intro.
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>>2901111
And if you're knowledgeable about or interested in a particular area of science or technology, check out the relevant volume of Needham.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Science_and_Civilisation_in_China

Also, checked.
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>>2897776
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Warring_States_period

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/An_Lushan_Rebellion

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Economy_of_the_Song_dynasty
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>>2901111
John Keay is good for Imperial China, but China: A New History by John King Fairbank is better for the Republic period onwards.
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>>2895822
>>2895867
which kinda begs the question of which books
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>>2895736
>All recommendations for Chinese history are written by non-Chinese

Ray Huang is the only correct answer here
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>>2901462
Any other Chinese books written by Chinese people?
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I made the same thread a long while ago.

The Cambridge history of China, all volumes.
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>>2895736
I would recommend Harvard University Press' series on Imperial China for a good overview of dynastic history. Keep in mind though these are fairly scholarly reads, and, as other anons suggested, I'd say read up on the general gist of things before starting the book on the Qin and Han because Lewis makes several references to pre-imperial China without explaining.

You could also try Valerie Hansen's "The Open Empire: A History of China" Through 1800. I haven't personally read it but I have read her "The Silk Road: A New History", so I'm fairly confident that it's good. There's also a two volume history by Harold M. Tanner titled simply "China: A History" that I've heard is good.

There are a shitton of really great books about more recent Chinese history. I'd recommend the following:

The Opium War: Drugs, Dreams, and the Making of Modern China---Julia Lovell

Autumn in the Heavenly Kingdom: China, the West, and the Epic Story of the Taiping Civil War---Stephen R. Platt (as another anon suggested)

History in the Three Keys: The Boxers as Event, Experience, Myth---Paul A. Cohen (as another anon suggested)

Frank Dikötter's trilogy about the Communist Revolution, Great Leap Forward, and the Cultural Revolution

Don't really know of any good books on the Republic or Warlord Eras though

For something more specific, I'd recommend Emperor Huizong by Patricia Buckley Ebrey and The Gunpowder Age: China, Military Innovation, and the Rise of the West in World History by Tonio Andrade.

Also if you'd rather not do it chronologically, you can just choose a specific era or dynasty that interests you and delve into that. That's what I did with the Tang and Song dynasties and later with the late Qing era. China is a history lover's dream and there's literally so much cool shit in it that it's hard to choose where to start. But read any of these things I've recommended and you can start your journey.

>>2895828
This. Great both for overviews and specifics.
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>>2895736
If you have a long commute you can listen to the History of China podcast by Chris Stewart. It was inspired by and in the same format as the History of Rome podcast, he's just reached the end of the Tang Dynasty.
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>>2902697
Ray Huang wrote in English but he received a Chinese education, making him pretty unique
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>>2902726
This is still the most comprehensive and deepest history of China but unfortunately it uses the Wade-Giles romanization instead of the much more accurate pinyin, so reading it rapes your eyes.

But if you don't know Mandarin and are a beginner to Chinese history it probably won't bother you
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Good recommendations. I need to create some type of history book graphic.
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>>2903366
>Wade-Giles romanization
Isn't that based on some other language?
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>>2895736
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>>2901462
>No one can know anything about a civilization or culture without being from that culture
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Is the history of China podcast worth listening into?
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>>2906606
It's quite good, although personally I'm not a big fan of the narrator's voice. But then again my favorite history podcast narrator in terms of voice alone is History of Byzantium narrator so maybe I have shit taste.
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>>2895828
You mean China History Podcast?
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>>2906783
No, there's two podcasts. The China History Podcast by Lazlo Montgomery that jumps around interesting topics, and The History of China Podcast by Chris Stewart that follows chronological order and is explicitly modeled on the History of Rome Podcast.
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>>2906792
Which ones is better? Or should I listen to both?
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>>2906794
They're both good, it's just down to preference whether you prefer them to leap around a variety of topics from episode to episode, or a single historical narrative.
The History of China Podcast is still incomplete, though, he's just reached the end of the Tang Dynasty at episode 122. I personally listened to History of China Podcast up to the latest episode at the time, then started listening to China History Podcast after that.
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>>2906783
Yeah, I mean that one. The other one that >>2906792 mentioned is good too.
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>>2895736
Emperor: Rise of the Middle Kingdom got me into Chinese history
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>>2906151
Not as far as I'm aware

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wade%E2%80%93Giles
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Forgotten Ally is an great introduction to China during ww2
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>>2906591
Of course not. But one can perceive significantly different perspective to Chinese history from Western and Chinese historians. I simply prefer the latter, at least for an introduction into Chinese history
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>>2907488
Chinese historians' perspective is colored by the dynastic cycle meme. Hence how quick they are to associate Erlitou and Erligang sites with Xia and Shang respectively even though Western scholars point out that there is really no evidence for such a link and that China at that time probably had a huge number and variety of separate settlements and cultures which don't fit neatly into traditional historiography.
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>>2895736
Good documentary to get you more interested. About the rise and fall of the Tang Dynasty. It covers the coup of Li Shiming to the fall of the Empire while being centered around the Daming Palace in Xi'an.
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>>2908453
Forgot to put link. Here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SoSIpWbqS60
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>>2908455
I wish I could go back in time to punch An Lushan in the face.
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>>2897800
Mah nigguh
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>>2901446
Go general to specific. Buy a reliable looking book that is pretty much "the big book of Chinese history" once you find topics you like buy books like "the medium book of the Tang Dynasty" and eventually even more specific books like "the small book of the Tang military" and "the tiny book of Tang horsemen."
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>>2908935
This.
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