>America sends a bazillion troops with the stated war goal

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but muh k/d ratio anonymous
muh kills
muh mcdonalds in saigon anonymous

>>2882385
Honestly I've never heard of people arguing that Vietnam was a victory.

>>2882385
The whole shit with Vietnam and Korea was the military industrial complex exerting its new found political power. It still does.

Did the allies lose world war I because Hitler went on to violate the treaty of Versailles? No? So we didn't lose Vietnam just because the NVA went on to violate the Paris peace accords. Deal with it america haters.

>>2882405

Visit any given vietnam thread and there's at least a 70% chance of an American doing exactly that.

>>2882466
Why isn't there in this thread then

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>>2882618
>Why isn't there in this thread then

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>>2882413
interesting revelation familia

>>2882385
And yet, Vietnam approval of the United States is like the third-highest globally. Really makes you think...

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>war of 1812
>we burned down their capital when we invaded them with the intent to conquer Canada, but then we got pushed out and had our own capital burned down in an offensive war that turned into a defensive war on our own soil.
>it was a tie.

>>2882385
Did North Vietnam take South Vietnam while the US was there?

>implying any side ever "wins" a war

I'm pretty sure that in retrospect, all sides would prefer the war never happened at all. Wtf is wrong with humanity?