On this day, 564 years ago, Constantinople fell to the Ottomans.

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>>2877918
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RETAKE CONSTANTINOPLE WHEN

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Blessed Martyr Emperor Constantine XI, pray for us!

Does anyone know a collect or prayer to this saint that I can pray?

>>2877918
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Praying that Muslims and Christians can live together in brotherhood in the holy city of Constantinople, and that the rightful Greek territory be returned peacefully. May the divine liturgy be celebrated once again in the Hagia Sophia!

>>2877918
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thread theme

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wcze7EGorOk

Posted this in the other Byz thread, but maybe you guys have something to contribute as well:

I have a special devotion to Emperor St. Constantine XI, but I'm struggling with one aspect of his martyrdom:

>On 21 May, Mehmed sent an ambassador to Constantinople and offered to lift the siege if they gave him the city. He promised he would allow the Emperor and any other inhabitant to leave with their possessions. Moreover, he would recognize the Emperor as governor of the Peloponese. Lastly, he guaranteed the safety of the population that would remain in the city.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fall_of_Constantinople#Siege

Honestly, that seems like a pretty good deal. Wouldn't it have been more Christian to put his people's safety first? Imagine the suffering he caused by refusing these terms.

>>2878303
DELET THIS

REEEEE

>>2878317
Some battles are for territory and strengthening. Others are moral battles, battles of civilization. This was the latter. That changes the motive of decision making.

>>2877918
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>>2877918
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>>2877918
>Byzanshits destroy europe by allowing the turks to conquer Anatolia and Greece
>Byzanboos are so edgy they still suck its dick

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>>2877918
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May 29 1453 best day of my life.

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>>2878493
>Byzanshits destroy europe by allowing the turks to conquer Anatolia and Greece
They only did that because of those fucking venetians

>>2878493
t. Enrico Dandolo

>>2877918
Ataturk facked your mathers and you happent.

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>>2877918
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MAKE ISTANBUL CONSTANTINOPLE AGAIN

>>2878560
>>2878568
Venice did nothing wrong. Byzantium deserved everything it got.

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>>2877918
ITT Greeks LARP as Romans and act butthurt about getting cuckolded by a superior culture

>>2877918

IT DID NOT "FALL"; IT WAS REVITALIZED; EASTERN ROME, BY THE TIME THE OTTOMANS CONQUERED IT, WAS A JUDAIZED CORRUPT BUREAUCRACY TOO DECREPIT AND SENILE TO BE ANYTHING BUT A FORCE OF "EVIL".

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>>2878766
Go to hell, cuck. Venice betrayed christian empire and made muslims enough strong to conquer almost whole eastern europe.

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>>2878792
The eternal Anglo should have exterminated the t*rkroaches tbqh

>>2878818
>Pope calls for a Crusade
>only Frankniggers answer
>AYOO ENRICO WE GON TAKE DA HOLY LAND U IN
>I dunno it doesn't look like you can really do anything
>WATCHU SAYIN?! WE GOTS LOTSA NIGGAS JUS BUILD US DEM SHIPS
>Venice shuts down their economy for a year
>Frankniggers show up with like 50 guys and an old horse
>The fuck is this?
>LOOK MANE WE MIGHTA MISCOUNTEDED WE GOOD THOUGH
>Venice needs to recoup costs
>fuck it take Zara
>Pope gets pissed
>Fuck off
>Excommunicated!
>Fuck off
>AYY MANE CHECK OUT DIS LIL GREEK NIGGA
>Oy vey, ya gotta help me get da throne back
>I dunno
>Oh if it's shekels you want then I'll pay ya all I got dis ain't no bubbe meise
>YALL SHOULD LISTEN TO THE LIL GREEK NIGGA
>Yeah, sure, okay
>Get to Byzantium
>Retake the city
>Where's the money
>Wha?! I didn't promise ya nothin' 'n besides I'm broke!
>DIS LIL GYRO EATIN' MUTHA FUCKA'S TRYIN'A CHET... CHEEP... CHEEP US!
>Yeah, you go ahead and get him Tyrone of Honhon
>Frankniggers proceed to rape and burn and smash everything in sight
>Dandolo keeps his men from behaving like savages
>God, fuck this, we're fucked just take what we can get and let's go
>AYY HOL UP DEM RUSEV MUTHA FUCKAS IS LOOKIN' MIGHTY SHIFTY
>Tyrone of Honhon gets killed
>Venice is the bad guy in all of this

>>2878808
>tripfag is retarded
what else is new

>>2878832
How is he "retarded"?

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>>2877918
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>>2878839
>judaized corrupt bureaucracy
>force of evil
it might've been in its weakest state but it wasn't any of those things, especially a force of evil when that's much better allocated for the Ottomans

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>>2878845
One day i'll narrate this.

>>2878850
>... it wasn't any of those things...

?

1. JEWS HAD TOTAL CONTROL OF THE STATE CHURCH, AND ACTIVELY EXERTED THEIR SOCIOPOLITICAL INFLUENCE.

2. THE CORRUPTION WAS SO GREAT THAT IT HAD BECOME SYSTEMIC; INTRIGUE WAS A QUOTIDIAN OCCURRENCE.

3. THE STATE WAS AN OVERLY COMPLEX BUREAUCRATIC APPARATUS.

4. THE ORTHODOX CHURCH, VIA THE STATE, SYSTEMATICALLY PERSECUTED, AND/OR KILLED, AUTHENTIC CHRISTIANS, AND SUPPRESSED AUTHENTIC CHRISTIANITY.

HOW WAS EASTERN ROME NOT A FORCE OF "EVIL", ACCORDING TO YOU?

>>2878903
You're going to need a source for these claims.

>>2878916

IF YOU DO NOT KNOW THIS, THEN YOU ARE NOT IN A POSITION TO ARGUE ANYTHING REGARDING THIS TOPIC.

THE FACT THAT YOU "DEFEND" EASTERN ROME, WHILST BEING IGNORANT, IS A FLAGRANT DISPLAY OF DELUSION.

>>2878945
>caps locking tripfag
>doesn't provide sources
here's your (you)

>>2878830
>Venice needs to recoup costs
>fuck it take Zara
And you don't see how sacking a Catholic city at the start of the Crusade was an issue?