How did the Arabs become so piss-poor at fighting in the latter

>>2870204
Because they fucked their cousins for thousands of years and so they all ended up retarded.

1. 20th century Arab states are, and I can't think of another way to put it, colonial constructs. Instead, personal loyalties often go to religion or:

2. Tribalism. Look how fast the Iraqi Army bolted when ISIS had momentum. They don't really care about the 'country' they're defending. But that zeal comes through big-time when faced with sectarian matters (which is religious tribalism)

3. Arabs and modern warfare just don't mix. I read something about a someone in the US military who worked in the Middle East with Arab 'allies', and he complained about how they refuse to do the nitty gritty work of maintaining all their fancy equipment/tech. Also, something about how Syria's air force being really stupid against Israel.

>>2870204
>Muhammad Ali
>Arab

The Arabs weren't great fighters anyway. Even during the Abbasid Caliphate they were relying on Turks, Circassian mercenaries and Dailamites to do the fighting for them

>>2870204
>FAP
Fucking chad

>>2870204
Colonization

>>2870204
When Arabs are united under a common leader with a common goal, they're not bad. See: Hezbollah. The problem is when a bunch of different Arab countries ruled by paranoid dictators "join forces", as in the wars against Israel. There's no cooperation or trust.

>not posting arab Israeli wars

Before:
Fight to spread your faith and for loot
Fight with your tribe under a feudal arrangement as part of a larger force
The leader was produced via political maneuvering and conquering, and was a badass dude that everyone looked up to.

After:
Fight to defend and/or gain land for your """nation""" which had its borders defined by European powers.
Fight with random strangers in a an attempt at a homogeneous army.
The leader is some CIA-installed puppet dictator.

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>>2870234
>The Arabs weren't great fighters anyway.
They used to be to even found those Caliphates.

Arabs just have a serious case of resting on their laurels, leading to their encuckment by Turkic rulers for a long time.

>>2870539
nigga arabs became shit fighters after big daddy ghengis came and assraped them, leaving the middle east in the state its in now

Interesting read, written by a US Army colonel.
http://www.meforum.org/441/why-arabs-lose-wars

>>2870204
Look at their leadership and societal structure. The leader of these countries where strongmen whose main use fornthe military was not foreign conquest but internal policing and control. Furthermore many parts of the middle East still adhere to tribal loyalties so,the whole cohesion of the armies are lost and made ineffective. This means that often soldiers and officers have zero trust in one another and fail to share info. C

>>2870234
I forgot he was Albanian or something, I could've sworn he was part Arab.

It really comes down to culture. Long story short, their officer and NCO corps are fucking dreadful. They horde knowledge instead of spreading it.