I've read that in contemporary history it's widely assumed that Plato's Atlantis is a allegory used to boost the idea of a powerful statehood for Athens.
I'm curious, even though it's within a allegorical story, the writings as best I can determine don't make Atlantis out as a prop for the allegory.
Is Plato writing from a older tradition, or really making up a history for the purpose of his allegory?
>>2869035
>it's widely assumed that Plato's Atlantis is a allegory used to boost the idea of a powerful statehood for Athens.
Considering Atlantis was the antagonist who were punished for their hubris I doubt this is the case.
>>2869035
It's a fairytale, Plato claims it came from an anonymous source in Egypt yet the Egyptians have absolutely no mention of it, neither do any of the other peoples of the ancient world, and the dates Plato gives (9,000BC) make it clear he isn't talking about a real civilization, since that is some 7,500 years before there was such a place as Athens.
>>2869047
>Athens repels Atlantis' attack because it is united
At least that's what I got from it.
>>2869035
No, it's not from an older tradition, at least not in Greek literature.
There were things such as the Esperides and far lost, lucky islands in Greek literature but that's probably because of early Greek/Mycenean Greek's travels to the Western Mediterranean, the memory of such travels to the west must have stayed impressed for some centuries in the collective Greek consciousness, also later Euboean and Ionian Greeks traveling West in the 8-7th century bc must have gave birth to some legends about the far west
He is basing it on faint memories of the bronze age Mycenaean world, namely the Minoans and the Santorini eruption mixed up with the sea peoples.
>>2869035
If Plato wasn't pulling it out of his ass, the story can probably be traced back to Pythagoras and Egypt.
Plato being the only source for the story makes it very unlikely to be true.
HOWEVER, Homer was the only source for Troy for centuries (all secondary sources being based on him), so... Who knows.
he is referring to the mighty god kings of ancient doggerland
>>2869035
>>2869069 Is the most widely accepted theory as far as I know.
Like all stories, it's mostly bullshit, but it is built in a real foundation.
>>2869817
Do keep in mind that MANY works from that time have been lost, and we've only been able to get bits and pieces of a lot of these stories trough multiple decades.
>>2869035
A giant comet hit NA around the time Plato claims Atlantis sunk, it's not bullshit