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What do you think is the best way to deal with the inevitability

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What do you think is the best way to deal with the inevitability of automation?
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Basic income by increased taxation on the automatizing corporations.

Keep the shitskins out though.
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>>2857937
Learning how to program/make/repair those machines and computers.

It's the only way desu. This shit is the same as outsourcing, bunch of third worlders do shit and since they can do shit cheaper than you they get the job and you don't, therefore you should be way more qualified than them.
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Fully automated luxury communism
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A C C E L E R A T E
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>>2857944
instead of competing against them with a significant disadvantage of demanding a living wage, why not train to manage them instead?
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>>2857948
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fPzINdHPjPo
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>>2857937
nationalize the factories and spread the profit from them to the citizens of the nation, obviously

to do this, you need to get rid of liberal capitalism, since liberal capitalism and its open borders ideology will mean you'll have to share the wealth with everyone, not just your citizens, which won't work. moreover, liberal capitalism will mean factory owners very well might build their shit in less efficient countries for the sake of exploiting their labor and environment. the state needs to take a very active role in the economy to avert this.
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The economy would just increase in scale.
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>>2857937
1. Immediate halt to immigration, no exceptions for "refugees" or other reasons.

2. Reconfigure the tax code so expenses on wages are tax deductible, but job-killing machinery is not.
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>>2857975
Management isn't for autists like 4chinners. Also, not everyone can be a manager.
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>>2857989
This would work if your country doesn't depend on high-qualified immigrants. A solution would be to force everyone to get higher qualifications like in communist countries (at least they pretend to do so).
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>>2857937
Ban them. What else?
>inevitability
No, not on my watch.
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>>2857989
>1. Immediate halt to immigration, no exceptions for "refugees" or other reasons.

You are very confused if you think this will somehow save you from automation.
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>>2858009

t. Pol Pot
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>>2857937
Jesus Christ this board really is full of commie luddites.
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>>2857937
>Automation: a few years away since 1781
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>>2858010
What's the point of importing people if they can't get jobs?
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How is capitalism supposed to automate itself out of existence? At some point scrapping the machines and hiring the meat based capital comes out to be cheaper than doing out UBI, right? I'm skeptical of this as much as I look forward to a future of 95% of the population being NEETs.
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>>2857989
>Immediate halt to immigration, no exceptions for "refugees" or other reasons.
Tell that to Japan, the country with the most automation
>2. Reconfigure the tax code so expenses on wages are tax deductible, but job-killing machinery is not.
Oh yeah I'm sure industries are absolutely tripping over themselves to cut production in half and triple the wages of their workers, it reflects very well for the bottom line.
My man this is sad.
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>>2857937
It's an interesting question. I tend to lean more towards free markets, but automation could destroy many more jobs than it creates which could highly destabilize first world countries leading to revolutions. Personally, my preferred solution is universal basic income. Obviously this would require a changing of the tax code and moving certain finds in government spending. Not a perfect solution, but it's better than ignoring technical progress which can lead to stagnation or ignoring people's plights which can lead to revolution.
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>>2858017

If they can't get jobs then they won't "import" themselves. Crippling your labor force by inhibiting its natural flow is only going to speed up automation.
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>>2858024
>hiring the meat based capital comes out to be cheaper than doing out UBI, right
UBI still applies to working folk.
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Let the free market find a solution, obviously.
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Install Linux
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>>2857937

nothing. Once full automation is achieved, the elites will just genocide all the plebs (everyone reading this thread)
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>>2858255
The plebs are more than the elites so if anyone is going to be genocided first it's the elites. You can bully the dregs of society but as soon as you come for the middle class a revolution is going to happen.
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>>2857941
t. nazbol
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>>2858284
>as soon as you come for the middle class a revolution is going to happen.
No it won't. Large sections of the middle class have been under attack from left and right wing policies for a long time, and the working class haven't been getting much slack either. No revolts yet. Unless you count voting for Trump/Brexit etc as really tame revolts, which they kind of are.

>The plebs are more than the elites so if anyone is going to be genocided first it's the elites
Unless the elites have power, like legal, financial, law enforcement, and biological weapons which will hit the masses who live close to eachother a lot quicker than elites who don't and can afford ridiculous bunkers like they've been buying en masse over the last 5-10 years.

>>2857937
UBI will destroy civilisation and lead to at least civil wars, but more likely a world war.
If we get X communism to go with it, the world is especially fucked.
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>>2860360
>Unless you count voting for Trump/Brexit etc as really tame revolts, which they kind of are.
Things haven't hit the fan yet, so you can't expect more than that at this point.

>Unless the elites have power, like legal, financial, law enforcement, and biological weapons which will hit the masses who live close to eachother a lot quicker than elites who don't and can afford ridiculous bunkers
Contrary to popular opinion "the elites" aren't exactly an organised group. And they don't wield a lot of power directly. They have more influence, but the power is still wielded by military, law enforcement, etc. - and these recruit from the common people.
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>>2860398
true on both points, but it only takes a weaponised disease to be released and globalisation will take care of the rest.
And thats just bioweapons. There's a shitload more that can be done you don't want to know about.
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>>2860427
This sounds too much like a conspiracy theory to me. The point is, the 'elites' are not a homogeneous group and most of them are anything but hostile towards the common man. They harbour no interest in eradicating people and don't have the power to do that either - in particular because the 'elites' aren't the ones who control bioweapons. It's common people again who likely would have no interest in killing their family and friends.
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