/his/ videogames thread Am playing Rome Total War and have finally

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>>2851299
I'm playing medieval 2 again , but the AI keeps starting wars against me by blockading a port out of the blue

not to mention the pope is a cocksucker

>>2851299
Anyone else feeling lazy and auto resolving their way through a campaign?

>>2851315
That's the main problem I have with Total War games. I don't know if i'm just too good at them, but after the first few early years, I just start autoresolving everything. I only end up not autoresolving everything when I download shit like the darkmod.

Rome Total War was so fucking fun, its a shame the AI is so god awful
>they keep running endlessly in sieges so you just have to wait for their routing men to return for more
i put over 800 hours into the game, its so goddamn easy compared to all others total war games
if you want to crank it up a bit in difficulty try Barbarian Invasion.
also reecommeend installing Vanilla Balance Mod or Darth Mod to improve the vanilla experience without changing it much. balance mod adds landbridges to make AI expansion in campaign map more realistic

>total war shitters
Just upgrade to superior grand strategies already

for those that dont know, there was 2 TV shows entirely done in the Rome Total War engine.
Decisive Battles and Time Commanders
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cax2vIb22nc
the latter is not very good imo, its the same but letting you "choose" 3 options for each situation as some kind of game show

>>2851481
i wanted to, but it seems like a lot of numbers for very little fun
i like seing 3D battles and stuff, not just managing numbers and all the boring stuff regarding a country

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Currently playing a Portugal campaign in Medieval 2. Ave Maria, we will avenge the brothers who fell to Islam!

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>>2851523
holy shit i forgot the UI was that ugly in Medieval 2. Literally a step back from Rome.

>>2851523
get some javelinmen/almughavars, my man, you won't be disappointed

>>2851313
Stop playing vanilla Medieval 2. Lusted AI actually makes the campaign ai pretty decent. In my Byzantine campaign, I have been allied to the Hungarians for over 125 turns! Various allied blocks form all over the campaign map and the ai isn't overly hostile, and the factions are willing to accept peace if they lose a few provinces.

>>2851523
Take an army down that road south to the riches below. And a fuckload of merchants. Trust me. That's how you get colonial riches prematurely and it will make you financially unstoppable.

>>2851551
I'm pretty sure its inaccessible m8, there's only a city there for ai scripting reasons.

>>2851591
No, that's a real area and it's full of gold. I guess you're not really "supposed" to go there until the ocean opens up, but for whatever reason, it's perfectly possible to march an army and any merchants down that road at any time. It really really shouldn't be, but it's completely possible to send an early medieval army straight down the Sahara and become filthy rich.

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>tfw won spanish civil war as the republic on darkest hour

>>2851591
Just bear in mind that it takes a fairly long time to march all the way down there and you'll need a LOT of merchants to exploit it fully. But it is beyond worth it. Consolidate your position, send merchants first to assess it and then send however big a force you think you need to take it. The city is Timbuktu.

>>2851629
based anon

>playing Medieval 2 as turks
>have a nice start killing byzantium
>egypt won't stop attacking me despite being muslim and me always wanting to be allies
>have to be permanently sucking the pope's dick to not get crusades everytime, still get them
>finally egypt is gone, balkans are mine and crusades can't pass through my defensive line at Costantinople, also got some boats
>now I can fucking slay the pope and have comfyness
>DUDEMONGOLSLMAO

>>2851299
Julli
easy beginning - just unwashed barbabians
medium middle - not so unwashed enemies plus poor as fuck territory
hard end - all your brothers are richer than you and have a better navy

Brutii
hard beginning - dude phalanx lmao
easy middle - all the money
medium end - no better no worse

Scipii
medium beginning - build navy
hard middle - Pontus and Egypt will flood your shit
easy end - best navy, go everywhere and fuck your brothers over

Playing as Ireland in Vicky 2. I wanted to play a fairly realistic game and not blob with colonies, but my factories had an iron shortage and I decided to conquer some niggers rather than allow my economy to collapse. Fucking capitalists building shit that I don't have the resources for. Also Ireland gets GP status very quickly.

>>2851496
You may not have ascended to the level of enjoying something like victoria 2, but you could still enjoy crusader kings 2.
Just don't touch europa universalis

>>2851481
t. liquor factory owner

>>2851758
Janissary militia, dude. They will fuck up mongols. I mean you will still lose castles to them, but they are going to bleed for them, and you will eventually be able to take them back after they have lost 2/3 of their armies trying to kill your janissary spam.

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I hope they don't smear their online bullshit all over the place again.

>>2851313
>the pope is a cocksucker
Send a diplomat to him early game and ask him to be your ally. That will immediately put you at perfect or near perfect papal relations and give you a lot of leeway for ignoring his decrees. So if you don't feel like joining the first crusade no biggie, it's a minor hit to your standing but you're still in his good graces.

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>>2851299

>>2852696
Why the fuck is this series console exclusive? Do they hate money or something?

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>>2851299
>House Julli.
>Vanilla R:TW
Plebeian-tier

http://www.europabarbarorum.com/EB1/
>period authentic languages for each faction
>period authentic units and armor
>incorporates a vast amount of input from actual historians, i.e. what Rome:Total War should have been

You're welcome.

>>2852707
Because PC players may make a big fuss, but most of them just play MOBA's, free games or pirate them.

>>2851315
I prefer the strategic side of the game anyway, plus I don't like the way that TW games do battlefield reinforcements and huge armies are a a pain in the ass trying to micromanage.

>>2852719

I'm pretty sure GTA V sold like 2 million copies within a month of release on PC and had pretty good longevity, so I bet it's still selling copies.

>>2852380
EU is pisspoor easy. It's perfect for absolute beginners to Paradox games.

>>2852736
>It's perfect for absolute beginners to Paradox games
It isn't because it teaches very bad habits that are untenable in other games. Kind of like Prussia in Vicky 2.

Is alpha centauri welcome here?

>>2852748
What bad habits?
>Kind of like Prussia in Vicky 2.
>actually, unironically playing muh GROSSGERMANIUMS

>>2852754
>What bad habits
Blobbing for the sake of it, Economy maintenance, Military use, pop management, etc.

>GROSSGERMANIUMS
Not exactly what I meant, just that playing Prussia in Vicky 2 teaches you really bad habits and thus will slow your actual learning of the game. All it really teaches is how to form union nations (which doesn't take rocket surgery to figure out) and how to hold onto your spherelings (but not WHY you want spherelings or how they work). I honestly never recommend Prussia in Vicky 2 because of that shit.

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>>2852696
RDR is still the best western game in the world, how the hell did they do it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yag41F7eCLU

>>2852750
The philosophy parts are welcome, I guess. Dunno about the rest of it.

>>2852762
I never blob in EU nor in any other game, simply because it ruins my immersion and experience. Even when colonizing i tend to it with systematic approach.

>>2852774
Yeah, but most new players are going to blob in EU. That's just how it goes.

>>2852777
>try to blob across Europe
>big ass coalition forms
>get destroyed, ragequit
That's how it usually goes for new players, unless they're playing France with its doomstacks.

>>2852782
Or Castille. Or Ottomemes. You know, any of the "NEW PLAYERS PICK ME BECAUSE MY COAT OF ARMS IS FLASHING IN GREEN" states.

>>2852786
Yeah i get the Ottoblobs but at least Castille is fun for colonizing games. Whenever i pick them i completely ignore Europe and just do peaceful comfy colonizations instead.

I'm playing Mount and Blade Deus Vult mod. God wills it lads.

>>2852696
>>2852768
>holding back the best rockstar game for pc gamers
JUST

>>2852718
You forgot
>it takes 2 minutes seconds for a peasant surrounded by 3 elite macedonian pikemen to break
>cavalry are useless

>>2851481
>superior
Anon the only GS are Vicky 2 and CK2 pre old gods, the rest don't have actual strategy but mindless blabbing
>>2851758
>being annoyed history happened
Are lad
>>2852380
Eu4 with MEIOU + Taxes 2.0 Beta is GOAT because actual pops
>>2852762
With the above mentioned mod you don't have to blob
>>2852777
And most people are idiots what's your point
>>2852798
>vanilla
>starter nation
>fun
>>2852873
You mean two mili seconds

>>2852910
>mass replying
god these posts are cancer

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>>2852854
>release a port for the XboxOne™
>still leave PC users high and dry
Why do they do this.

>>2852910
>You mean two mili seconds
I meant two minutes, forgot to delete the seconds part

>>2852929
Sorry I don't like waiting five seconds to reply and then doing another captacha
>>2852948
Was this latest patch?

>>2852938
Because Rockstar fucking sucks at ports and they acknowledge that. Their entire stated reason for no RDR port is that it would be too much work and even then they couldn't guarantee it would work properly and thus it would cost them too much for too little gain. 360>Xbone is a pretty simple port. There's no real excuse for RDR2 not to be ported to PC, but I imagine that it's because there was no RDR port.

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>>2852981
I just wanna experience the death of the wild west on PC man

>>2852991
There's always Gun which was RDR before RDR.

Are there any /his/ games that aren't /gsg/ cirklejerks?

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>>2853133
Yeah.

>>2852718
the music on EB is garbage though.

also what avout RTR?

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anyone here tried Codename Panzers ? its pretty good, less arcadey than the other popular WW2 RTS Mem of War
>>2853133
whats /gsg/

I unironically like EU4. Right now I have an extended timeline game going as the Cordoban Caliphate, sitting comfy in Iberia and northwest Africa at 2 speed casually developing and hoarding gold while watching France snap in two over and over due to their salic monarchy.

Once I can colonize it's gonna be a glorious new world. Strongly considering trying to annex Ireland from Wales, who took over all of the British Isles for an even stronger foothold on the colonization game.

>bleed all game keeping the Franks out of Iberia and the Byzantines out of Africa
>Abassid caliphate allies can't handle a single byzantine army rampaging through the Levant and cedes land when it was their fucking invasion

>>2852707
RDR in particular would have been on PC if the code hadn't been such a mess.

Not just a mess, a truly abhorrent fucking mess.
It's why so many bugs weren't fixed. Fixing a bug created 10 more.

Truly held together by skin.

>>2853746
Extended timeline is weird.

An Irish British Isles fighting an almost entirely Suomi europe.

>>2851313
>the AI keeps starting wars against me
Have a strong army and grant military access.

>>2853133
AGEod

so this is where /twg/ ran to after the warcraft faggots took over and started posting their shitty campaigns and asking basic questions because warhammer is obviously their first tw game.s

>>2854124
40k* faggots sorry I get my normie nerd culture mixed up sometimes.

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>>2851523
Portugal has godlike pikemen in late period. Overlap two units of pikemen : whenever they drop their pikes re-order them to form the 'spear wall' and they become unstoppable, it's funny how strong it makes them, even against dismounted knights.

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Any Panzer Corps fans here?

>>2851299
Try Roma Surrectum II

>>2851313
Started it again but playing the Britannia campaign as Ireland. Just managed to take down the last major English army and currently besieging their last stronghold in Ireland.

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Europa Barbarorum 2 is coming along very nicely, it was almost unplayable in its first version.

EB2 is a Rome era mod for Medieval 2 total war, designed specifically with historical accuracy in mind, its great.

Total war fagz

>>2854202
It never worked on my PC for some reason, could you compare it to Roma Surrectum II?

>>2851299
Rise of Nations was dope.
Too bad it has some problems in today's S.O

>>2854207
go back to /twg/ you can have it you won.

Literally nobody else wants to talk about the worst total war game in the franchise

Day of Infamy / Verdun are pretty fun

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I wholeheartedly recommend Hegemony III, its Civilization in real time and with a zoom mode that goes seamlessly from a worldmap to a ground view. Its all about the battle for Italy between the early groups of italian and greek tribes and cities.

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Anyone else think that Total War has run its course as a historical warfare game?

I'd love to see someone take a new approach to huge historical battles. There are so many elements that could be added to the equation. Proper deployment, supply trains, wounded soldiers, and so on.

Imagine if battles were preceded by proper skirmishes and scouting actions to define the grounds of battle. Would be sweet.

>>2854240
and Warband with the 1257 AD mod, for when you feel like saving the Latin Empire of Constantinople.

>>2854256
Anon, I hate to tell you this, but TW was never a historical warfare game. It was just an RTT larping as one.

>>2854274
Ach I know, I meant it in the sense of a game centred mostly around large battles.

>>2854285
>I meant it in the sense of a game centred mostly around large battles
It isn't even that.

>>2854170
I loved the Panzer General series

>>2854224
>worst total war game in the franchise
Please, we will always have Shogun Total War (the first)

the Imperium universalis mod for eu4 is the best thing i have ever played.

>>2854574
>hating on Shogun 1
top pleb
Worst is clearly Empire. Not even mods fixed that turd, followed closely by Rome 2.

>>2854574
You take that back.

>>2854581
Is it playable? I hate unfinished or buggy mods. I want to have fun not bug test some free software for some nerds on internet modding forums.

>>2851523
That map looks nice whenever I played it crappy factions like milan and denmark would btfo factions like France and Holy Roman Empire which I found stupid

>>2854586
Nice memes faggot. You parrot what others say about movies too?

>>2854604
Tell me how Empire and Rome 2 arent the worst games in the series

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Total War: Attila is great, especially with all the medieval mods

>>2854651
How are they the worst? You can't come in here with neckbearded rage and not say WHY they sucked. I admit both had shitty releases but were patched to be really damn good. I agree with other guy that Shogun was prob weakest and thats prob only because its the first of the series.

>>2854655
Agreed, Atilla and Shogun 2 are too tier total war

Are there any games that aren't related to military history?

>>2854703
Historical good game? No.

>>2853772
I like it, it's refreshing. I do think they could have the option to enable and disable catastrophic events that make it more historically accurate, though.

The modifiers and events to force the fall of Rome was really good, even if it creates some awful border gore, they should expand that into other parts of the world at different times.

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>Poland
>Black eagle

>>2853574
You found Codename Panzers less arcadey than Men of War? Wow. Anyway, >>>/vg/gsg

>>2854660
>How are they the worst?
well, let me begin
>Empire
Shitty AI that still hasn't been fixed, buggy land battles, that are just absolutely boring to play. Sieges are broken, with AI attacking you then just camping out outside the fort because it's literally too retarded to attack.
All factions have the same units just with a different color palette. France is one fucking province.
The only thing going for it is the period and scale.

I admit I haven't played enough of Rome 2 to make an objective review but I remember I got bored very quickly and just went back to Rome 1 mods.

>>2854660
I still play Empire because it's the only game of its kind about that era, but it is objectively the worst Total War :

-Sieges are broken and unrealistic. It's so bad that some people have made a mod that entirely removes forts.
-Unjustified minimal variety of units in the early period, have to play 50 turns of Campaign before getting access to decent cavalry and artillery.
-Have to unlock things that should be present from start on, both from a gameplay and a historical perspective.
-No quick shortcut for melee mode like in precedent games : Melee is toggle only, better not forget that in the midst of battle...
-Cavalry kills itself in sharp turns and charges, I see it all the time.
-Forget about boarding : when the crew jumps in a smaller ship, they fall and die.
-Infantry in Square does not reload.
-If using a cover, a wall or a building, only a very small fraction of the unit shoots
-Most often, infantry on walls doesn't shoot
-No prisoners.
-No speech.
-Assassins are a joke.

Finally, Empire introduced the new engine that treats melee combat as 1on1 scripted duels only, where individual troops who aren't yet matched to a duel will wait their turn patiently.

>>2854703
Civilization if you play as a pacifist with neighboring pacifist civs

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>>2851299
Playing as EU4 and finally formed Britain as Scotland after 15 RNG induced failures

Feels fucking fantastic desu

>>2854655
>medieval mods

Tell me about these mods, I'd like a good medieval mod that's better than Medieval 2 total war.

>>2854720
What a shame, I'm honestly fed up with battle simulators and grand strategy.

>>2854790
>I'm honestly fed up with battle simulators
How ? They are very rare, especially for pre-modern eras.

>>2854212
>could you compare it to Roma Surrectum II?

Sorry, haven't played that one.

>>2854795
They're the only games discussed. I guess they're good, but is there something else?

What features do Rome 1 and medieval II have that rome 2 and atilla don't? I see people complaining about how the later games have been dumbed down but they never really go into details. I understand that there were problems at launch with Rome II especially, but are they really worse than their predecessors, or is that just contrarian /v/-faggotry?

What would people like to see next?

A game based from 1500-1700 would be great, the reformation, ottomans, colony's etc it's definitely the most interesting period, for me anyway

>>2854808
Population management. Need to populate your large city with all the good barrack? Make an army of peasants in your other regions, bring them all to your good city, disband them there and artificially bump up your population. Is your capital too crowded? Raise an army of peasants and disperse them across your kingdom.

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>>2854703
>>2854806
I understand your lassitude, I get fed up with all the Paradox threads too. Here are some new things :

Uncharted Waters
East India Company
Caesar III, Pharaoh
The Anno series : https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anno_(series)

from the top of my mind

>>2854825
Is that it?

I hate warscape engine.
It just doesn't work for melee combat.
But honestly all TW games are trash.
They only get good when autists spend years to make mods (EB, Stainless Steel)

>>2854825
Can you do that in Medieval 2 ?

>>2854825
is this true? Why after years of playing TW I'm just finding about this? Finally i can get some use out of those backwater villages.

>>2854256
>still no Three Kingdoms setting
>no 30 Years War setting
>no Medieval 3 with fully updated mechanics and engine
There's still more than can do. But I wouldn't mind some non-Warhammer fantasy from them too.

>>2854820
It could be GOAT and would set the gap between Medieval and Empire nicely

>>2851299
darkest hour, a red orchestra mod, is one of the greatest games ever.

>>2854859
>darkest hour, a red orchestra mod
Funny, there's a Hearts of Iron mod called Darkest Hour.

>>2851591
You actually can get there. The coast doesn't work, but there's a narrow path through the desert that you can take. The only threat you will ever have to deal with down there is heretics.

>>2854753
>>2854773

Thats the kind of analysis I like to see

>>2854825
I never knew you could do this. Medieval 2 has so many hidden features in it, fuck.

>>2854863
Darkest hour seems like a pretty common saying, at least with respect to the second world war.

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Fact: RO2 is the best WWII game

>>2854863
yeah? any screeming americans in there? or angry russians?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uf1Vm-TZ6dU

>>2854859
this, even though I liked vanilla Ostfront more
DH is completely based

>>2854921
it is 100% inferior as a sequel to Ostfront in every single way.

>>2854829
Including what that guy said:

You cannot recruit or move armies anywhere without a general or admiral, your amount of generals is limited.

Autoresolve is borked. You can defeat an army that would demolish you in battle, but regardless of that, having more units in total makes you win the autoresolve easily.

AI makes stupid decisions, armies with almost nothing but some random unit, like catapults.

Some small AI will declare war, sail to the other end of the world, seek out the one spot far away from your armies and attack, and even if you defeat them they won't peace out.

Whenever some tiny settlement revolts it spawns expensive elite high-tech units and large onagers, beyond what you're able to aquire yourself. All this against your shitty small garrison of cheap un-teched units.

etc.

>>2853149
what game?

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>>2853133
What about naval circlejerks?

>>2854258
Warband + Total War + CK2 + autistic historical detail when?

>>2854826
>Caesar III, Pharaoh

My nigga. City builders are pretty much dead as a genre but Impressions did some of the best.

>>2854995
Looks like ARMA 3 with the Invasion 1944 mod.

>>2851299
Play Carthage and the Seleucids, they're the most fun in Rome I

>>2855018
I heard Rule The Waves was pretty amazing, but very hard.Is this true?

>>2855018
Fantastic game, I think the developer is making a sequel.

>>2855063
I would say its just hard to get into, as you have to learn how to design your ships.

>>2851758
>be Danes
>fuck up HRE with Polebros and Francebros
>kick England off the Mainland
>fuck up othr Norsemen
>start fucking up England
>France backstabs me
>Poles stick by me
>fuck up France
>Mongols invade Poland
>I'm busy so do very little
>the push straight through until Poland has like 2 cities
>I start attacking Mongols and takes Stettin, Thorne, and some others
>turn Thorne into a citadel
>put best general there
>destroy literally a bajillion Mongol armies
>Poles are still stuck in Krakow
>eventually their AI makes them do something
>literally only options are attacking me or Hungary (both of us are allies)
>they attackHungary and lose
>they attack me and lose
>I take their remaining territories
At least I got to put them out of their misery ;_;

>>2855018
Great game

>>2854788
the screenshot is from MK 1295 which is a fun mod if a little easy if you play as one of the major factions. then for early medieval there's Age of Charlemagne and Age of Vikings

>>2855104
Age of Charlemagne is miles better than the regular Attila but I still despise the city management and speed of the battles. Like I think the battle system is really well balanced, especially compared to regular Attila where whoever kept some cavalry to the end won but the armies still die off way too fast and the reliance on combat bonuses is a little too Arcady for my taste. The city management is awful but I never really cared much for that in the old ones either. The diplomacy is improved in the sense you can make contact quickly with anyone you know and can see how they feel about you but some of it is still retarded (two separate Irish kingdoms sailed literally half of their population to kill me (Mercia) multiple times and I never even talked to them before that) but it's not quite as crazy as before

>>2852750
Alpha Centauri best Sid Meiers game.

>>2855154
It is the only game that actually makes sense for a bunch of random groups to start off with a colonist.

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>Start first ever Shogun 2 campaign, pick Ikko Ikki cause I want to fight for meritocracy and freedom from the oppressive samurai class
>Really go out of my way to get into it, imagine all the battles and roleplay as the leader, even assigning motivations and shit the game doesn't give you
>Pretty good at defending once I got my shit together but only ever win assaults by sheer numbers.
>Conquer large area in the centre of the map.
>Bad on attack so I needed to recruit tonnes of soldiers to do this.
>Here's the biggest problem.
>I have NO IDEA how to plan an economy
>This is exacerbated by the building and maintenance costs of so many soldiers.
>Provinces start to rebel because of poor economic planning. They're buddhist rebels so I can't help but see them as freedom fighters.
>But here's the thing.
>We are surrounded on all sides by samurai societies. If we don't stick together we are weak, they'll sweep in and put the lot of us back in chains.
>In light of this, anything is justified.
>Start brutally suppressing all dissent, no mercy.
>Retain land but my hands are bloody.
>AIs forming into stronger, larger empires as they fight.
>They notice me, see I'm an existential threat to their existence. Former enemies team up into a massive alliance to take me down. Decide that these guys are particularly evil and ruthless, even for samurais. Might actually kill us all rather than re-enslave us
>Suffer crushing defeats, lose ground, entire 2500 strong armies lost
>MASSIVE last stand in a fort, it's this or nothing.
>Actually win.
>Have the initiative, start pushing back.
>A few more victories and the alliance is practically defensive, gain loads of territory and land, wipe them all out. Now control almost all of the east of the map.

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>>2855195
>Rebellions break out but I'm used to it-crush them mercilessly.
>However, there are still many massive powers to the West. I'm bordering the Kyoto and the Shogunate don't like me one bit, and they all have reason to want me destroyed. Game tells me as much in prompt. They stop fighting and mostly become allies.
>Land I control is secure enough, so I start piling more and more troops up at Kyoto border. See, I need enough troops to not only beat Kyoto in autoresolve, but have enough troops left over to deal with another inevitable grand alliance against me.
>Never seems like enough troops, just keep piling 'em on the border.
>AI has the same problem. They attack me, they can't stand up to the counterattack. I attack them, I can't stand up to their counterattack.
>So we just eye eachother suspiciously across the border.
>Constantly on the verge of rebellion because of troop costs.
>But the west must fall so that freedom can be brought to the world and...
>...oh
>...oh god.
>I'm the Soviet Union

>>2854773
melee is only locked if you use plug bayonets, which can't be removed because they're literally shoved down the barrel of the gun. Otherwise spot on analysis, though I will admit there were some parts I definitely enjoyed.

>>2855035
>>2854995
Its Graviteam Tactics.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ukl34Xvt8Ms

Are there any games where I can play as the Taiping Heavenly Kingdom? I've been reading about them and want to reenact them fucking up the Qing, does anything satiate this autism?

>>2855283
there's a Chinese mod for medieval 2, that's all I know I never actually played it. Don't expect the kind of quality the EB guys have though

>>2854921
WW2 shooters are pretty sucky
realistic shooters is such a crappy concept to begin with
>>2854744
men of war had those field upgrades like making tank accessories pop out of nowhere and add men to a squad making them materialize from nothingness. Men of War is similar to Warhammer 40k games in that way. thats why i meant by arcade.

>>2855283
Victoria 2 with mods

>>2854826
Caesar 3 was great, but way too autistic in victory conditions / buildings into higher classes.

>>2855303
>WW2 shooters are pretty sucky
>realistic shooters is such a crappy concept to begin with
ummm no sweetie

>>2855307
talex

>>2852707

lol eat shit pcpleb

Who /Kaiserreich/ here?

>>2854834
>>2854835
It works in Rome 1, but I haven't tried it in medieval 2

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Gonna bring back the Paradox jerk off real quick. This is my first playthrough as Italy and its quickly becoming my favorite campaign so far.

>Started as Naples
>Fucked Aragon at the start, taking Sicily, and their islands during a couple wars.
>Through smart diplomacy, and well timed wars, take control of Italy slowly but surely,
>Eventually manage to make the Papal State my vassal.
>Savoy was my last real blocker as they held Milan and Genoa.
>Have a perfect timed war and fuck them and Urbino, taking the last provinces needed.
>Core them, and then Annex Roma crowning myself the leader of Italy and converting from Naples to Italy.
>Random wars after this for different things, the most notable a war in which I forced a Personal Union on Castille, and managed to take Cuba from Portugal

Now in the present. I am allied with Muscovy, Austria, and Hungary. The Ottomans are in sharp decline with Muscovy, the Commonwealth, and I racing for as much of their land as possible. I really want to fuck Commonwealth and I want Constantinople bad but these fucks are allied with the goddamn Chinese. What do /his/?

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>>2855020
>ywn field a full roster of cavalry

Mount & Blade Napoleonic Wars is pretty good.

>>2854829
That was just off the top of my head, now that I'm off work I can think of more. My experience is with Rome 1, I don't know how many of these apply to medieval 2.

You can create as many armies as your budget can allow without stacking costs, or needing a general. This makes defending border towns easy because you just slap a 20 stack of cheap balanced units to make the enemy bleed hard for every battle, especially if there were walls.

You could artificially tech up to good buildings at the beginning of the game with barbarian factions like the hauls by sailing across the Mediterranean and taking mesopotamian and anatolian cities from the seleucids, I did a briton exodus campaign, made my home in galatia, and could instantly recruit chosen swords and overrun everything early on.

You can play as unintended factions by editing the text files of the game, you can even play as rebel factions. There was a guy on /v/ a few years back that did a slave campaign on Rome , he got some Jewish zealot rebels randomly and sent them in to try and seize Alexandria from the egyptians, and got slaughtered.

Cataphract units in Rome 1 had a secondary weapon that you could make them use in combat, they were basically makes and they had bonus armor penetratio ln which made cataphracts decent in melee combat for horsemen

Horse archers had the cantabrian circle formation where they would move in a circle and take less missile damage, still could kite, but had the cost of fatiguing the horses faster. It was a good defensive tool against infantry archers.

There were some neat cheat codes in Rome 1, the code 'oliphaunt' or whatever could spawn in mumakil from lord of the rings for giggles.

>>2854834
>>2855472
It only works in Rome 1, sadly.

>>2855581
Man I'm nostalgia'ing hard over Rome 1. I remember defending a bridge against 3 Roman armies with half stack of berserker as the Germanic tribes, those fucking madmen got gold chevron experience levels in that one battle from how many legionnaires got fuckin slaughtered

>>2855195
>>2855200
Nice read, I appreciate your autism. Have a (you)

>>2854808
The traits and ancillaries system was far more extensive.

>>2855491
>1694
>Novgorod exists
how

>>2854224
Whats /twg?

>>2855581
Couldn't the amazons get an oliphant as well?

Been trying to play Black Ice Hearts of iron 3. Any help on how to install?

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rate this flowchart for anyone wanting to get into total war
>>2855678
Total War General, in /vg/
>>2854586
Attila > Rome 2
Napoleon > Empire
takes a 2nd try to get things right it seems

what dlc in total war attila is worth getting?

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No one here mentioning the best /his/ game of all time

Is Total Warhammer the best Total War game?

>>2855811
empires of sand and age of charlemagne

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>>2855811
Age of charlemagne.
look up the different campaigns it has
Got Attila with charlemagne for just 12€ in one of those shady key selling sites, allkeyshop or something

>>2855653
They are in a PU with Muscovy for some stupid reason.

>>2855815
Fuck the mighty cockroach and his whore wife.

The ai is so god-awful at diplomacy in m: tw.
Like, every game i play as england I absolutely have to delete Norway or they will besiege random provinces of mine costing me money and trops (to move around).
Positive side is that it makes wiping out factions a lot more enjoyable and satisfying.

Playing Attila. Completed AoC as Charlemagne but can't seem to get a Grand Campaign to keep me interested.

Someone give me a faction to play as and why that faction.

>>2855950
Caliphate of Cordoba
it makes for some pretty interesting campaign, its hard because of your religion but you get 100% more profits from client states

>>2855811
Age of Charlemagne for sure

>>2855824
I've played every Total War game since Rome 1 and I refuse to ever buy/play Warhammer. I play TW games because I love history, not some obscure fantasy universe.

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>>2854826
Emperor: rise of the middle kingdom in an underrated game

Basically pharoh or caesar but in china

How do I get into EU4? Played it some as France the yellow southern indian kingdom and Pre-Siam or whatever, and it was fun for a few years until it felt like every five minutes either my legitimacy or corruption or stability or some other abstract meter would crumble. Why is it so abstract compared to other paradox games?

>>2855200
Nice

>>2856119
Eu4 focuses on balancing geopolitics with warfare, half the fun us maintaining your realm while picking alliances apart, the diplomacy AI in Eu4 is much better than total war's. It's not as hard as intensively political intrigue games like crusader kings 2, nor is EU4 as intensive on micromanaging as Victoria 2, not is EU4 as autistic about warfare as Hearts of Iron, it's a sweet, casual balance of the three.

The events you got might be bad luck, that's just what happens sometimes in history, but it's interesting and far less one dimensional than total war games and other similar strategy games.

>>2856119
>>2856208
To actually address your question: the abstract modifiers usually make intuitive sense via color coding or context in the event description or straight up being defined if you can find it. They are niche because ruling a kingdom isn't easy. In fact, EU4 isn't realistic in how you run a realm because you control basically everything, back then you couldn't really extend your power like that as a monarch, there's the chance that the man you send to do your will is incompetent or corrupt.

That aside, the most important things for you to focus on is keeping your economy healthy, keeping stability at 0 or 1, and saving your monarch points to keep up in technologies. The modifiers don't really matter until you have a grasp on the basics. For example, the game doesn't tell you what mercantilism is at all, but you can tell that if you get more it's good due to how the number is highlighted green.

EU4 isn't an easy game to get into, b it if you make the effort to learn from what happened , maybe watch a basic tutorial, you might become addicted. I rage quit EU4 after getting my as fucked as Ming because I didn't understand tech or warfare. I picked it back up a couple months later, and now I have 1600 hours on it.

>>2854581
I'm having a lot of fun with Common Universalis, you should try it.

>>2855985
Is it as deep as pharaoh?

>>2856321
Same thing.

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>>2856340
Then why had i never heard about it?

>>2856367
possibly lack of advertising, also china isn't as popular as rome, egypt or greece in the west.

i had never heard of it either until it was on sale last year, and i enjoy it as much as any of it's predecessors. it's just like the others before it - same game with improvements.

>>2855084
>Play as Danes
>want to be peaceful, start getting trade agreements and making alliances
>HRE breaks trade agreement and besieges Hamburg
>crush their armies and drive them back
>they won't agree to truce
>they mass many soldiers on my borders
>build up my own armies and crush theirs one after another
>they still want to fight
>besiege Magdeburg and take it
>still won't surrender
>conquer Frankfurt, their capital, next
>still won't agree to truce
>I'm overextended now and don't have money to build more armies, so I stall out the war by just defending my borders from their constant waves of shitty peasant stacks
>like 30 turns of this until they finally agree to a truce due to losing wars against Poland and Hungary (wars they started of course)
>I demand Prague as reparations
>they give it to me
>after 5 turns of peace they besiege Prague and Magdeburg
>fight yet another grueling war that lasts for 20+ turns, end up losing Prague but conquering Nuremberg, and building up several very strong armies to retake Prague and sweep over their southern holdings
>Pope decides now is the time to intervene
>the penalty for disobedience was Excommunication so I listened (I'd disobeyed him several times prior to this since the last several Popes were only elected due to Danish Cardinal support, giving me a lot of pull with the Papacy)
>pull back my armies like a good boy
>HRE sees this as weakness and attacks Nuremberg and Magdeburg again
>they get excommunicated
>finally
>retake Prague in 1 turn, sweep down on Innsbruck and Staufen, taking both very quickly
>now I have a large doomstack on the road to Vienna, and another massing in the Alps to march down on Bologna
Soon the world will be free of the g*rman menace. It's really telling that I only continued to make friends and acquire alliances while at war with the HRE, literally nobody likes them.

>>2854256
I'd love a series that focuses on Ancient/Medieval campaigns with lots of skirmishing encounters and battles that last for days over the course of several engagements. Less RTS and more like those Gettysburg/Waterloo games. Maybe even a little Kessen 1.

I decided to play a game of Empire Total War for nostalgic purposes. Decided to play as the United Provinces and take a peaceful mercantile approach.

>Kill off pirate fleets and take a portion of the Caribbean
>Establish my own prosperity sphere
>Promptly get declared on by France
>I have the UK on my side but still get btfo in the Caribbean
>Sue for peace
>Build up an army and wait
>The French try again in a few years, this time they bring Spain along with them
>I took a few Indian provinces so I have a steady income to finance my military
>I've been stealing/buying so much tech
>I have weapons from the far future compared to the French/Spanish
>Hold the Spanish off in Flanders while taking back the Caribbean
>tfw when this was supposed to be a pacifist run
>tfw you have South/Central American natives mining silver for you in the mountains of your new empire
>tfw the British are actually useful and take all of North America in the name of Queen and country
>I go and capture Spain before surrounding France
>France has been really goddamn annoying this playthrough
>I take their last province and burn everything
>Then I let them revolt and reform their nation
>Then I take it from them again and burn everything again
>And again
>and again

And then France pretty much no longer exists so I gave them to the British and am letting them and their armies fight the endless guerrilla war in the bombed out ashes of Paris.

All in all the game went pretty good.

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>>2856403

>>2852191
>not so unwashed enemies plus poor as fuck territory

not really? as Julii you can take all of Iberia in a breeze and get a rich, safe place to farm your wealth, taking Gaul afterwards is nothing at that point you're unstoppable.

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>Play EU4 as Miqmaq
>Wander around and war with my neighbors for loot until I get lots of money and mana
>start settling tribes in other provinces, but keep mostly to the Taqamkuk area I started in
>Occasionally war with Iroqouis and Delaware, but mostly peaceful
>Make a vassal out of Cree, send them money so they start settling too
>continue peacefully developing my provinces, end up pretty rich
>now 1600 A.D.
>Norway lands in Maine, in the space between me and Iroquois
>Delaware moves into the province between me and them
>Delaware gets BTFO
>I am happy about this
>"Norway is a weaker power, maybe I can hold them off long enough to reform!"
>They BTFO Iroquois, conquer them entirely in one war
>Colonial nation forms
>I start to get worried
>Form alliances with other natives, go way over my forcelimit
>Stop sending Cree subsidies
>They still attack me
>Narrowly defeat the 6,000 colonial troops
>I have no boats so I just sit and wait for warscore to tick up and reinforcements to come
>24,000 soldiers land in my capital
>Attack them with my allies, total of 45,000 soldiers
>We get dismantled
>They carpet siege, and take all 7 of my provinces in the peace
>I never stood a chance

Is this how it felt?

>>2851758
>>egypt won't stop attacking me despite being muslim and me always wanting to be allies

>Turkroach
>Muslim
Go back to Mongolia you Turk

>>2855977
They are making another historical title so calm down.

>>2856527
Don't feel bad anon. They'll probably be we wuzzing about your empire even centuries into the future.

>>2854256
>Anyone else think that Total War has run its course as a historical warfare game?


see, i'd agree with that, but there's still nothing that does what TW does just right, nor anyone wants to due to the niche nature of the genre and the way things are in the industry right now. Total War, its pedigree as a franchise and it's relevance are the only thing that keeps the genre being "a thing" in the grand scheme of things.

>I'd love to see someone take a new approach to huge historical battles. There are so many elements that could be added to the equation. Proper deployment, supply trains, wounded soldiers, and so on.

and that's what's wrong with TW, they never really recovered more and more detailed game mechanics they lost from M1, let alone include new ones. The campaigns are still stale because all you do is move armymen in the map, click to build things you will rarely ever see and balance percentage counters with abstract clicking of more buttons. The battles have changed way too little too, with only marginal increases in scale and supplies, manouvers and terrain being literally up to dicerolls, giving you only the most shallow tacitical options within the battle itself.

>>2855303
>>WW2 shooters are pretty sucky
>realistic shooters is such a crappy concept to begin with

what's wrong with you

Shooters as a genre are only good in two extremes: balls to the wall arena bunny hopping wuxia kung fu with guns, and autistic PTSD-triggering firefight simulators. Anything in between just isn't worth it, takes no skill nor rewards tactics and cool nerves.

>>2855977
>obscure
The setting of a game from the largest miniatures wargaming company by a huge margin, with a long history of video games, awful pulp novels in many bookshops, it might be obscure in a relative sense next to LoTR or GoT but I wouldn't call it obscure full stop.

>>2855985
I loved this game. Never played any city builder set in Asia so it was great.

Is there some type of recommendations image for /his/ games or do we have to make one?

>>2856587
People always talk up simulation shooters and muh cooperation, but I've played games that people say those things about. Insurgency, Verdun, Red Orchestra, even fucking Battlefield has people say "you have to cooperate with your team" yet every one of them plays exactly the same, with people just running around in a sort of Brownian motion, ignoring their teammates and sometimes getting into a quick-draw contest with an enemy. Is there any game that's set up as a simulation where players in pickup games will actually treat it as a simulation?

>>2856598
>Is there any game that's set up as a simulation where players in pickup games will actually treat it as a simulation?
Insurgency, Verdun, Red Orchestra, Battlefield, modded Arma but you have to find a dedicated group or friends to play with because public servers are filled with 13 year olds.

>>2856598
>"you have to cooperate with your team" yet every one of them plays exactly the same, with people just running around in a sort of Brownian motion, ignoring their teammates and sometimes getting into a quick-draw contest with an enemy.

first, if you want a guaranteed team experience you should just join a clan, second, you tend to fare better when you stick to your team mates and your team mates that are not retarded will want to stick close to you in return, the retards fight alone and die alone, go where everyone is going and do the job your class is supposed to do, nobody is that autistic to mantain infantry formations or clean rooms like a SWAT team in a chaotic meat grinder like RO2, and it wouldn't make sense for the time anyway.

>>2856596
I don't think we do. I guess we should try making one.

>>2856623
cont.

also what this anon said >>2856621, they're pubbies, they're literal conscript/partisan tier cannon fooder.

>>2854256
>scouting actions

And then we can follow that up with some flanking actions and combat actions until our enemies take a retreat action oorah tenfour charlie down

>>2856587
arena shooters are pretty fun indeed.
anything attempting to be realistic just doesnt work for me

realism works in flight sims, race sims, driving sims....
in shooters realism isnt fun imo.

>>2856587
that WOULD explain why GunZ was so fucking popular
>tfw couldn't k-style
>tfw just got really good at aiming
>gun people down with machine guns as they tried to close the gap
>they get extremely butthurt

>>2854820
I would love to see a Paradox Grand Strategy set in modern or Cold War era. I know Supreme Ruler: Cold War exists but its just plain 'meh'. I think Paradox Development Studio could do something awesome.

I could see Total War attempting it, but would have to make drastic changes to gameplay. For example, battles would be something like the Wargame series' battles.

>Rome Total War
>learn to micro Cavalry
>never lose a single battle

Rome/Medieval 2 > Shogun 2 > shit > Napoleon = Rome 2 > complete shit > Empire

Never played Shogun or Medieval 1
I hate gunpowder total wars

>playing M2 as Scotland
>defending against the English after they declared war on me
>defeat their first army
>Pope sends me a message telling me to stop attacking my Christian brothers
>defend myself against England's next assault
>excommunicated for breaking the promise to the Pope
Fucking faggot, fuck the Pope

>>2856742
AI in total war games are always and will always be tragically incompetent at everything including reading into context

At least paradox games do it in an okay manner

>tfw ages ago you identified key rebel held cities that would trigger other factions to declare war on you if you took them in Medieval 2

Wish I remembered what they were

>>2856403
If you exterminate the Germs, Poortuguese, or Milanese in M2TW you are only doing the world favors

>>2855404
t. sonygger

>>2856757
I'm 100% sure Strasbourg is one. I literally because allies with the HRE one turn, took Stras from under them the next turn, and then three turns later they attacked me.

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Pic related is underrated shooter. Just because you get to fight in some underrated Cold War-era conflicts like Angola and Nicaragua

>>2856715
A Swedish-based dev would make it a literal leftist propaganda, white-washing the Comecon of all the dumb shit they've done. Or at least sympathized them.

>>2856736
i dislike gunpowder too. Shogun 2 FoTS broke online for Shogun 2 since you were forced to fight against completely OP modern units even if you didnt have the DLC.
i wouldnt put rome so far up. i love it but the AI is pretty shit and its extremelly easy once you get the hang of it. the thing i liked the most is its simplicity

>>2852873
>an era without stirrups where western cavalry is dogshit at anything much.
Lance armed cavalry like the xystophoroi, parhian cataphracts etc are extremely good at causing units to route. The rule of thumb is that if your cavalry holds weapons overhand they have good melee skills but bad charges because of the way animatons work

Brihentinns are literal knights. I remember taking Massalia early in one rome playthrough and creating a client state there to recruit Brihentinn. Another 50 years and they had become my primary cavalry in the empire.

>>2854124
>>2854127
>He doesn't post gaeros and type >Buzz Buzz Buzz
shamefur dispray

>>2854256
total war was always a loosely history based game. The most period authentic ones are unironically rome 2 and Attila.
>>2854212
The campaign end is fucking awesome. If you play as the greeks and have a metropolis, every 4 years you can send out a colonist to a newly conquered land to colonize it by building a military settler colony and eventually branch into either a greek city or a fortified town.

The government system also depends on the religion system from medieval 2 and allows you to slowly change a population's culture over time.

One of my most favorite thing to do in that game is to play as the baktrians and make transoxania slowly greek throughout the years as I fend off barbarians and slowly try to expand into India. Once the seleucids and parthians declared war on me and had forced me to abandon my holdings on both sides of the oxus. As a result I had to run away to india, spend the next 50 years slowly becoming indianised (My ruling population slowly became more indianized and heterogeneous) and my units took on a very indian flavor with longbowmen armies with a very small core of greco indian peltasts and hoplites that formed a sort of royal guard.

After a while I emerged from the mountain to reconquer those lands as a Raja, not as a satrap.

>>2854663
*top

>>2854880
you couldn't. It was something to do in rome 1 and it was too fucking gamey.

>>2854830
>le engine expert.
CA has changed their engine twice over and melee works fine in total war. I swear mike simpson keeps the name warscape just to fuck with the Autists on TWCenter.net

>>2856746
t. johan

>>2854863
Can't wait until they bring Mare Nostrum content over, 4 different fronts in one game

>>2852768
All the rest are really mediocre or bad, there's nothing special about RDR. The only real competitors are Oregon Trail, and Fistful of Frags.
Also RDR has possibly the least realistic weapons I've ever seen in anything pretending to be a historical game:
>S&W No. 3 doing more damage than a Colt SAA
>Volcanic pistol does more damage than both
>Spencer carbine does less damage than a Winchester, which does less damage than a Henry
>Evans Repeater can be topped off
>LeMat is break open and the shotgun barrel can't be used
>Mauser is fully automatic in the 19th century
>Trapdoor Springfield hold 4 rounds
it's basically unforgiveable

>>2856119
Because it's bad.
Colonizing is the only fun thing in this game

>>2857024
>fun
>don't need any ships or naval resources at ALL and become le ebin colonial power coexisting with le natives.

On the other hand M&T 2 is pretty great at the peaceful stuff.

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>>2851534

>Choosing the "I am a massive pussie who doesn't want a challenge" AI option in SS.

>>2852691

Janissaries suck asshole you noob, ever heard of the two handed glitch?

>>2856887
I try to believe that they would be impartial and balanced as possible. But you're more than likely right though....

>>2855950

Get Sedibees Roster overhaul.

>>2856887
Actually, after reading this, I don't think they're that bad because I remember that the only way to purge your own people in Stellaris was to be hard left or full-on communist. So, I think they're ok in that respect.

Also if what you say is true then all EU4 would be is giant white guilt simulator. Which is far from the truth considering it has an actual button to commit genocide whenever you feel like it. I think it summed up the thoughts and ideals of the time without pressing any political views.

>>2855303
>men of war had those field upgrades like making tank accessories pop out of nowhere and add men to a squad making them materialize from nothingness. Men of War is similar to Warhammer 40k games in that way. thats why i meant by arcade.
you mean company of heroes?

>>2854934
No because it's a real time strategy game

>>2857116
yeah CoH, thanks for reminding me of the actual name haha

>>2857010
>>Mauser is fully automatic in the 19th century
RDR takes place in 1911 you nerd

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>>2852380

>>2857106
Umm in Stellaris there is nothing about lwftism or the right.

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>>2853133
Yeah, Day of Infamy

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>Tfw playing Blackice HOI4 Multiplayer with 2 friends
> On the gates of Moscow
>Entirety of Europe Occupied
>Britain now fascist and aiding me
>America joins the war and Communist Itally betrays the non aggression pact and peacefull co-existance plans
>Entire southern front exposed
> Fight on 4 Fronts
>We just took a break
>1946 and Only Northern Germany+Denmark+Southern Norway and the Netherlands is under my control
>Last line of defense in Berlin is Militia Volkssturm armed with foreign equipment and SS PanzerGrenadier Divisions
>I dont have time to get my fortress divisions out of Norway before the Soviets reach berlin
>All hope is lost

Blackice truly makes that piece of shit game worth playing

>>2855985
Great, thank you, I'll try it !

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>>2855653
As it should be.

>>2856598
I played a bit of RO2 online, and success all comes down to squad and team leaders and coordination of assaults. Squad leaders need to do their part, staying safe, telling their squat to hold back, and then popping smoke so their squad can move up in a concerted push. Team leaders need to be calling their powers in opportune spots and coordinate with squad leaders. Without voice chat it's very difficult, and without good leaders your team will be slaughtered. It's a bit more important on offense than defense, but choosing which points to defend and creating strong points to defend is also important.

>>2858311
Collectivism -> Left
Individualism -> Right

Did you read the descriptions because they made it pretty clear which sides of the ideological spectrum they reside on.

>>2855824

It sucks.

Why am I so bad at Rome 2? Massilla is fucking me up with constant death stacks and I'm hardly expanding. Once I try any difficulty past normal my shit gets rocked

Playing EU4 as Prussia. I'm close to forming Germany. Will the Dutch ever stop revolting?

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Does anyone else here love to play europa universalis rome.
the game is a mess, but its still a lot of fun and the best grand strategy rome game I can remember.

>>2858748
Yup, loved it. However some mechanics like defending against the constant barbarian invasions and revolts, also the fact that you can't take more than like 3 provinces in a war even with 100% warscore can be exhausting as fuck. Can't wait for Rome 2.

>>2858603
They changed it to authoritarian/egalitarian now

>>2858856
Plus Hivemind.

>>2858603
It was authoritarianism and individualism. The Nazis and other dictatorships were authoritarian but far right politically.

>>2854945
If only people actually played Ostfront

>>2858973

One time I got into an active Russian Server on some custom city map, was pretty awesome charge across the bridge through smoke as people yelled stuff in Russian. Was pretty immersive Desu senpai.

Its a shame that the only active part of RO1 is the overrated Darkest Hour.

>>2858603
What does egalitarian fall under?

>>2859005
what's wrong with darkest hour?

>>2859017
Both legal equality and social equality, it can be left or right.

I'm a rise of nations guy myself

>dat cold war campaign

>>2859017
Nothing alone, like Fanatic militarist + equality is a society like Heinlein starship trooper.

>>2858375
Seconding this and Forgotten Hope 2.

>>2859028

Bad texture work, I'm not saying its bad but the base game has alot more polish due to actually having a budget.

>>2859507
the gameplay is so great though.

>>2858748
The fuck is Putin doing there

I started playing Hearts of Iron a few days ago, but l still havw no idea what l'm doing. I'm too stupid to figure out how the Navy and Air Force works, so l'm playing as countries where you can do shit mainly with ground forces.

Like fascist Brazil. The Axis got knocked out in 1942, and now the Allies and the Comintern are duking it out.

>>2854591
its more then playable. i think ist way more fun then the base game because it has way more provinces in europe and is generaly way more detailed except for places like india. and the Food stuf is kind of nice but if you dont like it you can just turn it off.

>>2854785
>That feeling when you win your first war against england and steal half of their clay
>That fucking feeling knowing that you can just bide your time and cuck them at your own leisure because nobody will ever ally them that matters
>Tfw Scottish 13 Colonies

removing anglos is the most satisfying thing.

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ALRIGHT LADS.

A big strategy game is given to you.

You launch it, and the map starts to load in with all the playable factions.
Your eyes IMMEDIATELY dart to a certain portion of the map to see if it's playable, and under what circumstances.

What's her name?

>tfw it's ireland every time
>tfw always want to make ireland a superpower
>tfw always want ireland to be the emerald jewel ruling western europe
>tfw not even irish
>tfw not even american
>tfw from yorkshire

mixed feel

>>2859845
>playing HoI4 and claiming you can't figure out what you're doing
Do you have a mental issue?

>>2860228
To be fair, the game is winnable without using air or navy forces most of the time.

For people who have HOI4 as their first HOI game, they'll probably not bother.

It isn't explained very well, anyways.

>>2860239
There's a literal tutorial that tells you exactly how to use them.

>>2860253
Yes, but how many people use 90% of paradox wall-of-text or shitty example tutorials?
It's the same every game.

The way people learn navy is:

>I want to naval invade, how do I naval invade
>Oh
>it won't work
>what's naval superiority? assign more fleets? ok
>oh cool, I can naval invade now

For air, it's
>What's this? spare planes?
>Guess I'll assign them to the places near whatever frontlines I have
>Pay 0 attention to them otherwise

Seeing as you can very easily win wars with odss stacked heavily against you without an airforce and units alone, it's understandable so many people skip over it.

I still haven't even bothered to use paratroopers or transport planes. Simply no need for them.

>>2860281
>but how many people use 90% of paradox wall-of-text or shitty example tutorials?
Except HoI4 tutorial is a mini Italy campaign and even if it wasn't, if you don't know what you're doing YOU SHOULD PLAY THE FUCKING TUTORIAL. It's common fucking sense as is the rest of the game, but you don't have that and that other anon certainly doesn't have it either because apparently you're both retarded.

>>2860189
Greece

>tfw last fully ethnic greek ancestor was granddad
>tfw born and raised not in Greece
>tfw don't speak a word of Greek
>tfw my only claim to Greek heritage is my surname and my looks
>tfw I know it's despicable weuzzery

Mixed kind of feel, but in all the grand strats I know of playing Greece or in Greece gives you a fun, challenging, underdog type of game. Plus using liquor to bring back the Byzantine empire is fun.

>>2851299

Scipii are better.

>>2860298
Sure, but even the mini-italy campaign could be done without fuck all air or naval action.

As for "TUTORIAL IS SUPER IMPORTANT", everyone everywhere usually has a better alternate than the tutorial for Paradox games, and it rarely fails.

CK2's tutorial is fucking dreadful, so people say "play Ireland, you have a lot of room to figure the mechanics out and a lot of time before anyone big will fuck with you."

In Vicky 2, people say "Play Britain, you are retardedly OP and can mess around figuring things out with a lot of room for error."

In EU4, people say "Play portugal or castille if you want to learn how to do colonies, and play France if you want to learn how to deal with europe."

In HOI4, the general advice is just to play Germany because you can still essentially win WW2 by figuring it out as you go along through division spam-something new players always do.

Learning by playing is extremely commonplace in paradox games and always has been.

The only people who don't understand the games are people who don't put any time into them.

>>2860328
Anon said it was his first one so your entire post is fucking moot

>>2860332
Not really, since he's probably asked some faggots here or elsewhere or has seen the constantly posted "Paradox tutorials are shit, teach yourself by doing X"

PARADOX INTERACTIVE -- BEST GAMES

1. Hearts of Iron 3
2. Victoria 2
3. Hearts of Iron 4
4. Crusader Kings 2
5. Stellaris
6. Europa Universalis 4

>>2860328
with ck2 i just played it and figured it out.
was really confusing at first but you only need to use 40 percent of the shit they throw at you.

>>2860348
Is it weird that l enjoy the role-playing aspect of EU4 more than that og CK2?

The period is so much more interesting; it's a real shame they couldn't come up with some kind of gameplay system better than monarch points.

>>2852191
>He actually takes Carthage first as Scipii
Dude, just cuck the Brutii out of southern Greece, and the rest of the game becomes piss easy because lol Gold/Gold equipment.

>>2860369
Yes, sorry. You are weird.

>>2860374
Haha

>>2860395
XD

>>2860189
probably around Europe for the Roman Empire. I'm a chink by heritage but playing as China is often boring because of game balancing they are always huge and usually powerful. It's not that much of a challenge.

granted, the roman empire was huge and powerful at some points, but I think legionnaires were more A E S T H E T I C than chinese troops of any time.

>>2860189
If Europe: Scotland, then Denmark.

If World: Tibet, then Scotland, then Denmark, then Japan.

>>2851299
I have a Greek game in EB. Right now I have my two best commanders who are the complete stereotypes of a Athenian and a Spartan out in the East fighting the Seleucids. It's like a buddy comedy almost. One is /fit/ and has positive traits while the other is /lit/ with all negative traits

>>2860348
>rating hoi4 that high

hoi4 is a piece of piss that's too easy. The ai is beyond retard and the game becomes a cake walk

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>>2856403
>>2856796
I finally did it. I rid the world of the HRE, and thanks to the Black Death killing off most of the College of Cardinals I now have the Papacy in my back pocket for the next hundred years at least. Milan started shit soon after this though, and I've reduced them to a single castle out in the Balkans (Sofia). I basically conquered all of northern Italy in 3 turns and then gave Venice their capital and Ragusa back for free and now they will attack anyone I ask them to. Currently waging a proxy war against the Byzantines via Venice.

>>2860662
That's why you play online. It's a fantastic game when you play against players who play semi-historically (no gamey shit).

>>2860370
>>2860370
lol that's what I did as my first campaign as the Julii though, went for Spain then Greece. Worked out alright too.

>>2860673
You're doing God's work my boy

>>2855950
Do you have faction packs? If so Himyar or Aksum, if not Garamantes.
>why
Because they were generally irrelevant during the period in the grand scheme and its fun taking literally whos and conquering the world. Also their rosters are pretty good and armored camels are fucking amazing.

>>2861803
>aksum
>literally who
what

the founder of manichaeism himself said that aksum was a world power along with Rome, the Sassanids, and China. they might not have been able to beat any of those three in a head to head war but they are far from being a literally who nation.

Can anyone give me a breakdown of the roman factions in vanilla rtw? Been ages since I played.

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>>2851299
Nice

Right now I'm watching this guy struggle with the Great Hunt scenario in the Babylonian campaign of Age of Empires.

>>2861905
forgot the link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FQG5sWZunAM

>>2855491
>allied with the Chinese
Lol?
Just DoW dude. Chinese won't do shit.

>>2853155
What's wrong with EB's music? It seems to have been a good job, overall. I thought the Easterners had the best and most melodic music, especially with the duduk, while the Barbarians/European tribes had the worst, with those repetitive horns and buzzing instruments, though. The Romans, Steppe Nomads, and the Hellenic factions had good music, I recall, but at least for the latter, the music did not feel quite authentic so much as Hollywood historical epic.

>>2855019
Mount & Blade: Warband's Brytenwalda mod? It's very good, but also quite realistic, the most realistic I'm aware of.

>>2858850
I hope they also include the Late Roman time period, leading up possibly through Emperor Justinian's time (Eastern Roman reconquest of large parts of the West). Setting the start date back a little further, back into Alexander's time, or even the years of the Greco-Persian wars, would be a good idea, as well.

>>2860189
Ottomans

Not arab, turkish or muslim. Will turn it Christian if possible. But Ottomans every time.

>>2854825
That's awesome, and I never knew you could do that

>>2855985

Why are all the buildings just squares? I can see them just fine when in the specific menu, but is there a view that incorporates all buildings at the same time?