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>>2839238
Where does it say anywhere that he's a T*rk?

>>2839236

No, if anything the furthest.

Have you ever seen a genetic plot? Yamna and Corded Ware are outside modern variation but closest to Lithuanians.

No, I am
t. half Tajik half Pole/Lithuanian

>>2839238
They are genetically indistingiushable

>>2839290
So he is just half azeri? Why do you always pretend he is full azeri?

>>2839290
Aren't most Azeris just Persians anyway?

>>2839238
Azeris are racially Iranic you sperg

>>2839316
Azeris are ethnic Iranians that speak a Turkic language. They are genetically close to Persians.

>>2839324

No such race. Iranians are just language shifters. Azeris also are just Caucasus people who shifted language to IE and then Turkic.

>>2839332
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Irano-Afghan_race

>>2839338
>obsolete term

>>2839340
>obsolete term means it doesnt exist
neck yourself

>>2839338

Afghans and Iranians are biologically unrelated. Afghans have moderate to high frequencies of Indo-European paternal heritage while Iranians have very little. Their aboriginal sides are different also.
Biologically most Iranians would be closer to most Iraqis than to most Afghans.

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>>2839349
Recep tayip is a Georgian himself Mehmet

The Turks are eternally cucked by superior indo aryan blood

>>2839332
>implying everyone arent language shifters

>>2839356

Georgians probably aren't. It seems they've live in their homeland since the ice age ended.

>>2839364
Are you going to genocide them too?

Tets

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>>2839282
>half Tajik half Pole/Lithuanian

So 100% Sarmatian?

>>2839675
Not really since my dad is a soviet invasion diaspora afghan, but I guess my genes are pretty close to those

>>2839355
Georgians aren't Indo-Europeans

>>2839675
How the fuck do poles come up with names like that

>>2839236
Persians are Elamites + Mesopotamians LARPing as Indo-Europeans

>>2839797
Iranians have mostly Caucasus admixture tho

>>2839836
Stop LARPing as other people

>>2839846
But its true. Iranians are a mix of caucasus+mesopotamia/elamite+Indo-European

>>2839279
I think Armenians are furthest, they cluster with semitic Assyrians and "Kurdish"/"Iranian" Jews

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>>2839846

It's not LARPing if it's true, though.

>>2839916
>Iranians are more Caucasian than Armenians

Explain

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>>2839955

Armenians cluster with Assyrians, likely both populations have similar ethnic origin.

>>2839790
it's a meme you dip

https://youtu.be/t-fcrn1Edik

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>>2839236 (OP)
No, those would be the descendants of the Scythians, IE the descendants of the East Slavs, IE modern White Russian and Slavic peoples.


THAT'S RIGHT. THE NAZIS WERE WRONG. THE CLOSEST-GENETIC DESCENDANTS TO THE ARYANS ARE THE SLAVS.

SLAVS! SLAVS! SLAVS!

>>2839282
>>2839316
>>2839324
>>2839329

Persians, Azeris, Kurds, Tajiks, Afghans, and Parsis are all cousins and are all ethnically Iranian/Iranic.


Freddie Mercury of Queen? A Zoroastrian-raised ethnic Parsi.

It's like how Danes, Dutch, Germans, Austrians, and Swiss are related.

>>2839852
For real, TRUE PURE ORIGINAL "Aryans Iranians" haven't existed in their authentic form since 636 AD, before the Arab, Mongol, and Turkic invasions.

Hell, one could argue that the Iranian/Persian people had already been mixed by Assyrian, Jewish, and eventually Greek blood between the times of Cyrus the Great in the 6th Century B.C. to the times of Alexander the Great in the 4th Century B.C.

>ethnic Iranian/Persian speaking. Pic related.

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>>2839236
Yes.

>>2841367
>Yes.
>proceed with no evidence but rather an arbitrary profile in juxtaposition

such is the work of /pol/

>>2839348
>Afghans have moderate to high frequencies of Indo-European paternal heritage while Iranians have very little.
source? imo it's the opposite
>t. iranian

>>2840110
How though? Armenians are Indo-Europeans and Assyrians are Semites

>>2839852
>Elamite admixture
Nope.

>>2841503
>not a single drop

>>2839236
Not /his/ but I wanted to give a shoutout to all the Iranians out there for reelecting Rouhani.

>>2841508
I severely doubt a people who were almost already on their literal last legs after the Neo-Assyrians rampaged through the Elamite kingdom sacking and razing a bunch of towns and cities were going to have any significant impact on the already large number of Indo-Iranians invading from Central Asia and the Caucasus areas and already semi-sedentary and settled on the Iranian Plateau.

>>2841516
And yet the Elamite mixture is still pretty consistent lmao

>>2841364
You look handsome m8

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>>2841534
>Elamite mixture
There is almost totally none. Most of their population was nearly wiped out by the Neo-Assyrian Empire in its final glory days. This is why the Medes and Persians and other Iranic people were able to more easily assert themselves on the Iranian Plateau and rapidly dominate the area. Even today, modern Persians for example, do not show the admixtures like you claim and cluster extremely closely if not the same as their ancestors.

Because you are going to really really need to explain why or how the Elamites were going to have a major affect on a people who vastly outnumbered them.

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No, Indians are.

>>2841550
Isn't this dude from /fit/? Christ. This is why I never post my face online.

>>2841550
I thought 99% of Indians are basically Indo-Aryan speaking Dravidians

>>2841547
>Even today, modern **Afghans** for example, do not show the admixtures like you claim and cluster extremely closely if not the same as their ancestors.
Persians themselves are just rape babies.

>>2841550
So modern day Pakistanis?

>>2841555
>>2841550
Is this dude Dravidian?

>>2841557
Lmao

Afghani Pashtuns show far more mixing with Turkic and Mongolic peoples then any other Iranian people besides maybe the Kurds

Well its good to know your just shitposting now since you outed yourself

>>2841555
No mate. They are indo-Aryan speaking Aryans, except for the minor Australoid population who are a different race from Dravidians.

>>2841557
low tier b8

I will give you a (You)

>>2841562
how does a Southern Indian look compared to a Northern one?

>>2841576
Indo-Aryan is only a language group, iirc Aryan doesn't even have an ethnic denomination in Indian languages compared to Iranian ones which it solely does

>>2841577
Well from a quick google:

https://www.quora.com/Do-North-Indians-and-South-Indians-have-different-facial-features

It seems even dark skinned Northern Indians tend to have sharper/longer faces.

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>>2841557

>>2841547
>modern Persians for example, do not show the admixtures like you claim and cluster extremely closely if not the same as their ancestors.

the early Persians did not have southwest Asian admixture >>2840110

>>2841582
Aryan in Sanskrit and Indo-Aryan language means the same if they share the same linguistic ancestor. It simply means "noble ". Whoever translated the inscriptions in ancient Iran regarding Darius the Third and others made a mistake by thinking it belonged to a particular race.

>>2841598
Iranians have always used "Aryan" eponymous with Iranian literally. They've done so for a long time, from before the Medes up to the Sassanids.

>>2841594
Pretty certain they did. Many of those "Southwest" genetics stem from Neolithic peoples living in the Zargos Mountains or parts of Central Asia.

>>2841364
I'm the half tajik >>2839282 here, and you look exactly like me. I just have a slightly rounder face whereas yours is more lean/taller.

>>2841594
Kek they even have some sub saharan admixture

>M-muh Persians are p-pure

>>2841611
Which doesn't change anything. Iran being called "Land of the Aryans" could also mean "Land of the Noble People"

>>2841598
Darius I ordered that inscription.

Darius III is the jobber that lost to Alexander 150 years after Darius I died.

>>2841611
This, too.

>>2841612
>I'm the half tajik and you look exactly like me
>half tajik
Wow. Why are iranian genes so eternal?

>>2841612
And holy shit, I just opened my front camera and I have the American flag flying right behind me vertical just as you do.

>>2841611
>Southwest Asian
>Central Asian

Anon...

>>2841621
The point still remains

>>2841550
If mixed with Abo Australoid Dravidians, then yes
>>2841611
This, 'Persia' itself is a greek term from their capital city; Pasargadae, they literally call themselves Arya/Arian

>>2841614
>muh meme chart that gives no specifics
lmao

>>2841629
>Neolithic and Zagros peoples and pre-Indo-European farmers being generically labeled as "Southwest Asian"
Anon...

>>2841627
Strong genes. Despite being 50% European I have zero European features besides lighter skin than my dad

>>2841620
Yeah, "of Noble People" meaning "our forefathers and people of our race because we're so noble and awesome".


"Slav" comes from the Latin "sclava" meaning "slave"


So, when Slavs refer to themselves as "Slavs" because they're literally calling themselves slaves? No; the word holds multiple definitions.

>>2841620
How about the ethnic people itself calling themself Aryans?

>>2841633
>It's a meme chart because I don't like what it's showing

Pathetic

>>2841638
Anyone can call themselves noble.

>>2841629
Those "Southwest" Asians are literally from pastorals who first settled in parts of Central and SW Asia before PIE people ever showed up. They get literally always swept under the rug by /stormfront/ tier refugees and /pol/ fags who ignore the fact these settlers who the Indo-Iranians mixed with are the same people other Indo-European nomads mixed with in Europe.

>>2841642
Its a meme chart because it gives no specifics, and generically uses blanket regional terms without detailing autosomal DNA sources. Are you one of the stupid fucks who thinks everything in genetics revolves solely around haplogroups too?

>>2841637
False equivalent, Slav calling themselves Slav is more equivalent to Iranians calling themselves Persians
"persia" is the foreign adopted name, Iran/Aryan is the original name

>>2841633
>pre-Indo-European

You mean Elamites?

>>2841655
No, becaues Elamites are not Neolithic settlers or Zagros people who are wholly separate from them. And PIE refers to Proto-Indo-Europeans. The Elamites spoke an isolated language like the Sumerians.

>>2841655
Not him but there werent just elamites living in pre-IE Iran.

>>2841649
Nope I think haplogroups are a wewuz meme. Post ""real"" Persian autosomal DNA results pls

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>>2841612
>>2841628

Let's wing together and pick up Aryan bitches, bro.
And when we're done with that, we can make memes about us being white.

Contact?


Are you an Amerifat like me? Do you consider yourself white? Do you have light-colored eyes?
Here's a pretty dank meme I made a few years ago.

>>2841652
Persians are one of the Indo-Iranian people. They originally referred to themselves as Parsa, which is actually what the Achaemenid dynasty called its Empire. Persis/Persia comes from the Greek and Latin translations of their ethnicity and nation.

You can be an Iranian and be Persian.
Just like you can be Iranian but not Persian.

>>2841668
>can't provide proof of claim
>now try to shift burden of proof back at me
lmao >>2841547

If you think hapologroups is retarded too, then why are you challenging me?

>>2841663
Yep, other Caucasoids, Zagros settlers, isolated sedentary and semi-sedentary pastoralists from pre-Bronze Age period already living in areas that would make up where Iranic people would come to dominate from the Iranian Plateau to what is Tajikistan, Afghanistan, parts of Uzbekistan, Pakistan, and Turkmenistan.

>>2841627
A drop of shit in a jar of ice cream makes it a jar of shit- not dessert.

>>2841631
>If mixed with Abo Australoid Dravidians, then yes
Aren't they the original inhabitants of the sub-continent? They're not Indo-European at all.

>>2841674
>Let's wing together and pick up Aryan bitches, bro.
>And when we're done with that, we can make memes about us being white.
wew lad. you seem autistic as fuck,

>>2841682
Wrong, the word parsa comes from their capital city at the time, Pasargadae, then it went goes > Parsa > Parsis > Persepolis > Persia by the Greeks

>>2841674
Why is everyone obsessed with white girls

>>2841674
>contact
Nah. I'm on here often though, if I mention something about being Afghan/Tajik point me out and we'll talk.
>Amerifat
Hell yeah, you know it
>white
I'll be completely honest. I was one of those former /pol/fags believing in holohoax, white superiority etc and constantly tried to prove I'm white. It's been a while though and thankfully I no longer believe in "le red pill xd." Consider myself Tajik even though I'm only half as that's what I look like. And I still go out of my way to make a point that I'm not a semite (Americans, you know how it is). We're legally white though which is fucking autistic.
>light eyes
nope

Nice meme
>>2841698
White's aren't Aryan though

>>2841698
He said aryan tho

>>2841696
The capital was Parsagadae which only built AFTER Cyrus ascended to his grandfather's throne with the success of the Persian Revolt overthrowing the Mede Empire. Pars was already the province the Persian tribe was settled in Iran, which is why the the main titles for Kings in Pars was that of "King of Anshan".

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>>2841675
>>2841675
>>2841675
Semi related. Teach me about Ariana (ancient Afghanistan) please

>>2841710
>>2841716
>The trilingual inscription erected by the command of Shapur I gives a more clear description. The languages used are Parthian, Middle Persian, and Greek. In Greek inscription says "ego ... tou Arianon ethnous despotes eimi", which translates to "I am the king of the kingdom (nation) of the Iranians". In Middle Persian, Shapur says "ērānšahr xwadāy hēm" and in Parthian he says "aryānšahr xwadāy ahēm".[24][31]

>The Avesta clearly uses airiia- as an ethnic name (Videvdat 1; Yasht 13.143–44, etc.), where it appears in expressions such as airyāfi daiŋˊhāvō ("Iranian lands"), airyō šayanəm ("land inhabited by Iranians"), and airyanəm vaējō vaŋhuyāfi dāityayāfi ("Iranian stretch of the good Dāityā").[22] In the late part of the Avesta (Videvdat 1), one of the mentioned homelands was referred to as Airyan'əm Vaējah which approximately means "expanse of the Iranians". The homeland varied in its geographic range, the area around Herat (Pliny's view) and even the entire expanse of the Iranian plateau (Strabo's designation).[32]

>>2841708
So Semitic ?

>>2841734
>The Old Persian and Avestan evidence is confirmed by the Greek sources.[22] Herodotus, in his Histories, remarks about the Iranian Medes that "Medes were called anciently by all people Arians" (7.62).[22][23] In Armenian sources, the Parthians, Medes and Persians are collectively referred to as Iranians.[33] Eudemus of Rhodes (Dubitationes et Solutiones de Primis Principiis, in Platonis Parmenidem) refers to "the Magi and all those of Iranian (áreion) lineage". Diodorus Siculus (1.94.2) considers Zoroaster (Zathraustēs) as one of the Arianoi.[22]

>Strabo, in his Geographica, mentions the unity of Medes, Persians, Bactrians and Sogdians:[34]

>The name of Ariana is further extended to a part of Persia and of Media, as also to the Bactrians and Sogdians on the north; for these speak approximately the same language, with but slight variations.

>—Geography, 15.8 The Bactrian (a Middle Iranian language) inscription of Kanishka (the founder of the Kushan Empire) at Rabatak, which was discovered in 1993 in an unexcavated site in the Afghan province of Baghlan, clearly refers to this Eastern Iranian language as Arya.[35]

>All this evidence shows that the name Arya was a collective definition, denoting peoples who were aware of belonging to the one ethnic stock, speaking a common language, and having a religious tradition that centered on the cult of Ohrmazd.[36]

>>2841735
Nope. The Indo-Iranian branch of the Indo-European people

>>2841734
Sassanids also always referred to their empire and nation as that of "Eranshar" which can roughly translate to mean "Realm of Iranians/Aryans".

>>2841738
So Iranians

>>2841740
And Indians

>>2841741
And Afghans

>>2841627
I'll take 'Dominant and Recessive Genes' for $400, Alex.
>>2841631
It comes from the province of "Pars" (modern-day Fars), where Cyrus the Great originated from.

Yeah, that's why there are names like "Aria", "Arya", or "Arian" for boys and "Ariana" (or "Arianna") for girls. That's right, "Ariana" means "girl Aryan".

Fun fact: I have three different cousins named Ariana. It's a pretty common Persian name.

>>2841682
Yeah, I've always wondered where the fuck the word "Achaemenid" comes from anyway.

>>2841696
YOU'RE WRONG. It comes from the province. The city was named after the province.

>>2841695
>wew lad. you seem autistic as fuck,
I'm being tongue-in-cheek, mate.

Also, this fucking 4chan. I'm not allowed to be autistic here?

>>2841698
I said Aryan bitches, not white girls.
Dude, there's way more to The Red Pill than "white superiority". Way more. It's more about man-woman social dynamics, the family unit, conservative vs liberal society, etc. Don't throw the baby out with the bath water.

How tall are you? Do you own a gun? Are you diagnosed with any mental disorders? Are you lactose-intolerant? Are you circumcised? What religion do you practice? Do you speak any language other than English?


My answers:

5'8". No. Yes. Nope. Yup. None. I took French in high school; I'm terrible at it.

>>2841741
>>2841746
Gross

>>2841746
Afghans are Iranian.


See: >>2841364
>Persians, Azeris, Kurds, Tajiks, Afghans, and Parsis are all cousins and are all ethnically Iranian/Iranic.

>It's like how Danes, Dutch, Germans, Austrians, and Swiss are related.

>>2841752
>That's right, "Ariana" means "girl Aryan".

Or it could mean noble girl.

>>2841756
Eh, Indo-Iranian/Iranic, "Iranian" mostly applies to people from present day Iran (even the non Persians are Iranian, similar to how me being an American doesn't make me a redskin)

But I see what you mean

>>2841756
>>2841364
> Danes, Dutch, Germans, Austrians

These people cluster extremely close to each other

Iranian people don't

>>2841756
Aryan is an ethno linguistic group of which Persians are part of, but not the only one, see >>2841737

>>2841752
t.autism

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>>2841768
Yeah, ever since 1935, when the country named was changed officially from "Persia" to "Iran".

Now "Iranian" has two meanings: one nationalist and ethnic.

Any citizen of the country of Iran can be called "Iranian", regardless of his race or ethnicity.

What I was referring to, and what everyone has been referring to this whole thread, is the ethnic definition.

>>2841774
Yes they do.


See pic.

>>2841812
>Any citizen of the country of Iran can be called "Iranian", regardless of his race or ethnicity.
Even if he's a chink or negro

>>2841812
Hoc closely related are northern ethnics like Scythians and Sarmatians to Iranian ethnics?

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>>2841819
Pic related

>>2841819
Scythians and Sarmatians are Iranics.

>>2841815
Yes.


Like ethnic French vs. French citizenship.

>>2841819
This:
>>2841824


So close, they're literally humping each other.

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This thread confirms humanity is full of mutt half breed fucks

>>2841841
Fucking lmfao

>>2841824
>>2841828
Does this mean Slavs are Aryans?

>>2841858
Technically yeah and some other euros

>>2841829
>Like ethnic French vs. French citizenship.
But the thing is they'll never be accepted as 'true' French/Iranian. I think that's what he was on about.

>>2841858
Yes but there is still a lot of mystery and research is still in progress about ancient history we barely know

>>2841858
>>2841872


Just look at the Ukrainian people. I think that's as close to "Original White Nordic Aryan" as you're ever gonna get.

>>2841812
>See pic

Do you know what human genetic clustering is, anon?

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>>2841901
Yup ironic because most euros ecpecially Norwegians for some reason are not fond of Ukrainians

>>2841920
Reminder that varg literally committed 5 degrees of manslaughter and thinks autism is a superhuman ability

>>2841812

Iran has always been called Iran by Iranians, "Persia" is just what we called the country.

>>2841819

It's unclear what race the Scythians and Sarmatians were. Most likely they were multi-ethnic federations of many different peoples.

Sarmatians/Scythians left no significant genetic input in Slavs. You can see that when looking at their autosomal DNA

Persians are more Arab than Slavs are Sarmatian

>>2841858
No. Aryan was for the most part an ethnic designation. Any "Aryan" those Slavic population had was abandoned culturally. It's like saying Turks are Greek since they are genetically Greek + other Anatolian populations. They're obviously aren't.

>>2841841
Holy shit that is fucking embarrassing

>>2841995
>>2841858

"Slav" is the equivalent of "Aryan", it's a self-identifying term that means something like "the noble people / the real humans".

>>2841841
Context of that pic? What was Stefan referring to?

>>2842010
He was on his own videos comments trying to larp but probably forgot about changing his username on his truth about frozen video

>>2841858
No.

>>2841920
They have the most beautiful women in the world, though...

>>2842009
both 'slav' and 'aryan' are indeed ethnonyms, but they have different meanings. ā́rya means 'noble, master', while slav likely comes a root *klew which means to hear.

>>2841449

Look up haplogroup R1a. It originates in eastern Europe and Iranians have their own haploshits like J and G.

who gives a shit?

>>2843174
>haplogroups
Not very relevant.

>>2841637
Slave in Latin is servus, -a, you colossal retard.

>>2839236
What is up with all the Iran threads on /his/ lately?

>>2843497

Of course they are? They are the only sure way to track paternal/maternal descent. Iranians lack European heritage on paternal side while Afghans and Tajiks are loaded with it.

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>>2841841
BTFO

>>2843597
This is wrong. Autosomal DNA sequences and tests actually give a full on genetic heritage, haplogroups only follow one parental lineage, primarily maternal.

Haplogroups are a meme for a reason loved by amateur /pol/fags and wannabe eugenicists.

>>2841812
Bit unfair to exclude Hazaras m8 they're almost all Shiite Persian speakers

>>2843674
They are not ethnically Iranic though.