Help me fill this up, /his/.

>>2830497
Move Stalin over to (90,10)
Mohammad could be somewhere around (70,40)
Albert Speer (60,15)
Nicholas II (50, 85)

Giordano Bruno (20,40)

>>2830497
Who's (0,0)?

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5;100

Anne Frank (5, 95)

Pol Pot 5,100

>>2830658
A Nazi that passed away in his sleep

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>>2830497

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>>2830653
>>2830656

>>2830658
The closest to that spot is the remainings of the australopithecus Lucy. But there is no 0.0 suggestion yet.

Mao 30, 80
Shankara 45 65
I'd replace pol pot with Mugabe

>>2830711
>the remainings of the australopithecus Lucy.
We don't know, Lucy could have been a complete bitch.

There are a lot of people who suffered a lot more than Jesus and did a lot less to deserve it.

Richard Nixon (30,35)
Henry VIII (75,10)
Cromwell (70,15)

What did mithridates suffer from?

>>2830774
Look at his Wikipedia article. Basically one of the worst execution methods ever conceived and it wasn't even completely his fault either.

>>2830497
Eve (100,100)

>>2830814
1) Fictional
2) She didn't suffer nearly as much as she deserved.

[spoiler]Just be /pol/ and make 100,100 the Jews.[/spoiler]

>>2830820
Jews would be 0 suffering and 100 deserve in /pol/istan

Gaddafi (65,60)

Robespierre seems like the perfect 50 50

Pyrrhus of Epirus
25, 25

your'e being too kind to nicky

Putin (30,15)
Julius Caesar (40,40)
Justinian (30,40)

anon (100,100)

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where would Rasputin fit?

>>2830665
this

>>2831142
Upper left somewhere.

>>2831142
70, 65

>>2830762
Anne frank didn't suffer , gas is a very humane way to go

>>2830497
Pol Pot at (100,5)

>>2830738
>Cromwell (70,15)
fuck off, monarchist

>>2830762

Sunni detected

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>>2830762
Thanks for the help, kind anon.

>>2830814 she definitely deserved a little more than her suffering though
>>2830929
>>2831039
>>2831080
>>2831124
>>2831142
>>2831153
>>2830665 gotta explain himself or that's as much as I can fit him

Keep em coming lads.

>>2830727
well yeah its not like this is based on anything. We are just having fun

Marx. Suffering 15
Deserved it 100

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>>2831488
>>2831495
Correct.

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5,80

Fuck you guys Cromwell was a good boy.

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Boethius, 20,20

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Valerian 80, 95

Gaius Marius
(40,20)

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>>2831587
>>2831611
>>2831629
>>2831633

>>2831645
Marie Antoinette
(10,70)

>>2831658
> live your whole live in luxury
> Conspire against your country with foreign powers
> get a swift painless death
Yeah, nah

>>2831645
Edgar Allen Poe
(20,70)

>>2831645
FDR
(90,30)

Montezuma
45, 80

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>>2831658
>>2831667 any better suggestions?
>>2831681
>>2831670
>>2831691

>>2831709
woops meant Suffering 45 deserving 80 for Montezuma

>>2830497

(0,100): Joseph Merrick

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pompey
30, 60

>>2830707

swap Dr. Mengele with Annie Frank.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carl_Panzram

Where would he go?

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>>2831714
>>2831731
>>2831735
>>2831736 good meme
>>2831757 serial killers is cheating

Oskar Dirlewagner

(60, 100), if I could put him any higher than 100 I would

>>2831212
I think you mean Scotts-Irish.

>>2831833
Siddhartha (the Buddah): 5,15
Hitler: 80,75
Martin Luther: 85, 25


Also Poe should be lower on the suffering chart. He had a hard life but I don't know if it would be equal to being burned at the stake like Joan was.

Marx could also probably be brought back to 85/80 deserved it and 5 suffering because he just had dumb ideas. It was his followers who implemented them poorly.

Mao and Roosevelt should be switched and Eve should be removed.

Trump at (40,30)
Obama at (15,25)
Dubya at (45,20)

Who is 70,75?

>>2832553
>Trump at (40,30)
>Obama at (15,25)
>Dubya at (45,20)
They are too recent to be included. Seriously Trump has had 120 days in office. He isn't a historical figure yet.

>>2831833
Move marie antoinette to 60 deserved and put louis where she was

>>2831833
Alcibiades at 40 suffering 5 deserved
>kicked out of your homeland twice and killed despite doing nothing wrong except trusting others

Martin Luther King
(10, 55)

>>2830665
didnu nuffin, just a chubby jap who loved his disney and fish

>>2830497

Jimmy Carter at (15, 30)

Shiro Iishii at 10, 95

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>>2832659
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JFK (x 10, y 45)
Nietzsche (x 25, y 55)
Joseph Smith (x 85, y 30)
Vercingetorix (x 35, y 65)
John Paul II (x 5, y 50)

>>2831833
panzram is a little more complicated because he was tortured as a kid.

>>2832664
Philosophers are fucking cheating. Hardly any of them did anything.

Kissinger: 60,15
Edward Bernays: 85,5

>>2832693
Nietzsche is a different case. He lived in chronic pain, ended his final days in a sanatorium.
He was a great critic of Christian morality and influenced profoundly the 20th century views on religion and morals. I think he had done quite a lot in his life.

Come on, Caesar was just as bad as any Nazi even if he played at being merciful to his own kind. He deserved what he got even if he did get some good things done in the dying republic.

>>2832677
naturally, but what he did was utterly monstrous, there's no two ways about it

>>2832731
That is why he is 40,40 I'd imagine. He didn't do the worst things in the world, he also did some good things, and he got exactly what he had coming for him.

>>2831833
Henry VIII suffered for years in his old age with his obesity and weird health conditions, no way that counts as only 20 when there's people who died healthy in their sleep higher than him

>>2830497
Gilles de Rais (100, 40)

>>2830497
Suffering 40, deserved it 100
Oskar Dirlewanger.

>>2831102
Fuck off bolshevik idiot

Krasus at 60,60

OP 100, 1000

>>2830774
>>2830801
Look up the Asiatic Vespers, the guy was a cunt and squarely had it coming.

Change Mithridates to 95,90.

>>2830497
issei sagawa somewhere in the bottom right.

95, 10?

why is FDR considered evil?

>>2833204
Butthurt repubs who claim "he woz trying to be a dictator"

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>>2831942
>>2832543
I guess Joan just was too low for her tier in general, also Eve stays as long as no one replaces her.
>>2832624
>>2832630
>>2832654
>>2832659
>>2832664
>>2832693
>>2832794
>>2832943
>>2832986
Gotta explain why should I give a jump that big.
>>2832553
>>2832596
I guess they count for now.
>>2833127
>>2833179
>>2833130
I'm not suffering that much.
>>2833186

Keep em coming.

>>2833210
Oh I mentioned Shiro and misunderstood, I thought he would be put next to Stalin. Sorry for confusion

>>2833210
Yes you are because OP will always be a faggot

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>>2833209
Corrected.
>>2833218
Old meme.

>>2830707
>Anne Frank placed right next to jesus.
Holocaustianity really is the new religion of the west

Majorian 20,90

>>2830497
There was this chinese concubine, Qi, who bore a child from the Emperor, Zhao, he already had a son though so Zhao wouldn't inherit the throne. The Emperor died and his first son became the new Emperor. Now the Empress-Dowager, the mother of the New Emperor, really hated the fact that her Husband had fathered children on other women. So, she had the following done to the poor Qi.

>Nevertheless Empress Dowager had an assassin force venom down King of Zhao's throat....She then had Concubine Qi's limbs chopped off, blinded her by gouging out her eyes, cut off her tongue and locked her in the pigsty, and called her a "Human Swine"

Qi lived for 6 years in this fashion. I vote her at 100 suffering and zero.

>>2833210
Louis XVII

5, 75?

>>2830653
I don't see how he scores so high on any of them? he was confined to his own palace, and while his entire family was killed, surely he didn't suffer 85?

>>2833210
Gilles de Rais literally raped and murdered dozens, if not hundreds of children and was ''merely'' hanged, surely that means he deserved a lot more suffering than he got

>>2833210
Reagan (25,50)

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>>2833236
Replace Panzaram (sereal killers are cheating) with Mao's opposite number; Jiang Jieshi

Suffering; 25 Deserved it; 95
Massacred the CPC for no reason throwing his country into a Civil War, loses but still gets to live out his life on an island as dictator propped up by the USA until his death

>>2833236
Can we just remove anybody who is alive, Jimmy Carter, Putin, Obama, Trump are all 0 suffering

>>2833236
Move hitler to at least 95 Deserved it. Even if you believe he dindu nuffin wrong, he destroyed Germany and let the German people as well as countless millions suffer and die due to personal incompetence. Dude was shit.

>>2833236
Add Constantine XI with suffering: 90, deserved it: 15

His first two wives died giving birth to stillborns. He ruled well a few years, before the Ottoman's came knocking. He tried to get together an army to defend the city. He tried calling the Venetians for help, but they refused. having learned this, he weeped, knowing his city doomed. However, some Venetians and genoans did come to help, but it wasn't enough. After seeing his city fall, he chose to die fighting.

Will give it a little while, if OP fucked off I'll start us up again from square 1, with a more rigid rule set (no living figures, no semi-modern presidents and shit, no blatant shitposting, etc)

>>2833238
>a child who has not yet been even capable of doing any harm to anyone dies in a concentration camp in horrible conditions.
>but if you pitty her "Itsa da Evil Joos!!!"

You have to go back

>>2833236
G*rman flag at (80,5)

>>2833556
>every innocent civilian raped and murdered in Germany's wars deserved it
wew

>>2833236
Speer literally did nuffin wrong. Delet.

Also, put
Willi 2 at 30S:80D (caused memewar I and died like fag in occupied Netherlands)
Ferdi I of bulgaria at 80S:80D (lost both sons and died like a fag in ruined post-war germany)
Bomber Harris at 10S:80D
Oskar Dirlewanger at 40S:100D
Beria at 30S:100D

>>2833591
Also Trotski at 70S:80D

Vlad III the impaler at 40 suffering 20 deserved
Napoleon at 70 suffering 50 deserved

>>2832543
>hitler
found the teenager

>>2833646
Vlad the impaler at 90 deserved, minimum
He was a real meany

>>2833564
the eternal kraut will pay for their wrongdoings

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>>2833239
>>2833242
Damn.
>>2833244
>>2833326
He's already on the highest setting for deserving.
>>2833366
>>2833418
>>2833472
>>2833511
>>2833564
>>2833591
>>2833606
>>2833646
>>2833730
>>2833530
Feel free to take it from me whenever you want. Besides, we could always just discuss why someone should be relocated or retired from the chart.

>>2834247
Putting Nicholas II at only 50 deserving is fucking dumb. He should be at 100 deserving

>>2834247
Obama should be at least over 50 on deserve scale

>>2833418
fuck off leftypol

Why is Mao higher than Pol Pot on the suffering axis? At least pot died under house arrest, iirc. Mao bastard died a natural death as a "hero".
And Mao definitely deserves to be as far right on the deserve axis as Stalin. Mao is responsible for over 50 million deaths

>>2834247
Marc Antony 35,35
Brutus 55,30
Elizabeth I 60,30
Alexios IV Angelos 85,50
Richard the Lionheart 30,45
William the Bastard 75,15

Reagan should be moved over to around to 40/45 on deserved it. He essentially started the economic practices that are currently ravaging America and destroying its middle class.

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90, 75

>>2834247
Genghis Khan (35, 90)
Kublai Khan (40, 70)

>Willhelm II
>Suffering
The guy lived in a comfy big house even in exile and was generally respected. Even Hitler respected him (only in public though, he thought he was a joke in private).
The only suffering I can think of that he endured was illness.

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>>2834350
losing the war sounds pretty shit to me

I don't see why Hitler's so high on suffering and how is Anne Frank lower than him on suffering? She died in a concentration camp while pussy Hitler shot himself in his bunker.

>>2834382
All he did was abdicate his throne and then live a comfy life in exile.
Lived as a Kaiser for the first of his life, and as a rich man in the latter.

>>2834382
still a pretty mild fate.

An Lushan
(90,50)

>>2830497
Marcus Aurelius at (5,70)
Having to fight wars while you just want to be an administrator is pretty shit

>>2834247
Lincoln 25,45
Thomas Becket 15,50
Alexander the Great 85,30 (push FDR back to 75)
John I 60,30
Franco 70,25
Hugh Despenser the Younger 85,85

>>2834508
>Marcus Aurelius at (5,70)
As a Roman Emperor you can hardly be innocent of deserving suffering. And having to fight wars you don't want is now more suffering that being a kid dying of starvation and typhoid?

>>2834438
Yeah, Hitler needs to be 50,95 if only for him being disease ridden and having a semi-not-okay childhood.

>>2834556
Aurelius needs to be maybe 20 deserved, and 25 suffering.

>>2834508
>>2834556
Marcus Aurelius is already there, you dolts.

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Marie Antoinette
15 75

You faggots need to know how axes work.
It's (x,y)
Horizontal is x
Vertical is y

Hitler is an easy 90-95, 100.
The only good part of his life was becoming a Fuhrer and he even fucked that up.

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>>2834268
>>2834292
Are you memeing me, senpai? Explain.
>>2834328
Unless you're implying I should have just switched both, that's as much as I can do.
>>2834338
>>2834348
>>2834349
>>2834482
>>2834545

>>2834689
I really hope no one messed this up this time.

Genghis Khan (x 90, y 35)

>>2834706
Dirlewanger was a monster. He deserved everything that happened to him.

>>2834706
>I really hope no one messed this up this time.

You mixed up the X/Y on Richard the Lionheart. It is 30,45 not 45,30.

John D. Rockefeller 75,5
Rothschild Family 85, 5 (push Marx up to 15, he did have some pretty shitty things happen to him.)

>>2834706

Nelson Mandela 65,10

>>2834706
Galileo 10,15
Einstein 10,5
Newton 5,5

>>2834706

You fucked up Dirlewanger. It should be 100 deserve/40 suffering, not 100 suffering 60 deserve. He literally stoned innosent chilluns to death.

>>2834706
>Genghis Khan (35, 90)
>Kublai Khan (40, 70)

Genghis dindu nuffin?

>>2834760
Mandela seems more 50,30. He was in jail for a long ass time and he isn't quite as devastating as some of the higher ups. Putting him around same level as George Bush makes sense.

>>2834706
Mussolini 40 suffering 65 deserved it.

>>2834706
Who is (5,75)?

>>2834830
Quick reminder that the only time Sicily was mafia-free in the first half of the 20th century was when Mussolini was in power.

Reminder that after the allies "liberated" south Italy, the crime rates jumped higher than Mt Everest.

Carolus Rex (70, 30)

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>>2834704
>>2834712
>>2834682
Already on the chart.

>>2834749
>>2834760
>>2834802
>>2834771
>>2834772
>>2834830
>>2834951

>>2834833
It's on the thread. The last prince of France, Louis XVII.

>>2835070
>obama
>25-15

lol

Pope Francis (x 45, y 30)

>>2835070
Don't see why you'd want to include scientists like Newton or Einstein here. Almost all of them would occupy the bottom left box.
Political leaders, military generals, or perhaps other miscellaneous famous people should belong here.
Those scientists didn't do anything particularly evil or bad. They just contributed to science (which was their job).

>>2835070
Idi Amin 5,80

>>2835070
Michael Collins 40,60
Benedict Arnold 50,5
Judas Iscariot 100, 20

where would Princess Diana place?
she didn't have much suffering, just an early death
?,15 maybe

Jeb (10, 100)

>>2835070
Nicky and John I should each be moved over a space or two on how much they deserved it over to the 70 column.
>>2835142
That is why they should be included. Bottom left is harder to find people for. That and they were important historical figures.

>>2835272
>Princess Diana
Literally just a celebrity. While were at it why don't we include Paris Hilton and Kim Kardashian?

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>>2835135
>>2835157
>>2835252
>>2835290
Keep posting.

>>2835142
Which is perfect. I don't really know how else we would fill that part and they fit pretty well there.

>>2835070
Raoul Wallenberg (60,5)
Guy saved tens of thousands of Jews during WWII only to be sent to some Soviet prison

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>>2835319
Jeb

Alexander Dubček (x 10, y 65)
Mother Theresa (x 5, y 20)
Amadeus Mozart (x 10, y 25)
Haile Selaisse (x 45, y 60)

>>2835332
Selassie*

>>2835328
Meant (5, 60) sorry

Dalai Llama
(5,20)
He had to escape Tibet and all. He's still harassed by the Chinese.

>>2835319

Frederick Chopin 40 suffering, 5 deserving

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>>2835339
Forgot picture

>>2835319
Take Jeb! off there. He still is part of one of the richest family's in the word and he didn't get crucified.

Not only that but the Bush family has fucked America quite a bit over the last few decades.

Hannibal 25,40

>>2835353
>this autism

Osama Bin Laden (x90, y85)

>>2835362
>Bin Laden deserves it more that people with 100,000s of deaths on their hands.
Hows it going over there at the CIA?

>>2835384
He recruited thousands and ruined Afghanistan, I'm not talking about his crimes against the US, but against Afghanistan.

Another suggestion:

Getulio Vargas (x 45, y 50)

>>2835319
What the fuck is Bomber Harris doing at 80, 10?
Move him to 50, 10

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>>2835339
>>2835332
>>2835328
>>2835341
>>2835353
Unless someone gives me a better rundown about Jeb, he'll be with the other american politicians there.
>>2835362
>>2835398
Was thinking of putting him in a somewhat fair spot too.
>>2835413

Whom is 90,5

>>2835398
Soviets did a lot more to ruin Afghanistan and it wasn't like Afghanistan was a great place to start with.

He's still pretty terrible but he isn't quite on the level of Vlad or Lenin. He'd fit more in around 70

>>2830497
>>2830665
Hideki Tojo because of his failed suicide should be (85,60).

>>2835425
where the hell did Bruno go though.

William the Conquerer needs to be changed to have more suffering imo.

Also add the following
Ashoka 40,10
Cao Cao 50,20
Puyi 15,100
Lu Bu 90,90
Jesse James 70,70
Robert E Lee 20,60

>>2835427
*Whomst

>>2835425
Mother Teresa should at least be a 40 on deserve. She was not a humanitarian.
She had HUGE donation from people all around the world and she didn't use any of it on improving people's lives.
In her own words, her aim was to spread Christianity, not charity.
She's a disgrace honestly because she flew in private jets while her "charities" lacked the most basic of facilities.
Please move her to much further right.

Raynald of Chatillon 55,50

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>>2835451

>>2835456
Fuck off. I'm a Christian myself. (Not a Catholic though)

>>2835425
sorry, but Mozart shouldn't deserve just 5. He provoked the monarchy, he saw it coming.

>>2835437
Perhaps you are right, he should be neighboring Rasputin in this list. Maybe under Trotsky.

>>2835425
Ante Pavelic (100, 30)
Nicolae Ceaușescu (100, 50)
Not fully /his/ but Jeffrey Dahmer (100,100)

Why is there a bunch of bones on 5,10?

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>no sign of Leopold II on the pic

>>2830907
Jews would be 100 suffering and 0 deserve in cuckistan

>>2835451
Seconding this.

Caligula 60, 45

>>2832664
It's common knowledge JP2 raped little children

>>2835485
>Jews would be 100 suffering and 0 deserve in cuckistan
And 0 suffering and 100 deserved on /pol/.

Voltaire
10,10

>>2835425
Enver Pasha 90,15
Luigi Cadorna 75,20

>>2835464
>Perhaps you are right, he should be neighboring Rasputin in this list. Maybe under Trotsky.
He'd make a good 70,70. CIA funded stooge who was then eliminated by America.

>>2835425
Carter too high
Reagan too low

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Hadrian: 35; 60

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>>2835437
>>2835454
>>2835464
>>2835533
Is this good for Bin Laden?
>>2835466
I don't think we could just give away a 100.100 like this, Anon.
>>2835499
>>2835511
>>2835527

>>2835427
Josef Mengele. A legitimate sadistic nazi doctor.

>>2835477
It's on the thread. It's the fossil of australopithecus Lucy.

>>2835477
I'm also wondering about that.

>>2835481
also this

>>2835607
I think it is fair enough for Mr. Bin Laden.

>>2835607
Thanks for adding mine >>2835444
How come FDR is so low on suffering yet so high on deserved it? I'd swap it around so it's 30,80 and not 80,30, which I suspect is what the anon who suggested it meant.

>>2835588
>Hadrian: 35; 60
Hardian had a pretty good life though.

>>2835607
My suggestion.

Put Leopold II in the place of Tojo. He was far more cruel.
Put Tojo in x95 y20 blank space. He abdicated and that's some suffering.

And good lord... you really fell in the "Evil Ma Theresa" meme. She didn't deserved more than Putin.
Actually, Putin should be bellow Mr. George W. Bush imo

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How much is he worth, /his/?

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Ho Chih Minh (25,75)

He was just trying to let Vietnam be Vietnam

>>2835640
>Ho Chih Minh (25,75)
The North Vietnamese Army and the Viet Cong did some pretty horrendous things though that he could be held at least partially responsible for.
>>2835633
Putin is too low on the deserving scale.

Churchill. 80,10. Masterminded Gallipoli, insisted on fighting and ruining Germany, ruined the British Empire.

Toussaint Louverture 70,80
Simon Bolivar 25,75 (high suffering due to tarnished legacy)
Jose de San Martin 25,80
Sitting Bull 15,60
Pedro II 10,75
Gandhi (surprised he isn't on, unless I'm blind) 10,70

>>2835664
>ruined the British Empire
That's Atlee and Macmillan. Churchill was too much of a dithering old fool to do much in the 50s. He should have never been reelected.

>>2835633
>Putin should be bellow Mr. George W. Bush imo
Yeah. And Obama should be where Putin currently is.

>>2835664
alright ill give you that

>>2835607
revised Ho Chih Minh to (35,60)

>>2835639
5,5

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>>2835627
>>2835588
>>2835633
>>2835640
>>2835664
>>2835681
Not sure if it's this Pedro II.

>>2835722
Faisal II of Iraq, (5,65)

(10, 100) - God

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Pedro II of Brazil - 65; 5.

Turned a failing empire into a continental power. Wise and great as no other brazilian ruler. Guaranteed 50 years of stable government and excessive democracy.

Only to be topped by a military coup during his last years and seeing his country being turned into a banana republic from the exile.

>>2835722
Why'd you move FDR like that? He really didn't suffer that much in perspective. Certainly not more than Ghandi, Poe, MLK, Anne Frank, ect.

40, 35 would be a better spot for him.

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>>2835722
Musashi, (15, 15)

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where would I be without this chart of random opinions

>>2835749
I suggested Pedro II as 10,75.

>>2835749
Learn co-ordinates please.

>>2835749
That's 5,65 then

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>>2835711
Good one. The meme man is more worthy for that spot.
>>2835703
>>2835738
>>2835749
>>2835752
>>2835759

>>2835760
>stop having fun guise
You must be fun at parties.

What about Rosa Luxembourg

>>2835815
>Rosa Luxembourg
30,30?
Play stupid games, win stupid prizes.

>Athanasios Diakos
He was a monk that fought during the Greek War of Independence and had a heroic last stand near Thermopylae until he was captured. Because he refused to convert to Islam the Ottomans impaled him.

Put him in 90,10

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>>2835842
Here's the image

>>2835842
Learn how to coordinates.

10,90

>>2835842
10,90 surely.

Remember it's "along the corridor and up the stairs". X axis then Y axis.

>>2835809
how are shit opinions fun?

>>2835801
Didn't change FDR.

>>2835849
>>2835853
Shit I'm retarded. Off to kill myself

>>2835801
>puyi
>100 suffering
At least he could die peacefully as a gardener, thats 35-40 at most compared to the other ones.

>>2835856
>calls out opinions as shit
>doesn't offer anything to counter these opinions

>>2835864
I'm interrupting suffering as not just death, but hardships felt throughout life. Puyi spent a decade in prison and watched as his country changed for the worse. That and he spent his last few years in fear of being attacked by Maoists.

Stalin was beaten to near death frequently to where he was pissing blood, so he should be higher

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Pedro I of Brazil

45,75

Secured formal independence for Brazil. But was an authoritarian prick whom sent thugs to beat journalists.

He humiliated his own wife by having extramarital affairs with a certain marquess. She died in sorrow soon after and he did not seem to care.

He had to deal with portuguese affairs even after independence and was forced to abdicate in 1831.

Returning to Portugal, he fought a civil war against his absolutist brother and won, dying shortly after, preventing his plan to conquer Spain.

>>2835878
Sounds like you mixed up the coordinates...

>>2835881

No, he did suffer more than he deserved.

>>2835878
Brazil... conquer spain? Go on

>>2835681
>>2835722
Louverture was against the massacre, he should be more on the left (like 45) at least

>>2833238
>jesus
Jesus didn't deserve it a bit? He was a revolutionary leader, calling for rebellion against the foreign force. He was very violent in the way that Zizek describes Gandhi.

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>>2835885

He was forced to abdicate the brazilian throne in 1831 and return to Portugal. There he fough a civil war against his absolutist brother and became Pedro IV of Portugal. Spanish liberals invited him to become king of Spain but his death prevented this.

He was also invited to become king of Greece.

>>2835886
That is a fair point. I wouldn't put him as low down as 45.

Is the other guy noteworthy enough to include on this list though?

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>>2835815
>>2835835
>>2835842
>>2835870
>>2835874
How much higher exactly? His spot is pretty crowded.
>>2835878
He really was a scoundrel compared to Pedro II. Sheesh.
>>2835886
>>2835889
This is a Christian imageboard, Anon.

>>2835889
>Pay your taxes
Such a rebel against the state. He was a dissednent fro. The corrupt Pharisee establishment.

>Bomber Harris
>higher deserved than suffering

Sow the wind, reap the whirlwind. Krauts started it, we finished it.

>>2835914
Add the high priest who lead the charge to crucify Jesus. His name is Caiaphas.
Also put the Virgin Mary under Jesus at 99.

>>2835914
>How much higher exactly? His spot is pretty crowded.
Stalin is fine where he is. Pissing blood is a fine exchange for gulags and the Holodomor.

>>2835914
Move Obongo to 90,25

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>>2835932
>>2835903
>>2835935

>>2835968
Who? Louverture?

>>2835989
Did you already put enver Hoxha somewhere?

>>2835989
Why is Mandela so low, wasn't he in solitary for like 2 decades?

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>>2835989
Woman flattened by forklift, 20,65

>>2835989
Hernan Cortez 80,20
Francisco Pizarro 60,75
Vasco Nunez de Balboa 60,50

>>2835989
Add Ulysses and Helen of Troy somewhere toward the lower deserving end

>>2835989
Perillos of Athens 100,100

>>2836043
Phalaris might be more fitting.

>>2835898
Damn, imagine his dynasty inheriting the thrones of Europe

>>2836061
He wasn't put in the bull though.

>>2836043
No, that should be the Spaniard conquistador that was forced to drink molten gold because he had enslaved and terrorized the indians to get him gold.

>>2835874
when did that happen?

>>2835989
Obama to 90,25

>>2836081
He was though when he was overthrown.

>>2835989
>Mandela should suffer more than Bush
What the fuck is wrong with this chart?

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>>2836003
the fuck even is this meme

>>2836028
>>2836043
Thought of putting him once, but the only despiction of him looks like shit when it's that small. I'll just put it now.
>>2836090
Source?

>>2836035
>>2836119
I'm gonna need the ratings to change things around, you know.

>>2836114
Maybe adding american politicians was a mistake.

>>2836137
Make Mandela 35, 45 at least

>>2836137
Gandhi 30, 65

>>2836137
William Wallace 20, 95

>>2836159
I second this

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>>2836137
Change Luigi Cadorna (75,20) to Conrad von Hotzendorf

>>2836137
>No Catherine de Medici (85,20)

Why is cruxifiction considered the most painful and not something like >>2836129

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>>2830497
70/80 for ol Benito

>>2830497
Buddha 5,5

>>2836184
Christian imageboard, friendo

>>2830497
Peter the I: 65; 60

>>2836137
>Maybe adding american politicians was a mistake.
Told you. Just take Obama off completely.

>>2836201
>>2836190

Fair enough

>>2836129
Why did he deserved it?

Was it the curse of his surname?

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>>2836152
>>2836153
I'm gonna need an explanation first.
>>2836159
>>2836163
>>2836115
>>2836170
This good enough?
>>2836171

>>2831833
Who's 95, 5?

>>2836137
Sargon of Akkad 90,20

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>>2836215
Oda Nobunaga was a cunt who played dirty and also managed to unify most of Japan. He was both a hero and a brutal opportunist. He was betrayed by his own men and commited seppuku, surrounded, as his soldiers set the inn he was in on fire. 80 suffering 65 deserved it.

>>2836215
Nice, but William Wallace should be the Mel Gibson picture.

Lithuania 50;100

>>2836215
Move Putin over to 45,15 and bring FDR to 45,40.

Socrates 10,20
Theodore Roosevelt 15,25

>>2836215
Shouldnt Ouchi be 10 deserving wise?

>>2836215
gandhi was a prick
he was disrespectful. he was also a law student

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William Bligh (20,30)

>>2836215
Bashar Al Assad 70;60

>>2836215
St. Paul 55,55
Martyred and imprisoned mostly without reason but his teaches mostly ruined Christ's message.

Thomas Edison 25,5
Stole a decent amount of inventions and was generally just a cunt.

>>2836258
Socrates did not suffer. Taking hemlock was a personal victory

Lao Ai 85,90

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>>2830497
10 , 95
fought for the allies and had to suffer a lifelong of hell through PTSD

>>2836248
Speaking of Japan
Tokugawa Ieyasu 40,25
Toyotomi Hideyoshi 70,10
Inejiro Asanuma 80,85

Latvia 50;90

>>2836302
>murderer
>as innocent as gandhi, jeb bush, mozart, newton
no
>>2836215
You'd better move him and jeanne d'arc to the 15 slot

>>2836275
Crossing the ocean in a boat, then having your name smeared with lies, nah, it should be at least 30,50.

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Patriarch Gregory V of Constantinople 5,70
On Easter Sunday after the ceremony he was hanged for two days from the main gate of the Patriarchate by the Ottomans. After that the Jews took his body dragged it through the streets and threw it into the sea.

>>2836304
I'll throw in some more East Asians.
Qin Shi Huang 85,100
Zheng He 15,10
Yuan Shikai 50,15
Deng Xiaoping 10,60

>>2836328
I think the deserving deserves to be lower given he had to see his work in Australia ruined and was betrayed by the British Foreign Office and the incoming Governor.

>>2836348
>Qin Shi Huang
>suffering that high
In what way?

>>2836215
Put Mell gibson's willuam wallace in 95, 20

>>2836377
I can't imagine mercury poisoning was a particularly pleasant way to die.

>>2830707
Pol pot deserved more suffering than he got.

>>2836392
SHIT I'M READING THE GRAPH WRONG I TAKE THAT BACK.

>>2836386
Honestly it's not the worst, you just lose brain functioning and physical ability over a period of months, like an aggressive Alzheimer's where you're aware the entire time that you are getting less and less cognizant until you wake up one day and realize you can't think for more than 10 seconds at a time and can't even put on a shirt and in your moments of clarity realizing there is no cure and no hope.

>>2836215
Who's (90,0)?

>>2836386
It doesn't exactly warrant an 85 though.

Mary, Queen of Scotts. 40,50

>>2836386
It's not about how painful your death was. It's all about how painful, sorrowful and hard your life was as a whole. That's why Jesus is at the top. And for the same reason the guy at 100, 20 should be removed.
>>2836215
Take notice, remove the guy from 100,20 for the reason i just outlined

>>2836402
Zodiac killer?

>>2836415
Having the most painful death in human history earns a position up there even if your general sentiments are correct

>>2836215
Who is at bottom left?

>>2836215
>vlad the impaler
>deserved it

>>2836450
Diogenes
>>2836440
Dr. Mengele

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>>2836188
>>2836189
Already there.

>>2836190
>>2836244
>>2836248
>>2836253
>>2836255
>>2836258
It's getting really annoying to move those politicians around.
>>2836266
I guess I can move him one square more.
>>2836275
>>2836328
>>2836282
>>2836291
>>2836299
>>2836302
>>2836304
>>2836305
>>2836319
>>2836330

>>2836487
top kek thanks for the change in Wallace senpai.

>>2836480
I think Unit 731 as a whole earns that coveted 100,0 spot

>>2836487
>lithuanian and latvian flags
wat

>>2836487
Menelik II in (15, 10)

>>2836495
There is already a 100,0. That whole corner has been filled up.

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Muhammad (40,80)

>>2836487
Reinhard Heydrich (95, 45)

>>2836487
Rene Descartes (15, 20)

>>2836487
Noice

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Objectively correct correction

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Lindybeige (35,40)

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>>2836348
>>2836361
>>2836386
>>2836405
>>2836415
You're correct, but that guy's suffering is way up there too and if we try to fill it only with people that suffered as much as Jesus, then we'll never actually fill that row. For now, he can stay there.

>>2836547
I'd move Arthur Harris to the left a bit, add Germany as a whole above lenin and hitler, move Qaddafi two squares to the right, Mandela to the right, and Ceausescu down one.

>>2836563
How about no generalizations like "x nation is the bane of humanity"? Is the banter value worth it to just, put a flag up there?

Obama 90,25
>failed socialist policies (see Obamacare)
>won Nobel Prize even though he's a warmonger as much as Bush
>drones and bombing people everyday
>Arab Spring
>trayvon case shitshow ("muh racism")
>spying

>>2836547
can we move Socrates to (5,25)? he's such an important person and all of his actions have been vindicated

>>2836576
This. Stop putting country flags on there. This isn't /int/.

>>2836576
It's more of that Germany has suffered shitloads due to their actions.

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>>2836514
Already there.

>>2836517
>>2836518
>>2836530
>>2836563
That's better. But this is the first time Qaddafi is mentioned in this thread. Also German flag has been retired before.
>>2836539
>>2836587

>>2836576
I think it depends. Cuba for example, had nothing but misery and corruption in its lifetime as a nation with some small eventual spasms of fortune. If the flag suggestion is obviously bullshit, then it won't be put. Please explain which flags do you think should be retired.

>>2836639
>Already there.

Isnt that a picture of Ali not Muhammad?

Alexander Hamilton 20,25
Moses 30,50
Christopher Columbus 65,30
Confucius 25,35

>>2836508
They are all on the 5 slot. The 0 slot can't be filled out on this chart.

>>2836639
Radovan Karadžić 75;40

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>>2836639
>He put the meme youtuber on there

>>2836639
Throwing out some leaders from Civ 5 and Civ 6.
Casimir III of Poland 10,20
Shaka Zulu 35,40 (let's get rid of Lindy Beige shall we)
Catherine the Great 20,55
Peter the Great 35,40

>>2836639
Nero 90, 25