Why is he admired so much? Only thing he did was to bring misery

>>2828554

>limp-wristed basement-dwelling neet who can't comprehend the concept of glory

go ahead and crack open that 4th mountain dew of the day before replying

>>2828583
killing and raping is glory?

>>2828554
>implying that conquering nearly every relevant region of the known world, despite being at a disadvantage (disease, logistics, mobilization, etc), while still being a fucking 20 year old boy is fucking amazing. This combined with his relentless persistence make him a symbolic inspiration for almost every (classical) leader and commander.

And do you even know how significant the Hellenistic influence was for the whole region?

>>2828612
sure its amazing, its also amazing how fast the black death spread.
Doesn't make it good or worth of admiration though

You might as well lord that smug sense of moral superiority over literally ever leader ever
He's the great cuz he conquered a lot of shit really quick more than you will ever amount to

>>2828606

Of course.
It requires strength and power.

>>2828618
His persistence and his accomplishments deserve admiration - Because many attempted to do what Alexander did and failed, hard. He did what nobody else could, and thus set the standard for what is humanly possible.

Yes, 'great' in its contemporary usage has mainly positive connotations. But 'great' mainly refers to the facts that his deeds were 'great' in the sense that he had an enormous impact and conquered the known world. Whether the effects of these actions were positive or negative isn't relevant for this title.

>>2828554
Why is any military or political leader admired? Almost every leader we think of as great brought suffering to some other country or even parts of his own. Generally speaking, every leader throughout history was guilty of some crime, Alexander included. Alexander is admired because he was a single man who changed history, the same reason any historical figure is admired, regardless of what evil they caused.

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-Starts era of Greek dominance
-Downright golden age
-still influence militaries today
-promoted religious tolerance
-conquered 90% of the whole world
*gets critiqued on fucking 4chan

>>2828606
killing definitely is

>>2828656
>>2829073
I hope you never find yourself on the recieving end of such glorious deeds

>>2828621
most leader we able to create a stable realm where trade and art could florish
Alexander didn't acchieve that.
He was a bane of Persians, destroying much of their art and killing so many people for literally nothing

>>2828682
Because most leaders didn't only destroy, but also create
Alexander was destruction only

>>2828554
Because people only care about what you achieved before thirty.

>>2829327
False

>>2829309
>in order to oppose people killing you you need to oppose killing in general
lol

>>2829370
oh i see, so you like Alexander because it was /ourguys/ doing the killing and raping?

>>2829327
he created entire cities

you're American aren't you?

>>2829546
he destroyed WAY more cities than he created

>>2829616
name them

>>2829616
>shifting the goal posts

>>2828554
bcuz he fuccd the boipucci

>>2829062
>conquered 90% of the whole world
Way more. China and India were still known then.

>>2828656
You mean if you're a Westerner. All I hear from this shit board is how much the Ottomans and the Turk's sucked. Boo hoo.

Alexander was cool and shit happens OP.

>>2828666
So you say that he's more like "the big"?

>>2831882

China wasn't known to the greeks back then.

>>2828554
>why was he admired so much
not many people have conquered as much shit as he did, anon

>>2832375
I believe he meant "unknown"

>>2832399

by that logic hitler and stalin should be glorified. or do they not count because theyre modern and modern people have more rights and feelings than a bunch of people 2000 years ago who dont matter

>>2829320
No. Hellenistic culture had a huge influence on the region.

Also the bane of Persia is GK, because he literally cleansed the people so hard their population didn't recover until modern times.

>>2833763
Hitler and Stalin are great figures in history, doesn't mean people like them. Words can have more than one connotation, do you have aspergers syndrome?

>>2828554
competence. it's rare.

>>2829062
>90%

yeah look at all those empty deserts he conquered

>>2833840
A lot more empty desert than most leaders in history

>>2829062
>Alexander conquered 90% of the whole world
anon...

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>>2829370
t. internet tough guy

>>2829062
He only conquered part of asia and small bits of southeastern europe and north africa. Hardly 90%, maybe 15%.

>>2828554
Simple - he invaded backwards peasants and gave them civilization. Much like the colonial Empires.