I want to know about 70s and 80s central american commie guerrillas:

>>2820852
bumping for interest

>>2820852
Nicaragua is still a shithole ruled by Daniel "Captain Clusterfuck" Ortega and his wife, who is a literal witch, Rosario Murillo.

Nicaraguans just dont learn. They never do.

>>2820852
where did those weapons came from?

>>2821169
The Sandanistas armed the FMLN.

Also, the Cubans and Russians were everywhere.

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Most were righteous popular movements against the US interventionism and dictatorial governments.

Sadly, as with most insurgencies, once their original leaders died or got old the movements strayed from their path and became greedy oppressive organisms.

>>2821173
This is true but the Soviet Union also armed the FMLN and the US armed and trained the official government's army.

>>2821169
mostly taken from the american-backed army
altought the M-16s could be from stocks captured by the north vietnamese
there were every kind of rifle in central american conflicts, from www1 mausers to israeli galils

>>2820852
guerrillas relied heavily on kiddie soldiers, the governement did the same with forced conscription at 16 or even less

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>>2821184
>Israeli galils
Oy vey

>>2820852
FMLN, FSLN, URNG were national fronts, not necessarily marxist in ideology but leftist in general and there were a good deal of catholics in it.
Now Sendero was a batshit insane sect and FARC a narco organization

>>2820852
Reminds me of a story
>Am American
>highschool world geography/demographics class
>British documentary on Colombian drug related stuff
>Class laughs every time the narrator says FARC
>"These villagers are poor. Youths often are tempted over to FUARK where they can make money selling cocaine."
>"FUARK is everywhere in this area."
>"The local Colombian Captain escorted us through here to protect us from FAURK."

>>2821139
>who is a literal witch


high or just dumb?

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>>2820852
My parents are from El Salvador, my uncle, dad and grandpa fought the commies and my maternal grandfather raised a militia against the Commies in the rural areas of El Salvador

That being said, one of my uncles fought with the commies, either way I have a lot of knowledge on the Salvadoran Civil War

AMA

>>2820852
>tfw my family was fmln in the war
>>2821181
Israel also armed the gov forces

Why did they fight the commies to support a corrupt shit hole government?

>>2821202
israel also sold arms to rhodesia and apartheid south africa despite pretty much the entire rest of the world sanctioning them
wonder how white nationalist antisemites reconcile that

>>2824963
Breaking the sanctions for profit

>>2822774

How did they conduct counter-insurgency tactics amongst the towns and villages? With an iron-fist or hearts and minds?

>>2824907

Because communists tend to be worst than any corrupt ineffective government.

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>>2825144
It depended on the situation, from what my family tells me there were some villages that complied and actively supported them, like my maternal grandpas town but the truth was that villages and town in areas with heavy guerrilla activity were destroyed and genocided, especially if a patrol or convoy got hit near them

Even more fucked up is that they usually were hiding guerrillas, weapons or were the guerrillas themselves, there was a point where they just said fuck it and started waxing entire villages while the guerrillas left them high and dry to hide in the mountains

What really annoys me is that today the FMLN are painted as some kind of heroic, infallible group of ragtag freedom fighters, the truth is that they were just as crooked as the government forces and, according to my uncle, the students who left San Salvador to fight in hills harbored a disdain for the peasants they claimed to be fighting for, especially as the war dragged on and the money from the Cubans and other other commie countries stopped flowing

My mother, who lived in a rural area, feared the Communists more than the government and with good reason, they threatened to destroy a community that had begun growing around my grandfathers plantation, enough that most of the townspeople wanted to get armed and fight of the communists trying to take their livelihood away, eventually by '85 they were nothing but a bunch of raiders and rapists who took their toll on the community

>>2825184
what stance did the church take during the war?

>>2825198
The Catholics (i.e Oscar Romero) were backing the communists, some overtly but others behind the scenes, my parents were protestants and said most protestant churches and ministers were either backing the government, seeing them as the lesser of two evils, or tried to remain neutral, this was difficult at the height of the war and my father tells me that guerrillas in more urban areas began harassing and even murdering ministers who refused to harbor communists or hide weapons in their churches

>>2825144
Guatemala went full genocidal, the country is full of mass graves. Death toll estimated 400.000

>>2825428
Weren't most of the people who got murdered indigenous or something?

Same thing happened in El Salvador, the native population was damn near destroyed in 1932 and again in the 80s, the poor fuckers are just prone to falling for the Marxism meme and its not like those "enlightened" revolutionaries and students think highly of them either, to them they're just fodder so that they can take over under a red flag

>>2824963
I guess that some will admit that Isreal is one of the most /pol/ tier first world country.

>>2826097
>Weren't most of the people who got murdered indigenous or something
Yes, but that's not saying much when half of the country is indio.

>>2826097
It's not surprising natives fall for marxism they are usually poorer and rural (shining path, zapatistas). In El Salvador during the 30s those indigenous groups were exploited and they rebelled. This uprising was painted as a communist leaning revolt, but it had more to do with indians tired of putting up with what they did. Because the government was also combatting communists they painted the two as the same and dealt with them severely. In Guatemala the indigenous were mostly neutral wanting to stay out of the war but the government didn't see it that way and genocided the Ixil Maya.

>>2822715
Not that guy, but she says she is a literal witch

>spells
>potions
>crazy dances
>doesn't shave
>etc

Its very bizarre

Chile was the only Latin American country that ever prospered.

>>2824963
>implying an israeli would pass up the opportunity to make some money and see the goyim kill one another at the same time
you think in such small terms.

>>2827319
>you think in such small terms.
Is this a movie quote?

>>2827321
It might be, I watch a lot of movies. Flicks and Kino as well.

>>2827249
Yea, my great grandpa was was full blooded native that saved himself and his village the '32 uprisings by siding with the government, he was pretty damn lucky but now there are barely any pure blooded Pipil natives

From what my folks tell me, most natives that were murdered in '32 weren't even commies, once the Gov't found out that some natives were helping the commies, it was open season on all of them

Imagine that, being caught in between a rock and a hard place