Redpill me on the Northern Cities Vowel Shift /his/, what is it? When did it start? Why did it start?
>>2816185
What: obviously a vowel shift. The most obvious is pronouncing "bag" like "bayg" etc. Also the cot-caught merger is common in these regions.
When: 19th century
Why: I don't think linguists have tried to explain that.
>>2816219
>Also the cot-caught merger is common in these regions.
I thought the shift prevented the cot-caught merger?
>>2816219
also: could you post an example of what someone with the shift sounds like? I haven't been able to find any
>>2816240
same
I'm also from the region (Chicago to be specific) and don't have that merger
>>2816240
I'm from southeastern michigan and say those words differently
>>2816185
From Cleveland - very few people here have this, it almost sounds likely the Pennsylvania Dutch accent.
And no one here says 'cot'
>>2816948
>And no one here says 'cot'
What do you mean?
>>2817071
cot-caught, see previous posts
>>2817075
Cot is a word. What you said is nonsense, so I want to know what you mean by "no one here says cot". I'm guessing it has something to do with pronounciation
>>2817092
Not cot as in 'I slept on a cot'. 'Cot' as an alternate pronunciation of 'caught'
>>2816219
I'm from Boston and recognize both caught and cot are pronounced "cat"