How do we stop collectivism? It is the greatest threat to human

>>2815131

Humans are inherently collectivist. Very few achievements of note are the product of just 1 person.

>>2815136
t. union worker

>>2815161

t mcdonalds worker

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>>2815131
The problem with anarchists, communists and right-wing libertarian types is that they don't get that humans are a species that live in groups to survive. Any group needs rules that govern interactions to function and thus survive, and those rules can only exist if there is some ability to enforce them. Any population size that exceeds the ability for everyone to know everyone else personally, and thus operate using simple social pressures, must create a codified impersonal system of rules to be administered consistently. This of course necessitates an authority ,whether democratic or authoritarian, to decide upon and enforce those rules and WHOOPS! you have a government. Libertarians, Communists, and Anarchists wanting to get rid of government and states are like Ant's going without a colony or Bee's without a hive. You can't get rid of states without getting rid of humans because states whether democratic or tyrannical are an integral part of human social behavior.

>>2815136
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>>2815191
collectivism is not cooperation, libertarianism is not anarchism (and Ayn Rand was neither), read more books

>>2815237
>libertarianism is not anarchism

It literally came from anarchists being banned from publishing in France. What Americans call libertarianism is not.

>>2815265
makes me mad when americans talk about "libertarianism". they hijacked that word so badly. we get it, you hate roads and other people.

man being chained to collective action for the common good is literally the foundation of humanity's rise from the natural world.

>>2816908
The meaning of words change over time, get over it.

Are you one of those obnoxious people who use the word "liberal" in the 18th century sense?

>>2815131
>commies ITT can't differentiate between voluntary association and totalitarianism

>>2815131
(((Ayn Rand)))

>>2815131
>collectivism is the greatest threat to human advancement
No it isn't.

>and individualism
No it isn't.

Sage.

>>2815131
Individualism should be destroyed

>>2815131
Yeah Ayn, we live in a society. We are expected to do that which is for the common good. Thats why people who willingly sacrfice for the greater good are called heros. I fucking hate individualists so much. They constantly describe collectivists as mindless zombies when in reality we make a conscious effort to work for the greater good of the collective instead of being selfish whiny bitches who cant get enough attention. She was the living embodiment of anarchocapitalism and she makes me sick

>>2817101
>We are expected to do that which is for the common good
Like massacre hundreds of millions and bury them in mass graves?

>>2815131
Didn't that cunt claim medicare and welfare after a lifetime of criticising state intervention

>>2815131
Name a single female philosopher who wasn't total shit, seriously. I think Ayn is one of the most famous ones and she was a literal retard.

>>2816927
Yes

>>2816927
>Are you one of those obnoxious people who use the word "liberal" in the 18th century sense?

Everyone does outside of Burgerland, even the english.
Only for americans a socialist is named "liberal".

>>2815237
Well said.

>>2817113
yea, but she claimed that she only took what she paid for via taxes

>>2815131
individualism creates a common good too, it just turns out that that common good is always retarded

>>2817111
It's so fuckin' worth it sometimes.

>>2819775
They don't, they just use it as an expy for "centrist" and usually social democracy supporting centrism.

Classical liberalism is DEAD

>>2820595
It can't be dead if I still am a Classical liberal. Checkmate Paul Ryan.

The man who is proudly certain of his own value, will want the highest type of woman he can find, the woman he admires, the strongest, the hardest to conquer—because only the possession of a heroine will give him the sense of an achievement, not the possession of a brainless slut.

Ayn Rand, Atlas Shrugged