>when you tell crusade apologist (b-but muhslim expansion)

Crusaderboos make me cringe. Nothing funnier than seeing a barely-religious overweight 20-something NEET say "deus vult xD", especially when you consider that their ancestors utterly failed their objective.

>>2788211
>about a crusade that was excommunicated
>about heretics being killed and not bending the knee, who were also sexual deviants
But that fits all larper logic
>>2788324
>fail objective
>take holy land for a time
>keep ERE running for an extra 100 years

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>>2788324
>20-something
More like 14

>>2788336
>Implying the aid of the crusader states outweighs the Sack of Constantinople and installment of the Latin Empire.

>>2788419
The fourth crusade being a cockup doesn't diminish the successes of the first crusade.

The many, many issues of the first crusade do of course diminish its own success, but pointing at the fourth and saying "all crusades sucked because this one was really shit" isn't exactly fair.

>>2788419
>the excommunicated crusade matters
how high are you

>>2788419
does the failure of the 2000's Iraq war mean all crusades were failures?

>>2788211
The cathars deserved it.
Absolutely subversive group. Even worse than commies.

>>2788434
The Venetians were the only ones who were excommunicated, and they really didn't care. The Pope threatened excommunication on the crusaders, but later rescinded after it was argued that the Crusaders were poor dindus who were manipulated by the Venetians.

>>2788419
ERE actually reclaimed most of Anatolia thanks to the first crusade, before the first crusade the muslims were not far from Constantinople so it is definitely plausible that it would have fallen sooner if it werent for the first crusade

>>2788211
>it's a butthurt Muslim apologist tries to undermine the Islamic expansionism narrative by pointing out that Constantinople fell to Islamic expansionism episode

Cathars were literal faggots.

lol why do muslims and their redditor numale pets get so butthurt about memes about battles from the 11th century? pathetic

>>2788336
>>about a crusade that was excommunicated
the crusaders got excommunicated for taking the Catholic city Zara. When they sacked Constantinople they were forgiven and let ack into the Church.