Should there be a human right to die? No matter the circumstances? Is it really more moral for people to be isolated to their mind about suicide for fear of being locked up in a loony bin? Not to mention chance of pain, suffering and permanent damage as well as trauma to the person who has to find them.
>>2782099
For people with terminal illnesses, who are in suffering, I say they should have the right to choose to end their lives. If not that, to be put into a coma until they die naturally.
In cases of depression and suicidal tendencies, I'm not so sure. People can recover from that shit somewhat, and usually suicidal ideation isn't there to stay.
>>2782099
Yes because killing yourself is abnormal
>>2782099
>Should there be a human right to die?
No. The moment you legalize euthanasia, you open up a pandora's box where insurance companies will actively pressure older patients into killing themselves.
>>2784527
True, but there would be a cooling off time and the family would be informed
People not in their right mind don't have the authority to make decisions for themselves.
If you want to kill yourself, you're not in your right mind.
Ergo, they do not have the right to take their own life.
>>2782331
Cure for depression is not permanent. It never is. They always relapse if they're even cured. For some its never cured.
>>2782099
We got that here, Switzerland, assisted suicide is legal under certain conditions, and the system works just fine. The right to assisted suicide was uphold by popular vote twice, Christian right was against it, but they lost the votes soundly. Somehow they enjoy to see people suffer. Now we got people from all over Europe getting here and using our system.
If you are terminally ill and suffer, yes, then it is your right to take that decision and end your life, because as a human you are sovereign over your own life.
>>2782099
There are no human rights, fuck off.
>>2786628
>Somehow they enjoy to see people suffer
I support the idea of the right to suicide but holy shit you're a fucking moron
>>2786652
Have you ever had a political discussion with those people? They come with Jesus and muh morals, and in the meantime people suffer from terminal diseases in the real world. That can make you really mad.
>>2786681
"Somehow they enjoy to see people suffer". You do realize Christians believe you go to hell if you kill yourself? So no, they don't enjoy people suffering. That is not the motive.
>>2786708
Yeah, Christians believe that you go to hell if you kill yourself, but shutting off life support for example isn't exactly the same as hanging yourself from the rafters when you're a healthy person.
>>2786708
Well fuck them, people suffer because they want everybody to believe in their special edit of that old book. If talking snakes and angels and hell are your thing, go for it, but don't try to force your morals on other people.
Now what really gets me mad, we had that vote twice, and a fairly conservative and redpilled country democratically decided it is ok, and it is your free will that counts.
Now that nowhere else happened in Europe because conservative/religious elements lobby hard to keep it that way, fully knowing in a democratic vote they'd lose and people would want to have that right.
>>2786602
>right mind
still having faith in ''the right mind''
nice way to say you are a spooked numale
>>2786602
Nice circular argument.
>>2784527
I dunno about you but I'd rather die on my own terms peacefully than in an ever escalating barrage of pain, procedures, and costs. I don't think anyone should be pressured into doing so though, but perhaps some cultural propaganda could have more people doing so willingly.
How can countries manage to make assisted suicide painless but not execution?
>>2786745
>and redpilled country
Oh - another /pol/ vermin.
There should be a right for very ill patients, but not an obligation, and it should be regulated with specific parameters.
The real question is why is life a right, but not death?
>>2786708
But what if the patient in question is not Christian, and their beliefs on what happens after killing one self are not of punishment?
>>2788088
>The real question is why is life a right, but not death?
Thank you, this is what I meant in the OP, not just for the ill but really anyone who wants it after speaking to professionals about it.