Why are Africans allowed to appropriate Egyptian history for

Europhobia and Anti-White bigotry.

>>2780233
Because Egypt is in Africa.

That's like saying what are Europeans allowed to appropriate Greco-Roman culture.

>>2780268
>That's like saying what are Europeans allowed to appropriate Greco-Roman culture.
Unless you live under a rock you'd know Italio-Greeks give other Europeans a lot of shit for appropriating our culture.

>>2780280
>>2780233

Ancient Greece and Rome are dead, so too is Egyptian Ancient culture it's not cultural appropriation because no one is "taking" it from another group.

They are appropriating narratives, just as Macedonia does with ancient Macedon or say China claiming 3kys of history as some unified Han front.

Regardless most academics have stated for decades various points but also it's understood now history as we know it for ancient Egypt is far more complex then either extreme narrative.

>>2780304
>Ancient Greece and Rome are dead
Our modern society is the living continuation of Ancient Greece and Rome. Just as Greece and Rome were continuation of the societies before them.

Probably for the same reasons that most other academics don't waste time on other fringe conspiracy theorists.

>>2780309
They're bread bro

>>2780309
Just as Macedonia is the heir to Macedon. The only reason why it's considered fallcious of them to state that is because they are not the powerful who shape and define history.

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>>2780233
Why are North and Northwest Europeans and white Americans allowed to appropriate Greek, Roman, Persian, and Egyptian history for themselves without any refutation or denial from western academia?

>>2780365
>>2780304
>just as Macedonia does with ancient Macedon
>Just as Macedonia is the heir to Macedon.
Can you elaborate on this?

WE

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>>2780304
>China claiming 3kys of history as some unified Han front.
Except they don't

They claim it's "Chinese" history. Not fucking Han. There's a reason why they didn't name the state after the race, idjit.

Totally not the same thing as black people wewuzing or pasty American-Italians pretending to have Viking heritages.

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>>2780233
Isn't that a Nubian?

>>2781058
They weren't Egyptian.

>>2781063
Those things behind him pyramids tho?

>>2781071
Nubian pyramids. Pyramids as a concept aren't unique to Egyptians and the Nubians were influenced by their northern Egyptian neighbors in regards to architecture.

>>2780233
They wuz kangs

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>>2780233
Why are Slavs allowed to appropriate Greek history for themselves without any refutation or denial from Western academia?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KxhMiXV7814

>vid related

>>2781094
Upper Egyptians and Nubians in the predynastic and early dynastic influence were more influencing the lower Egyptians than the opposite.

white guilt

>>2780233
Same reason we let the Hapsburgs be claimed by people with Down's syndrome, why not give a mangy dog a bone so it doesn't bite you

>>2780233
Because it can't be academically refuted?

>>2780233

This video has nothing to do with African Americans. It is news covered from the protests.

>>2781106
Ayy

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egyptians were barely even black
OP's pic is more like sub-saharan African.

>>2781058
>>2781063
>>2781071
FUCKING KUSHIANS

>>2781106
FYROM!

>>2781689
this, persians were even whiter.

>>2781666

turn the subtitles on.

>>2781640

because it's politically incorrect to besmirch africans in anyway

>>2780233
>without any refutation or denial from Western academia?
>which I know cause I am totally familiar with Egyptology
http://anthropology.msu.edu/anp455-fs14/2014/09/18/ancient-egyptian-race-debate/
They do refute that. They trigger you though cause they don't see history as the eternal struggle of the white race.
>There is simply no place where “black” skin ends and white “skin” begins, though many are hoping that by studying the DNA of mummies the racial background of the Ancient Egyptians will be revealed.
>Moreover, race as we know it is a modern concept. Our pattern of white supremacy, which was birthed out of economic concern, only began after African slaves had been brought to the Americas. For the ancients, nationality as we understand it was much more important than whatever shade of skin might have. The Ancient Greeks, for example, considered themselves the premier race based on culture, not color. But these racist ideals were too blinding to early archaeologists, who practically fabricated reason after reason the Ancient Egyptians could only be white. Even more desperately, the Nubians were not escape this pattern of whitewashing.

>>2780233
Nogs with access to twitter think they're scholars now. And African history / culture is nowhere near as interesting or documented as others, so instead of looking into their actual past, they lazily dingleberry themselves onto a more popular one. I mean, blacks saying they wuz fayroahs n sheeit is enough for a laugh, but when they start saying Europe was black until being swept clean by some random chucklefucks from the Caucuses, you're approaching /pol/ territory of tinfoil hattery.

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>>2780233
>Why are Africans allowed to appropriate Egyptian history for themselves without any refutation or denial from Western academia?
>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ancient_Egyptian_race_controversy
>155 mostly academic refrences
>hurr durr jew and black control academica and deny me of my birth right

>>2781699

The video has them and they are talking about Muhammad Morsi and then it says something different in the subtitles.

>>2780233
The funny thing is that it looks like ancient egyptians had less subsaharan admixture than today's egyptians.

>>2781702
>The Ancient Greeks, for example, considered themselves the premier race based on culture, not color.
Race is not color. Nobody believes this, nobody think african albions are white, nobody believes dark skinned indians are the same as africans.
Also, LMAO at calling the Greeks civic nationalists.

>>2780233
Threads with this pic need to be banned fucks sake /his/ you still fall for gorilla posting on /sci/ esque threads.

>>2781723
>wikipedia

oh neat

>155 turds
>historical truth is a matter of consensus just like man-made climate change

ty for mentioning that.

Anyway lets see the article

>At the UNESCO "Symposium on the Peopling of Ancient Egypt and the Deciphering of the Meroitic Script" in Cairo in 1974, the Black Hypothesis met with "profound" disagreement

profound disagreement in the 70s

Lets see what they are saying currently

>Since the second half of the 20th century, most anthropologists have rejected the notion of race as having any validity in the study of human biology

oh right, race is just a social construct like sex and everything is relative, so blacks can identify as egyptian why not...
Thank you liberals.

>>2781702
>The Ancient Greeks, for example, considered themselves the premier race based on culture, not color.
homoaimon
homoglosson
homotropon

>>2781702
my dear anon, the Greeks adored Egypt and tried to ascend to their level.

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>>2781768
>historical truth is a matter of consensus
This is how science works bro. Inter-subjectivity. History is no different from others sciences in this regard. Sorry if I triggered your autism but scientific conduct means the exchange of arguments until a consensus is reached (for a time).
>oh right, race is just a social construct like sex and everything is relative, so blacks can identify as egyptian why not...
I really don't know what you expect. Do you want archeologists to pass a bill that limits the freedom of speech?

If you wanna do some heavy reading check and take it from there: http://www.englisch.gnomon-online.de/rech.FAU?sid=4B55E4C53&dm=1&auft=0 (don't know if Egyptology has it's own databases so I took the one from classics). Be disappointed though: Historians don't care really whether Egypt was black. Apparently some blacks in America do and by this they trigger /pol/.

>>2781801
>>2781772
How is this addressing anything I stated about academia refuting the black Egypt stuff? I seriously have to doubt your reading comprehension.

>>2781802
>This is how science works bro

no that's how liberals and "social scientists" want science to work. real science works on reproducible empirical evidence, it only takes 1 scientist to disprove a theory, no matter what the consensus says to him.

>>2781815
I was refuting the part I quoted, not the whole thing. We know egyptians weren't black because they had little to none subsaharan admixture.

>>2781829
>real science works on reproducible empirical evidence
Yeah, try to reproduce history. Or try to experiment with astro-physics.
>it only takes 1 scientist to disprove a theory,
>muh Popper
Talking about empirical evidence. Your statement is empirically wrong. Read some Kuhn or Lakatos for starters. There are countless examples of theories "surviving" falsificating evidence (e.g -aether theory) for some time. Like it or not there is a social component to history.

>>2781840
>to history.
*to science.

>>2781829
>implying that notion of science isn't an ideal type at best
>implying that 1 scientists will get the founding for his experiment
>implying he can prove causality as such
>implying he know what to measure without having a notion of how the world is like that is not based on a collection of subjective thoughts on how the world is like
>implying textbooks knowledge is the objective truth
>implying the experiment reproducibility of observations isn't the aim in social science as-well
>implying you took more than a 101 course on the history of science
>laughingnerds.tiff

>>2781840
>read some circle-jerking arm-chair philosophers who nitpick minor details in science because they were too stupid to actually do science themselves


What I say still stands.
WHen debating an issue you gotta appeal to evidence, not consensus. That's just lazy argumentation by any standard.

>Yeah, try to reproduce history

history has its own method, not the same as science obviously, but appeal to consensus is not how historical truth is established either.

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>>2781723
>posts link refuting his own position

that article says the "we wuz kangz" black hypothesis was found to be profoundly incorrect, when they were studying it in the 70s.

>>2780268
>Because Egypt is in Africa.
So is the maghreb, does it mean black people are allowed whatever they want to do with the berber world history?

>>2781723
>>2781723

Egyptians have always been neolithic farmer in admixture, as in, mediterranean, from the very fucking start, stop being a fucking dumbass.

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>>2780343
>Probably for the same reasons that most other academics don't waste time on other fringe conspiracy theorists.
If it's taught in high school it's not a fringe conspiracy theory

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>>2781702
>Moreover, race as we know it is a modern concept. Our pattern of white supremacy, which was birthed out of economic concern, only began after African slaves had been brought to the Americas. For the ancients, nationality as we understand it was much more important than whatever shade of skin might have. The Ancient Greeks, for example, considered themselves the premier race based on culture, not color. But these racist ideals were too blinding to early archaeologists, who practically fabricated reason after reason the Ancient Egyptians could only be white. Even more desperately, the Nubians were not escape this pattern of whitewashing.

This is a fallacy pushed by people with no education in genetics or evolution. This position is only fashionable in the West. It's has no basis in reality, it's purely a political stance. This not the belief of people who study genetics and human evolutionary history as it contradicts all the data, and the major theories such as the "Out of Africa theory" and the many genetic clusters

http://therightstuff.biz/2015/05/18/the-rational-view-on-race/
Pictures used:'
Genetic Distance (fst)
>"There are many other species which have recognized subspecies that are less genetically distinct than human races are. Such species include, for example, the Canadian lynx, the African Buffalo, The Plain Zebra, and the Red Winged Black Bird. Dog breeds are more genetically distinct than most subspecies are and there is no plausible justification for using them as the standard by which to judge other species. The choice of dogs is obviously motivated entirely by the fact that dog breeds are more genetically distinct than human races. There is no other reason that RationalWiki decided to use them as their example. But if we use the same standards as we do for other species the level of genetic differentiation between human race is more than enough to justify calling them subspecies."
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19695787

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>>2781911
The Maghreb is full of black Arab types. The line between black and Arab in that part of the world is not a sharp distinction. "Subsaharan" as a dividing race wall is a new and race based notion, not in the least bit scientific.

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>>2782032
holy fucken stupid brits

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>>2780554
probably because Rome had a massive empire that spanned the whole of Europe and encompassing most ethnic and cultural groups at that time. Even the Greeks had colonies across Europe and had a short but massive empire through Alexandre the great

>>2780268
Wrong, in antiquity, Egypt was considered a part of Asia for cultural reasons.

>>2782032
We are all descendant from Africans, so wouldn't this be true?

>>2780233
Alexandria was inhabited by blacks you fucking cracker

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Let's assume that there are in fact different human races - black, white, etc. - determined by biology, and these races exhibit different levels of average aggression and average IQ.

Doesn't that necessarily imply a hierarchy of races?

>>2782541
Alexandria, Virginia maybe

>>2782515
>probably because Rome had a massive empire that spanned the whole of Europe
???
They owned NONE of Northern Europe besides Britain, and they always were like the Greeks in spirit, rather than the barbarian germans

>>2780233
Didn't watch the video, but your picture clearly shows Meroe pyramids, i.e. the ones that were built by Kushites in Kush. They were black.

>>2782542
No? There's no hierarchy of animals, for example.

>>2782580
Several german tribes were intergrated, yes.

>>2782591
>There's no hierarchy of animals, for example.
What is the food chain? What is the leader of the pride? What is biology 101?

>>2782601
Good thing you decided to actually ask about things you're not familiar with, instead of making stupid assumptions.

>What is the food chain?
First of all, it is not a hierarchy. Secondly, it doesn't range animals according to any qualities, it's just who eats whom. Finally, it is in no way similar to the supposed "hierarchy" that anon was talking about.

>What is the leader of the pride?
I am going to assume you're talking about lions. The leader of a lion pride is the highest ranking male. Usually it is the oldest and the strongest of the males in the pride, but not necessarily. Of course, lions, like many other animals, including people even, have a hierarchy in their groups, based on their individual differences, psychology (and often culture in human groups), birth and so on. These are not hierarchies of species, or, again, hierarchies based on certain qualities.

>>2781875
That is his position, you guys need to improve your reading skills. OP states that there is no refutation or denial from Western academia, he points that there is lots of denial and refutation from Western Academia.

>>2782597
Germanic tribes being "integrated" is not the same as your original claim as Romans "owning" the *whole of Europe*. Also do you know which ethnic groups brought down the Western Roman Empire and crippled it before its fall?

Germanics.

>>2780233
They don't. African Americans do.

>>2782580
>>2782667
>They owned NONE of Northern Europe
many of the tribes that became part of the rome's auxiliaries where from places like Sweden.Most of these Germanic tribes where pushed into the roman empire by the huns.These tribes where used as paid mercenaries and auxiliaries at first

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>>2782897
Point out on this map the provinces that are in northern europe. Part of Belgica and Britannia are the only ones.

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>>2782932
oh look it crosses over modern Germany guess their where Germanics in the empire

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>>2780304
nothing compares to the pajeet narrative tho

>>2782932
why are sperging out over northern Europe? it does change the fact that it spanned across Europe.and has a consequence most Europeans will have some history being a part of or contact with Rome. Northern Europe not being a part of the empire doesn't change that

>>2782946
>modern germany
>reflecting where ancient Germanic tribes lived
Are you retarded?

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>>2782946
>thinks modern germany's borders are based on where germans lived 2000+ years ago

>>2782897
>many of the tribes that became part of rome's auxiliaries
So what?
>>2782946
Part of lower Germany ! = most of Northern Europe.

>>2783001
>>2783006
During the period of the Roman empire, more tribes settled in areas of the empire near the Rhine, in territories controlled by the Roman Empire. Eventually these areas came to be known as Lesser Germania, while Greater Germania (Magna Germania; it is also referred to by names referring to its being outside Roman control: Germania libera, "free Germania") formed the larger territory east of the Rhine.
>>2783008
>lower Germany ! = most of Northern Europe.
nobody said this

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>>2782565

Earliest dyasties of the Old Kingdom could have very well had nubian rulers. All we know for certain is the 100 yr Kushite rule.

I blame the jews. I'm sure they are the ones teaching this shit

is /his/ really this retarded on the early middle ages?
Rome fell in the west and the Merovingian Franks which are a Germanic tribes took over in what's now France
they were very much successors of Rome in the west
the Merovingians conquered almost all of modern day Germany and by the time the Carolingian dynasty took over this was a huge empire
the Frankish realm later split into what would become Germany, France and the low countries and all of those are successors of the Franks which are successors of the Romans in the west hence most of western Europe, including Germany can very much be said to come from Rome

>>2783061
>nobody said this
>>2782515
Uh huh.

>>2783178
>spanned the whole of Europe
does it not span the whole length of Europe? why the sperg out over nothern europe? doesn't change the point the post was trying to make

>>2783204
He said "all of Europe", you dong.

>>2783300
i think he meant length

>>2781698
WE

>>2783309
Doubtful.

>>2783905
yes i did

>>2780619
FYROM isn't in the historical region of macedon

Modern mudslime arab egyptians aren't ancient egyptians either

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>>2783991

>>2783991
Then who the fuck was?

>>2784659
The Copts.

>>2783935
But Italy is located in the historically region of Italy from Roman times. Also the Italian people are the living posterity of ancient Romans.

>>2781058
What's a Nubian?

>>2784677
Something pertaining to Anubis

>>2784707
Anubis is the Greek way to say Anpu.

>>2780365
>>2781106
Macedon is a huge joke. At the same time they'll argue that they're heirs to Alexander and have a president called "Gjorge Ivanov"

Really fucking Greek name isn't it?

>>2783914
Then you are retarded. You don't say "all of Europe" and then turn around when called out on it and go "I just mean the parts they covered."

>>2780233
Mostly due to a period where Nubians took over the place.

>>2783150
Black nationalists/BLM/Nation of Islam etc do often blame Jews for "teaching that Egyptians were white". It's ironic cuz /pol/ claims it's a jewish conspiracy that is behind the whole "egyptians weren't white" thing.

mostly because ethnics are bullshit

Nubians are Egyptians
Germanics are Romans
Italians are Hebrews
Mongols are Chinese
Turks are Anatolians
and Russians are Vikings

this is what I learned in history

>>2782932
you're such a retarded sperg its hilarious

>>2785436
/pol/ claims everything they don't like is a jewish conspiracy

>>2785444
I took an ancient world class in a CT state university in 2011 and they said ancient Egyptians like most ancient peoples were their own unique ethnic groups and don't really fall into modern classifications of race.

WE

>>2780234
What does Europeans have to do with Egypt?

>>2782032
The original text would be helpful rather than a screencap from an outrage merchant tabloid. The textbook could well be referring to the discovery of Africans in Roman Britain, with the story and headline particularly being fluffed beyond recognition by a sub-editor.

>>2784868
your completely ignoring the context of the post. Most of Europe was under the heel of Rome.Your just sperging out going "nu uh not northern Europe " how does that change the point i was trying to make?

>>2782580
The North Germanic tribe leaders went to rome to work as mercenaries and brought back concepts like kingdoms, new gods, roman laws and written language. They even had close alliances with the kings of the north.

>>2785451
>>2782962

not an answer
also, likely a samefag

>>2786631
That still doesn't mean Hans from Germany or Sven from Sweden should LARP as an ancestor of Rome

>>2781703
Yep.

>>2786565
All of Europe ! = most of Europe, retard.

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-1GULSVk5dc
>mfw these comments

It's fucking surreal reading this shit

>>2787681
>spanned the whole of Europe
span - the full extent of something from END TO END, sperg

>>2787903
jesus christ those comments... have they ever looked at a contemporary Egyptian?

>>2780268
China is in Euroasia. Does that mean that I as a swede should go unchallenged if I started wewuzing about the Qin dynasty?

>>2780268
The difference there is that alot of european culture is derived from the roman culture and its western successor catholicsm.
Modern Western culture is at its core a mixture of roman and germanic culture.

>>2788356
this

>>2780233
same reason you let the autists claim hitler as a person of power with autism

>>2782580
>none of northern europe
>france isnt a thing

>>2780309
Your argument is flawed as it ignores the centuries of foreign occupation and its cultural shift. The roman empire ended in 1453 and italy was for a century dominated by german overlords. The living continuation of the roman (and hellenic) world is the orthodox and catholic churches whose influence have stretches over the whole of europe.

>>2781106
Because everyone but themselves are in on the joke.

>>2788389
>france
>northern europe
>american education

>>2788397
>The roman empire ended in 1453
I guess where many Greeks fleeing Turkish persecution went? The Italian peninsula. That's part of what kick started the renaissance.
>italy was for a century dominated by german overlords.
Not all of Italy. And even if it was, by that logic Germany is Roman because parts of it were dominated by the Roman Empire.
>he living continuation of the roman (and hellenic) world is the orthodox and catholic churches whose influence have stretches over the whole of europe.
Other continuations exist. Someone made a good post demonstrating how the structure of the Roman Empire was almost identical to the structure of the Mafia.

Of course culture shifts. That happened within the Roman Empire itself. It does make Italians any less the living posterity of Romans.

>>2788424
*doesn't make.

>>2788423
Normandy originally from the word for "northman" in several Scandinavian languages really makes you think

>>2784659
Aryans. Germanics and Celts ruled over Egypt, then they left to Europe and became white as they are now because of the climate.

>>2788356
The distance between Sweden and China is massive physically and culturally

Ancient Egyptians were African by definition, as they lived in Africa, just as modern North Africans are African and Boers are African. However, ancient Egyptians were not black, which is what you are referring to.

>>2788356
A lot of of African culture is derived from nilo-Saharan and semetic culture.

>>2788435
normans were vikings who conquered part of france and created normandy
no shit they were called north men, they came from the north. Normandy proper isn't northern european

we wuz kings famm

>>2788104
No, retard. The common use of the word is to indicate "complete" control of an entire area. You tried to spin it that Roman's conquered all of Europe, they did not come close.

>>2787903
>There is a "conspiracy" (yes I said it....) to erase Black Africans contribution to civilization as we know it. Quite frankly without Black Africans(..and that includes the Egyptians) here would BE no civilization as we know it. The Global white racist establishment would rather the world believed that the oldest, most advance civilization that we know to date was established and ran by whites. They know it's a lie. They want you to NOT believe your eyes. Don't fall for it.
This one is my favorite

>>2785444
Seeing as being roman was cultural and not ethnical a german could very well be one.

>>2788519
East african ones yes. However none of them to my knowledge are as tightly connected as europe to rome

>>2788566
>normans were vikings who conquered part of france and created normandy
lol no they were given Normandy to stop other Vikings from annoying the King.

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>>2787146
lol
>>2788812
>they did not come close.
they ruled Europe from end to end that is the definition of span. nobody said they ruled every corner and had complete 100% control of Europe.
But as plenty people have said in this thread many tribes they didn't control migrated into the empire and where employed as mercenaries and auxiliaries this had a lasting effect on Europeans culture as a whole ,the catholic church is a prime example of this as well as the Latin alphabet.

>>2782947
>Pakistan is racially different than india
t.filthy anglo

>>2781106
>Not slavs
>Still use Russian Cyrillic alphabet
Kek

>>2788488
The distance between (Ancient) Egypt and West Africa is massive physically and culturally.

>>2789175
The nubians are and the Yoruba culture.

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>>2789273
>they ruled Europe from end to end
how does it feel to be stupid?
the map doesn't even show Scandinavia.
this is the power of 'murican education.

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>>2789430
>sperging out because an empire that ruled from the Atlantic to the Caspian sea was described as ruling end to end
why dont sperg out over this historic image instead

>>2788452
WE

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Why is this thread still up?

>>2784677
>>2781063

Nubians were Egypts southern neighbor and had a lot in common with Egyptian civilization. Over the years, Nubians have ruled Egypt and Egyptians have ruled Nubia. The cultural boundary between them and the Egyptians is very fuzzy.

Basically, two civilizations that grew up together, one north and one south.

>>2783061

Earlier, southern Germany was Celtic. The Boi kingdom.

>>2789381
Nobody's talking about west Africa.

That's about the distance from Spain to turkey, an includes all the continuity in between.

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>>2780268
>that's like saying what are Europeans allowed to appropriate Greco-Roman culture
Not really, though I kind of understand where you're coming from.
All of Europe's major nations were under Roman rule, either wholly or in part. Britain, France, Germany, Spain, Portugal, the Netherlands, etc. The remains of amphitheatres, temples, baths, roads, forts and walls can be found everywhere from the far-north of Scotland to Syria and Egypt. I was born in York, a city founded as a Roman 'colonia'. It's natural that people will be interested. The Italians, Spanish, French, Portuguese and Romanians speak linguistic descendants of the Roman tongue, Latin. They have left a genetic legacy too.
Also, as Rome began as a city-state in central Italy, why should it be any more of an 'appropriation' for somebody from, say, Lombardy to take an interest than a person from across the border in France or Switzerland? Because Lombardy and Lazio are part of the same Republic today?

As for the Greeks, they founded colonies as far afield as Spain and the Ukraine. After conquest by the Romans, their philosophies and gods spread across the Empire. Doctors in the Roman armies were invariably Greek too, as evidenced by both written records and finds from archaeological sites across Europe.

PS. Not far from York, archaeologists found dozens of Roman-era sarcophagi adorned with dedications to Egyptian gods, like Serapis. Isotope analysis showed many of the skeletons within belonged to people born and raised in North Africa. Very interesting!

>>2787153
if hes LARPing as a roman from Rome then yeah its a bit silly.
but there's no reason he cant LARP as a citizen or auxiliary from the roman provinces of Germania Inferior or Germania Superior

>>2785545
Not that anon,
But Europe was big at colonizing Africa, then stealing many artifacts, the only theft really of note though is the Egyptian tombs being raided by the British.

>>2789589
>why dont sperg out over this historic image instead
because they literally ruled africa from the cape to cairo. End to end means longest end to end.
Snowniggers trying to claim they wuz romans triggers me

>>2789411
I have a hard time thinking that Sudan still holds on to the culture of ancient Egypt to the same degree the west holds to roman.

>>2789708
>Nobody's talking about west africa.
What is wewuzism

>>2791660
As a snownigger I can assure you that we are not saying that we wuz romans, what we are saying is that we get alot of our culture from the roman one. That's what you get for being a cultural hegemon.

>>2791660
It is odd. In my opinion, Scandinavia has just about the least interesting history and culture in all of Eurasia.
Even the coolest of the Vikings went off and colonised Britain, Ireland, France and the Americas, whilst your modern Nordic is a descendant of the guys who stayed behind to look after their kones sonn

>>2780233

because this retarded topic is not discussed in any academic circle that takes itself even remotely seriously ?
At least... I hope. P....please dont prove me wrong.

>>2791660
oh no they cant have ruled end to end you see if i add an arbitrary line between Senegal and Somalia you can see they didn't control it....lol
but seriously ive never heard of Scandinavians claiming they where Romans. The popular image over there is Vikings.Even then its very dry and stale you go to a place like York and its filled with popular images of vikings like the York dungeons but go to Oslo viking museum and its so dry and dull.If it was the uk you would have a fuck off huge viking bastard statue outside the museum but not Oslo

>>2792505
Is that indicative of Nordics' lack of interest in their own history? Even in the UK you have some pretty cool Viking shit, like Up Helly Aa and the Jorvik Festival

>>2791660
>Snowniggers trying to claim they wuz romans triggers me
When has this ever happen?

>>2792297
>Scandinavian history is only viking history
Well memed my friend.

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>>2792619
I was semi-joking, but up until the 11th century it pretty much is

>>2792522
i got the impression they wanted to distance themselves from violence and conflict.Their maritime museum is just filled with pictures of pretty boats but the Greenwich maritime museum in London is filled with historic battle paintings, lord nelson's coat he wore during battle, etc. In The Fram musem they only have a small section on the UK failing to get to the south pole first. If it had been the UK it would of been like "fuck yes we got there first fuck you suck it Norway!"

>>2789640
I thought Nubians ruled Egypt for a century before they were kicked out

In this case, westerners have no skin in the game....

>>2782060
>therightstuff.biz
TRULY YOU ARE ONE OF HUMAN EVOLUTION'S MOST LEARNED SUBJECTS!

I studied biological anthropology in university and I can tell you that there is no evidence for race being a biological category. It is, as that ACTUAL academic stated, a social construct based on socioeconomic necessities of early modern Europe

>>2792522
It's called the jantelag.
Also we got loads of dope museums 'n shit in scandinavia. They are just not the sort of circus people of an american leaning might prefer.

>>2792629
Eh no, seeing as the viking age was around late eight century to the 11th.

>>2792542
>Romans were all blond haired blue eyed ''Aryans''
You've never seen stormfags claim this?

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>>2792795
well the blond haired blue eyed hero does come from The Greco-Roman culture. Thats not because it was a common trait in the Mediterranean it was precisely because it was uncommon and made the heroes of old stand out.To the ancients light hair in the Mediterranean sun would have been stunning.

Because they fear blacks. It would just be too 'waycis' (racist) to confront those niggaboos.

>>2785545
Because they propagate a backwards myth that niggers created civilizations that Europeans copied while in reality Egyptians were West Eurasians like Europeans

>>2792851
The problem is this:
>some gods and historical figures had blond hair and light eyes in a population which reportedly has a minority of around 10-15% of fair featured people.
>therefore WE WUZ ROMANZ N SHEEIT
Just like some berbers have literal red hair, some Greeks and Italians have literal blond hair. That, and since foreigners around them had it was seen as exotic . Nothing about it indicates Nordics were Roman.

>>2792881
nobody's actually claimed this in this thread through.You seem to have this major chip on your shoulder regarding this fictional Nordic stormfag boogie man.When you actually go to Scandinavia the major dominate historic people that dominate their pop culture is the vikings

>>2789273
They didn't rule Europe from "end to end".

>>2792949
Scandinavians, sure. But /pol/fags say romans and egyptians were nords. It is wewuzery

>>2780233
>Why are Africans allowed to appropriate Egyptian history for themselves without any refutation or denial from Western academia?

Because they are not academics and they are not interacting with academia. They only reach people through facebook shares and /pol/ overflow.

>>2793119
we've been over this >>2789589 already
>>2793157
>le /pol/ boogieman

>>2793481
>le /pol/ boogieman
As recently as today there was a large thread on /pol/ were a frightening amount of people seemingly seriously argued for a white, aryan looking precursor race uplifting every civilisation.
It was great fun. The jews were blamed for covering it up and there were Ay Lmaos in every corner.

>>2793511
>taking anything pol says seriously
their hatred and opposition to sjws is commendable but to take anything they say politically or historically seriously is ridiculous.Their Brexit threads are filled with brits looking forward to things being worse.They dont even think brexit will make the uk better off they actively want it to be worse off so long as they leave the EU

>>2782032
>Americans linking daily mail articles as evidence again
fuck me this is so annoying.

I hear Americans saying stupid shit all the time, like England being a muslim country, and every fucking time they link daily mail articles as evidence because they're too stupid to read into reporting.

>>2780233
No one in academia takes the theory seriously.

I'm pretty sure there's been no more than a single book printed on it that was complete bollocks.

Even people who push it are confused about africa=/=being black

>>2780233
lol - you do realize this has been re-subtitled as a joke.

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Who was right?

>>2780233
What's the original translation to this. I've seen 3 different ones, one where he shits all over Islam and the Koran.