>be me >think WW1 is a morally neutral war, with no clear

>>2759765
I don't think anyone believes Versailles was harsh. The French wanted to go much further but David Lloyd George intervened and softened it down.

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Imagine if it was Brest levels harsh. Germs are hypocrites to the max.

They say the winners write history, but they forget about how much damage a butthurt loser can do if nobody else cares enough to stop them from raping the historical record.

This is incidentally the same disease plaguing historiography of the American civil war

>>2759765
The Lusitania really was carrying ammunition. The Brits lied because it was convenient for them and used the passengers as human shields.
http://www.centenarynews.com/article?id=1616

>>2759765
>Why do people think that Versailles was harsh?
Because it was counterproductive to economically destroy the German people, who had stood up against the idiocy of the Kaisserreich and insisted on peace. They did so in spite of their utterly discredited leadership class. The Germans who ended the war and came to the peace table should have been welcomed as heroes by the Allies, with full recognition of German gallantry for the past 4 years.

>>2759785
Especially since the Eternal Deutsch themselves imposed ludicrously steep war reparations on the French after the Franco Prussian war.
French should have kept the Ruhr and broken Germany up into pieces.

>>2759809
Tee bee aytch, the allies should have insisted on either status quo antebellum or occupation.

I blame Republicans for undermining Wilson

>>2759785
To be fair, neither side had legitimate claims to the land.

>>2759794
No one ever disputed that the Lusitania was carrying ammunition. The main German charge was that she was carrying illegal munitions, which at the least would've amounted to explosive ammunition and at most could've been high explosives. But there's no hard evidence to date the Lusitania was carrying either, only hearsay.

>>2759785

What is the reasoning for the V-shape? Why not a straight line?

Germany should've been dissolved between the entente

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>>2759794
>Sink a ship carrying 1000s of innocent civilians because weapons were on board.
>Instead of expressing feelings of sorrow or embarrassment like a human being would, Krauts strike a commemorative medal celebrating the occasion.

>>2759765
Don't forget about chemical warfare
Before there was just tear gas canisters, but then the eternal kraut got the idea to release giant clouds of poison into the air

>>2759809
>Because it was counterproductive to economically destroy the German people
Good thing Versailles never did that then

During the war, German poet Ernst Lissauer composed a lengthy poem called "The Hymn to Hate", in which, without an ounce of irony, he goes on about the German race's eternal undying hatred of the English. Just an exerpt:
>We have but one and only hate,
>We love as one, we hate as one,
>We have one foe and one alone.
>He is known to you all, he is known to you all,
>He crouches behind the dark gray flood,
>Full of envy, of rage, of craft, of gall,
>Cut off by waves that are thicker than blood... ENGLAND
Wilhelm loved it, naturally, and had it widely distributed throughout the empire.

>>2759765
Lusitania was carrying arms. The unrestricted sub warfare was to combat arms going from Britain and America to the mainland.

>>2759765
Yes, the German army suffered from guerrilla attacks by civilians and disruption to their supply, as well as Britain using civilian liners as human shields to move war supplies. Don't tell me you think anything is beyond Britain, just because they failed to pioneer U-boat warfare.

At least Germany took its licks and kept its fighting spirit up until the end, despite "peace at any cost" Russia and "Satan incarnate but plays the victim" Britain. France was the only great power of the Entente that wasn't a nasty, perfidious little demon (Britain) and actually held its own without complaint, like the Germans.

>>2759765
Wasn't harsh enough

>>2760803
Total lack of self-awareness as always Hans

>>2760820
No, Germany was no angel but playing them as THE villain of the war is ridiculous and American-tier clueless.

Britain should have gotten its ass wholesale whipped for being an evil little shit since the treachery of the long knives-to-present.

Playing Germany as a warmonger in what was a powderkeg of secret alliances and bad blood is just silly. Their only crime that a member of the entente couldn't also be blamed for is making early use of gas and U-boat warfare.

>>2760850

just so you know your awareness of foreign policy in that time is utterly mistaken