>he's a Mercantilist just because unregulated free-trade

>>2754310
Economics is not the be-all end-all of political existence

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>>2754320
*teleports behind you*
Uhhh, yeah it is sweetie. Everything else is shaped by the means of production.

>>2754310
Would your ideal system allow a nation to protect local industry until other employment is available for their workforce?

Mercantilism at this point is only supported as a dog-whistle

Why do you think they complain about "globalists?" What they mean by globalist is "not a white supremacist"

Free trade is better but it means benefiting non-whites

Brexit is an example of this, literally destroying the economic capabilities and stability of a powerful country out of fear they might have to live near brown people

I guess it's better to live in an impoverished hovel full of white people rather than a high standard of living with minorities

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The world doesn't begin or end at whether or not you have save $5000 on a slightly better imported car. It's much bigger than that. You're living in a society!

WE'RE LIVING IN A SOCIETY!

>>2754333
Prosperity and ease has doomed the white race.

The future is brown.

>>2754333
>Brexit is an example of this, literally destroying the economic capabilities and stability of a powerful country out of fear they might have to live near brown people
They already live near brown people. That ship sailed decades ago.
>I guess it's better to live in an impoverished hovel full of white people rather than a high standard of living with minorities
"impoverished hovel" is not an accurate picture of pre-browning Europe and America.

Honestly the question you posted would have been better off asked by Blacks in South Africa. only with the races reversed.

>>2754310
&humanities strikes again
why can't you fags just fuck off to /pol/?

Is it possible to argue this one just on its merits as an economic system and not get into race memeing? Maybe get some good articles posted as citations for arguments?

>>2754310
This is the future:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I3zeYV4oN2A

>>2754369
>Is it possible to argue this one just on its merits as an economic system and not get into how it affects human communities?

>>2754381
That's an excellent counterpoint anon, honestly. Can OP explain the cost/benefit ratio of his preferred economic system? Maybe he can account for the community?

>>2754328
My point is that there are far more considerations that are involved in political life than merely the economic side of it. Yes, strictly speaking it can be cheaper to purchase cars elsewhere. It can also lead to negative externalities such as depressed wages. Reality is nowhere near as simple as robotically calculating the maximum return on purchase with no care for the present or the future.

It is well established and uncontroversial that free trade is beneficial to all parties, but most people are extremely ignorant of economics, so politicians can't resist the opportunity to promote destructive populist policies.

>>2754512
This has to be bait.

The problem with protectionism is you are supposed to go into it with a solid plan and not just as some knee-jerk 'protecting muh jobs!' maymay.

What you get when you protect and subsidize workers just to keep them theire jobs, you have essentially created self-interested guilds that control sections of the economy that guide further economic policy of the country. Mercantilism is not about protecting domestic workers, its about making sure money flows into the country, and at the moment Free trade is better at doing that.

What people really are wanting when they are arguing for mercantilism, it seems to me, is government running things like a command economy, as some sort of vaguely socialist-ish wealth redistribution plan, but they will never admit to that.

>>2754517

Well, free trade is detrimental to low-skilled labor because it means their jobs can be easily outsourced......but honestly who gives a fuck? If somebody is too lazy to expand their skill set to remain relevant, why should society slow down to accommodate them?

>>2754310
>If China can make better and cheaper missile defense systems than the US, it just makes more sense to buy from them; letting US engineers find new jobs.
and how the fuck are you supposed to go to war with China then genius?

>>2754705
What impetus do people have to support a society that does not benefit them?

>>2754712
They wouldn't go to war with China, because the US needs missile systems and china needs US money

Circle of supply and demand

>>2754804
So in other words we're at China's mercy.
Fuck you.

>>2755034
China is going to be the next super power. Accept reality. I'm already starting to learn Mandarin. English will become obsolete.

>>2755044
>sell your country out to a foreign power
>act like their eclipsing your country is a fait accomplit that was just sort of ordained to happen by magic and your selling your country out is unrelated

I genuinely wish people like you ill.

>>2755058
He's just being an ebin funposter, the US will never be retarded enough to outsource vital defense industry jobs to a state that is a direct competitor.

>>2755058
It's out of our control. We're just peasants. We can't do anything about it.

>>2754705
>but honestly who gives a fuck
most people
because most people are "lazy" and can't specialize.

>>2754310
>destroyed the global economy
You mean people in free market societies had to scale back their lifestyles from ludicrously wealthy back to just being ridiculously wealthy for a few years?

>>2754705
because society is made up of these "lazy people".

not that it'll matter, most jobs, including white collar positions will be automated in the next few decades.

>>2754712
Fell for the bait

>>2754333
>Brexit is an example of this, literally destroying the economic capabilities and stability of a powerful country out of fear they might have to live near brown people
You get all your political insight from The Guardian don't you?

>>2754705
>What impetus do people have to support a society that does not benefit them?

Because specializing is not that easy depending on your circumstances. If education is free it's easy to do. If it costs your first born child then that puts a wrench into your plans.

>>2755516
Well more brown folk are gonna come in. Britain has to negotiate new deals and shit without the EU back it up.

>>2754360
>Honestly the question you posted would have been better off asked by Blacks in South Africa. only with the races reversed.

which question exactly?

>>2754310
A couple things politics can sometimes outweighs economics. The United States won't buy middle from China cause it wishes to control it's military resources. There would too much leverage if it didn't. Same idea with farm subsidies. Secondly I do believe free trade has a positive overall economic effect in the long run, but that doesn't mean that certain groups and places will lose out in the process. We shouldn't stop expanding trade for because of them, but these groups can't just be ignored. It does seem that one of these groups that lose out are poor workers in developed countries who have a hard time competing with developing world workers. Partially, because the standard of living in these countries are so high and the workers need s certain price otherwise they wouldn't work. Also, developed governments usually restrict how poorly you treat your workers.

The market economy is not everything. It must find its place in a higher order of things which is not ruled by supply and demand, free prices and competition. It must be firmly contained in an all-embracing order of society in which the imperfections and harshness of economic freedom are corrected by law and in which man is not denied conditions of life appropriate to his nature.

>>2754310
Ok, but why exactly shouldn't we pour our efforts into automation and technology to turn around and make better/cheaper cars/missile defense systems over here rather than shoveling it into meme industries like finance and marketing or leaving it in the pockets of rich fucks to rot?

>>2754804
Weird, British people were saying the same shit in 1914