Tfw the 5th best Soviet commander in WW2 is better than the best (Non-Soviet) allied commanders.
George S. Patton is better then all russian mongrel generals in history. Prove me wrong faggots
Pro tip: You can't
>>2746729
*blocks your path*
*organizes the largest expeditionary effort in history over 5,500+ km of ocean*
*organizes the second largest expeditionary effort in history at the same time*
*annihilates several German army groups and inflicts millions of casualties in only ten months with a fraction of the enemy's casualties*
>>2746777
Not counting people in Chief of staff/ more administrative roles but theres some major criticism for Marshall, recommend Fredenhall essentially because he liked the cut of his jib, who then got fucked up in kasserine.
>>2746767
Patton was pretty good but rokasov and vasilevsky had more talent in their left pinkies then George "what is combat fatigue" Patton.
>>2746767
Patton was meme general like Rommel
>>2746767
Patton was a fucking meme general who couldn't drive straight.
Will the real general Slim shady please defeat the Japanese?
>>2746767
Patton should've been hit by a truck far earlier desu
>>2747216
*teleports to far east* heh, nothing personal kid *destroys Kwantung Army*
Tukachevsky was a good boy
>5th Best
Let me guess the other 4: Zhukov, Vasilevsky, Roko, and Ivan Konev?
>not having two gigantic oceans between you and any possible threat
lel faggots.
>>2747853
Swap out chuikov for Konev but yeah.
>Implying.
>>2746729
*blocks your path*
>>2749358
Look Americans, if you want to make an effort at least go for Omar or something, you aren't even trying
>>2749386
Name one thing Devers did wrong. One thing at all.
>>2749393
Didn't like tank destroyers, wasn't a real general, he spent most his time doing administration and shiieet.
>>2749413
>Didn't like tank destroyers,
Like quite a few others, since their doctrinal purpose happened what? Twice in actual WW2 combat? TD's were a fucking waste, which is why the concept was pretty much discontinued after WW2.
>wasn't a real general,
And Anvil/Dragoon was just a mass hallucination?
>he spent most his time doing administration and shiieet.
EVERY modern general spends most of his time doing administration.
>>2747460
What's the point of having that many medals if you're not even gonna make them look aesthetic?
>>2749448
He honestly didn't do much wrong but he wasn't hugely significant either, nothing makes me think that he is better than Zhukov,Rokko,Vatu,vasilevsky or Chuikov.
he never showed strategic or tactical genius.
>>2749518
>He honestly didn't do much wrong but he wasn't hugely significant either,
That's a terrible judgment of skill. You may as well say that Zhukov was a better commander than Rokossovsky because he was in the thick of it far more often.
>he never showed strategic or tactical genius.
That is simply ignorance. But I'm sure the largest combat surrender of Wehrmacht personnel just happens on its own, or the breakout in a mountainous region that didn't go the Italy route was evidence of him not showing any skill; nor did his consistently calling things rightly on questions like the Schelt, further advances in Italy post Avalanche, and Rhine crossing before full securement of France just are the mark of a strategic incompetent.
>>2747976
>Budyonny on the same tier as Kulik
At the very least he wasn't a fucking coward, and it's not like he could do anything other than what he was ordered to do
>>2749558
He wasn't a rokkosovky, Guderian or Manstein. Heck tactically he wasn't even a Rommel