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Why didn't every country build a giant wall around

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Why didn't every country build a giant wall around it like the Chinese?
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>>2738645
Wells like that are only useful in very specific circumstances also they were way to poor
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>>2738645
>Shit's expensive
>Walls don't work against concentrated attacks
>Mountains/rivers/deserts/swamps work better
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>build wall
>enemy takes over wall
>now you can't attack enemy but they can attack you
only works if your enemies are nomads who don't have the manpower for static fortifications
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>Build wall
>Enemy take over the wall
>They start pouring buckets of water into your country
>eventually floods your entire country

Great idea OP
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>Build a wall against your neighbours
>No one cares because there's cold ass mountains and forests in the way and no one really even notices the wall
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They did.
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Some countries are actually delimited by natural barriers, like the Pyrenees or the Uruguay for instance.
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>>2738645

Donald stop posting on 4chan.
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Because they had neither the resources to build them nor any use for them. And arguably even the Great Wall never justified its enormous expense.
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>>2738645
The romans had extensive fortifications around some of their borders yet these were primarily meant to awe the neighbors into submission or, in case of an invasion, slow the enemy down so that reinforcements could have time to arrive.
They also served as taxing stations were incoming goods could be taxed and controlled.
Basically, border walls can serve a multitude of purposes, and having them be a automatic hindrance to the enemy is extemely costly as it requires constant upkeep and a sufficent garrison along the whole border to stop any invaders.

It's simply much more efficent for smaller states to rely on natural barriers such as mountains or rivers than building and arming extensive wall systems.
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>>2738795
Castles are not walls. Castles serve to dominate an area by providing a safe and fortified place to fall back to and perform operations from while walls are meant to waste the time of an enemy.
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>>2738645
Because we have better things to do
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>>2738645
Wall doesn't keep people out.

It just makes raids a hassle. Easy to get in. Harder to get out with loot
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>>2738769
Okay I laughed
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In a lot of cases, it would actually be cheaper to simply bribe tribes into not attacking or raiding, instead of building a wall and manning it.
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If I remember correctly, Denmark had a "wall" as well that was mostly some wood and some trenches. But it was most effective against the Germanic tribes. I believe it was around 'Gorm den gamle's time
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>>2738988
>Easy to get in

How? How does a wall make it easy to get in?
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>>2740990
You go around it, on your way in. Once you pillage and loot however, it's harder to get out because you're laden down with booty and captives.
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>>2738889
you have to go back
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thanks whoever first posted this here
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>>2740990
>How does a wall make it easy to get in?

It doesn't MAKE it easy to get in, it just fails to make it hard, since you can't defend a wall the size of a country.
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>>2738645
> giant wall around it like the Chinese

I thought they only built a long wall at the northern border?
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>>2741169
No, sorry sweetie.
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>>2738645
Because the people's republic of China is truly the most perfect form of government both for economic reasons and social reasons. If the rest of the world adopted superior communist methods we would have enough capital to establish a galactic wall and prevent the (((Mongolians))) from raping our lands
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Because walls are fucking stupid. If you'll notice, China's wall didn't even save it when it faced a real, serious threat: Mongols.

Walls don't work as well as people like to believe.
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>>2738645
Before the Empire unified the Chinese peoples, they all thought the same thing.

Everyone who bordered anyone had walls for them. These everntually were demolished when the states were unified by the Qin.
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>>2741550
>China's wall didn't even save it when it faced a real, serious threat: Mongols
It did actually. The 16th Century unified wall stopped the Mongols.

If you're referring to the first Mongol Invasion, well, the older wall(s) wasn't connected, in addition to the realm being at war with itself between the Jin & Song dynasties.
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>>2741237

Unless you got 1,3 billion people? Like China does now? lol
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