> successfully defended for 1000 years
Has there been any nation as impenetrable as this in history?
How have they managed to do it?
>>2736637
1066
1326
1688
>>2736637
>Romans
>Anglos
>Saxons
>Jutes
>Frisians
>Danes
>Vikings
>Dutch
Britain is literally the town bycicle of the North Sea, it's harder to name the Germanic peoples that DIDN'T conquer England at one time or another.
>>2736728
Forgot the Normans
>>2736637
>England
>English
>>2736745
>Canute
>English
>be England
>literally ruled by non-English monarchy
>we wuz
>backwater savages called "Britons"
>cucked by Celts
>cucked by Romans
>cucked by Germanic (Anglos, Saxons, Jutes)
>cucked by Norse
>cucked by Normans
>cucked by France
>cucked by Muslims
>>2736745
>Tudors
>welsh
None of the Tudor monarchs spoke a word of Welsh.
>>2736808
Don't forget the Dutch.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_III_of_England
>>2736855
thanks, famalam
the "English" must never forget their shameful history
>>2736637
>2017
>1066
WEW LAD
>>2736745
What standard are you using that makes the Tudors Welsh but the Plantagenets French? Henry Tudor was literally 1/4 French.
>>2736854
>Submit to foreign domination
>It's okay because you like how their cock tastes
>>2736854
So why didn't the English just proclaim Mary the queen? Why wait for William to invade and then proclaim him the king? This looks pretty much like an invasion.
>>2736637
It's not impregnable, the most astonishing thing about England is that it will assimilate you.
>>2736944
How it this astonishing? The French, the Bulgarians, the Russians, the Italians, the Chinese and many others have successfully assimilated their invaders.
>>2736854
>English parliament invites Dutch Stadtholder to rule their country
After sailed with an invasion fleet that took six months to assemble and marched an army into London that kept it occupied for a year.
>>2736745
>tudors
>welsh
well this is a pretty awful table
>>2736970 (You)
If anything, it's astonishing the Britons weren't able to assimilate the Anglo-Saxons while everywhere else the German invaders were assimilated by the natives in a couple of centuries.
>>2736637
Switzerland. They were impenetrable.
>>2736979
Have Celts been able to assimilate anyone anywhere?
>>2738302
Yes, a large number of the native peoples during their expansion, even in the middle of Anatolia.
>>2736798
>Be American
>Make statements that are so ignorant while on the internet it reveals your Americaness to the entire planet
No European royal family is of their subject's nationality you fucking mong. The nobility has existed as a seperate race practically for thousands of years. They breed with one another: French marry Spanish, Italian marry Swedish. They are all a mongrel mix.
If you're interested the current Queen of the UK is directly descended from Victoria, despite them not being in the same House. Just proves what I'm saying really.
How long before Britain has a Muslim monarchy?
>>2740411
>England
>German Crown
>English???
yeah keep living a lie,
>>2736637
Latterly by having nothing of material or strategic value to make the effort worthwhile.
i wished I have raped elizabeth back when she's just a teen
>>2736853
Henry Tudor lived in Brittany, he was able to speak with the Bretons as Welsh, Cornish, and Breton are very similar.
>>2736974
Henry Tudor is a cousin of Owain Glyndwr, Tudor should really be spelled Tudwr.
> See https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gwilym_ap_Tudur
The female the Tudors married into wasn't English either, absolutely nothing English about the Tudors.
Do any of you know why King John was so controversial? Because he had to consolidate power in England as he was defeated in his homeland, which was Normandy and Anjou.
The Plantagenets and Normans would rather hold court in Rouen or Angers as their capital, London was ceremonial.
>> successfully defended for 1000 years
>invaded by French in 1066
>invaded by French again in 1153
>invaded by French yet again in 1215
>invaded by French yet another time in 1326
>invaded by Dutch in 1688
Is there anything more sad and pathetic than britbong revisionism?
>>2740788
>britbong revisionism?
It's not British, it's English Nationalism borne out of the Glorious Revolution.
>>2740790
said the cucked guy
>>2736637
it's an island you dumb fuck
>Australia
>Only ever invaded once in 50,000 years
this explains a lot
>>2738114
This little Corsican disagrees with you
>>2736637
teutons normans & romans
>It's another '/His/ poster pretends to be an anglo to start an anglo hate thread'
>>2740606
>Literally had some of the largest coal and iron deposits in europe
>>2736759
My thoughts...
>>2740949
>How have they managed to do it?
>they
More like typical angloshit pretends not to be anglo and fools no one.
>>2740788
>yfw bongs were conquered by frogs 4 (four) times in less than 300 years
>>2741005
It's almost as if France had a population 5x that of England for 800 years
>>2736637
You shouldn't have posted this while the Americans were awake, OP. Everyone knows they don't know shit about any history but their own.
>>2741015
>It's almost as if France had a population 5x that of England for 800 years
pure revisionism
>>2741052
'England and Wales had some 3 million inhabitants around 1300, which rose to 4 or 5 million in the late 1300's. The Black Death annihilated about half of the population. In the 15th century, it had dropped to 2 million, 8 times less than in France. The population grew back to 5 million by 1700, and to 9 million in 1800. At the dawn of the 19th century, the United Kingdom with Scotland and Ireland, had a population of 16 million, almost like Italy (17 million), but still lower than France (27 million) or Germany (25 million).'
>>2741005
>The Normans are french the same way that Algerians that live in France now are french
>Civil War is apparentely a french invasion
>repulsed
>a successful french invasion that results in a peace treaty instead of conquering england
the french are meme for reason they can't even consolidate their victories and usually squander their opportunities, allowing their enemies regroup before killing them. Whether its Germans, Vietnamese, Britbongs or in some cases the entirety of fucking europe they never manage to finish the job and end up getting owned. The only good thing they've done recently was chimp out and kill their monarchy but really Charlemagne was their best since then its been shit
>>2741015
All I'm hearing is excuses.
>>2741102
That's not an excuse, that's a reason.
>>2736637
Japan? Scandinavia?
>>2741101
>1066: Frenchman Guillaume le Batard conquers England and becomes its new ruler
>1153: Frenchman Henri d'Anjou conquers England and becomes its new ruler
>1215: Frenchman Louis le Lion conquers England coming in aid to the (French) barons, from then on the barons take the power away from the king
>1326: Frenchwoman Isabelle de France conquers England and her son becomes its new ruler
> they can't even consolidate their victories
lmao why are bongs such a joke
>>2741107
A reason why England is such a pathetic piece of shit that gets conquered constantly despite having the massive advantage of being an island.
>>2741101
>>The Normans are french the same way that Algerians that live in France now are french
More like in the same way that French people that live in France now are French, despite the 10% or so immigrants.
>>2741118
Literally why are you on a history board if you have no respect for history? It's not a fucking video game where some people are baddies and others are goodies. There are no 'excuses' for defeats. It's just what fucking happened, and we're interested in WHY it happened. In this case, the why is that Britain's population was far smaller than France's.
For fuck's sake, people like you are so irritating. You want to boil history down to a couple of elements so that you can understand it in one sentence.
>>2736637
Wtf! William the dutchy fag invaded it in a bloodless coup
>>2741138
>complains about lack of respect in britbong revisionism thread #16867923 on the worst shitposting board in all of 4chan
>>2741118
An island doesn't mean shit unless you have a superior navy to your enemy. France had a superior navy until 1700.
Furthermore, other countries have been conquered far more than England.
England as an entity was conquered in 1066 and 1688.
France was conquered in 1870, 1813, 1940, 1944, 49, and 1415.
England has historically had a population miniscule to France, so it doesn't have a bad track record.
>>2741150
>this board is already shitty quality so I can be retarded
>>2741144
>The invasion was planned and organised long before a tiny group of unrepresentative, and not particularly important, English dissidents sent their so-called 'invitation' to the Prince of Orange. And although William led the invasion, he had very limited powers in the Dutch Republic. The armada and army were sent, and paid for, by the Dutch States General, Amsterdam and the regents, the group of urban patricians who ran the Dutch state. The Dutch army landed in Devon and gained military control of southern England. It had little assistance from the English rebels. They were too frightened to move against James II's substantial standing army until some three weeks after William's invasion had begun.
>The Prince of Orange held the strategic initiative from the outset. On paper, James had 40,000 men, but they were dispersed all over the country and there was no way he could concentrate an army as large as William's quickly enough. James finally drew up his forces on Salisbury Plain to bar William's path to London, but his army was smaller than the Prince's, as well as inferior in training, experience and equipment, and it was clear that if he fought, he would probably lose. That is why James abandoned the fight for London and retreated, demoralised.
Bloodless because the enemy fled to Ireland.
>>2741101
>The Normans are french the same way that Algerians that live in France now are french
t. William the Bastard
>>2741118
all that mainland cock thrust into it taught her a thing or two about island invasion and conquering though
>>2741166
What the fuck are you even quoting?
>>2741170
Jonathan Israel
>>2741153
lmao what
England was conquered 5 times:
- 1066
- 1153
- 1215
- 1326
- 1688
In the same time-span France was conquered 3 times:
- 1814
- 1870
- 1940
even though England is separated from Europe by the sea, whereas France is the most desirable piece of land right in the middle of Western Europe completely surrounded by powerful and aggressive nations.
>>2741167
Norman isn't even close to French
>>2741174
Norman is literally French with an almost imperceptible accent you hilariously butthurt peasant.
>>2741172
Aren't you forgetting the three times England was conquered during the Wars of the Roses?
>>2741180
Conquered by whom? I'm being fair to England here, it doesn't count if it's a civil war.
>>2741167
>>2741172
1215 Invasion was repelled. 1326 was a Pretender from the same kingdom. 1153 ended in Stephen recognizing Henry as the heir.
I like how you ignored half my other cited invasions of France for unspoken reasons.
Let's face it, you don't really know, or care about history. You're posting here because you feel too smart for /int/, and you've grown out of r/Polandball.
>>2741179
Not even an accent really, it's pretty much just French with a handful of loanwords.
Also half of the so-called "Normans" who joined William in conquering England weren't even from Normandy.
>>2741179
>>2741182
An English pretender backed by a number of supports and a French or Burgundian army and their gold.
I believe they launched three invasions all from continental Europe and every single one succeeding. If anything this prompted England under the Tudors to work on their coastal defense and navy.
>>2741201
Oh wow 13 words are different from French, clearly it's NOT EVEN CLOSE
>>2741204
Shit meme. The vast majority of Henry VII's army was made up of Lancastrian troops.
>>2741208
49 AD, retard.
>>2741196
Many were Britons returning to liberated their lands from the filthy saxon hordes.
During the Wars of the Roses, the factions tripped over each other trying to claim to be the returning Briton Cadwaladr, who was mentioned in Geoffrey of Monmouth's prophecy.
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cadwaladr
It's a 'we call the people who lived within today's geographical borders the nationality that they would now be instead of what they were then' episode, huh?
>>2741210
It's almost like these are examples and not the only separate ones.
>>2741196
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Earl_of_Richmond
>>2741215
France was conquered five centuries before it existed, under the reign of emperor Nero?
lmao bongs
>>2741232
It was a unified entity under Gaul.
>>2741235
That's a precedent you don't want to set Lloyd
Under your terms every group of Germanic tribesmen who ever set foot on your precious island is a different invasion
>>2741243
Oh, no, those are legitimate invasions of Britain. it's just England wasn't a unified identity, England didn't exist.
Also, modern English identity is from the Germanic invaders.
>>2741235
Well no, it was a province of Rome and nothing of importance happened in 49 AD.
But going by that England was also conquered by Celts, Romans, Angles, Saxons, Danes... and I'm probably missing some.
>>2741252
>But going by that England was also conquered by Celts, Romans, Angles, Saxons, Danes... and I'm probably missing some.
They conquered the island of Britain, not England. Those Angles and Saxons went on to form England from the land.
I don't think any modern British person subscribes to Pre Germanic identity.
>>2741249
>modern English identity
Protestant Ethnic Nationalism based upon Jews, where if you were Catholic, you were Non-White. Literally the worst people in history.
>>2741278
>Protestant Ethnic Nationalism based upon Jews, where if you were Catholic, you were Non-White.
>I have never been to England: The Post
>>2741222
Yep. Nothing new.
>>2741283
I've lived in England, London. I went to primary school there, near Maida Vale. Lots of family in the commuter belt of London.
> btw I'm the CAMBRO NORMAN
>>2741308
Using London as a measurement of English Nationalism is like using New York as a basis for US Nationalism. Also you're a welsh cunt so you're a tad bias.
>>2741327
I was referring to the Glorious Revolution you fucking numpty.
>>2741334
What? What are you talking about?
Also, your reaction image shows you're probably not old enough to be posting here.
>>2741340
I clearly stated
> Protestant Ethnic Nationalism based upon Jews
This is a history board, if you want contemporary nationalism, maybe /pol/ is your destination.
>>2741370
Hating the Irish was a different thing. Britain didn't view itself as Protestants ethnically superior to Catholics. It viewed itself as Germanics ethnically superior to Celts.
>>2736637
I know that americans aren't that much into geography but it's called water
>>2736830
Longer than 400 years
>>2741116
> Guillaume le Batard also known as William the Conqueror, a guy who's ancestors came from Scandinavia sailed up the Seine sacked Paris and then settled in Normandy is actually french and totally not a viking
>also french people killing the french people that took over england from its previous anglo-saxon rulers is a massive defeat for the english and a great success for the french
desu the english weren't ruled by the english since the romans killed the celts
>>2736745
>William III and Queen Mary II
>Scots
>>2741431
>ancestor viking
A myth
His ancestors were French + some Bretons, the viking input is very small
>>2741431
William had exactly one ancestor who came from Denmark, his great-great-great-great-grandfather Rollo, who tried to sack Paris and failed miserably, and later became a vassal of the king of France and settled in Normandy where he took a French wife as did every one of his descendants.
Clearly that makes him a Viking, much like every American who can hear his Viking ancestors calling to him.
>>2741704
What is a Viking? A bunch of nomads, mongrels of every type from every corner of Eurasia.
>>2741742
Minuscule marker, very representative of an elite.
>>2736637
Only brought down by its own hand.
>>2736637
being an island nation
>>2736973
>receive support from the government and the majority protestant population mostly asking for a coup
>enter with virtually no opposition from English armies
>wow what a brilliant invasion, napoleon drew his inspiration from the stunning military operation that was the 'bloodless revolution'
>>2741947
Winning without fighting is the greatest of victories.
>>2741947
>hehe, we literally ASKED our foes to invade us and take over as our overlords, so it doesnt count as invasion....
>>2742026
That's literally true though.
This is the worst thread I have ever seen in my life
>>2736853
Do you think Henry III of France spoke a word of Polish? This isn't a condition.
>>2736745
You can really tell a really clever american made this one.
Probably thinks he's irish because he was born in new york and has a stupid mick last name.
If you're born in england you're english.
>>2742332
All Toyota cars made in England are English cars.
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAA
>ruled by foreign kings for basically entire history
jesus christ lmao how cucked can you possibly be?
>>2742447
This is the dumbest "come back" I have ever heard, what on Earth possessed you to even post this, let alone be so pleased with yourself that you posted a laughing gif with it?
>>2742489
You concatenated a whole sentence together yet said absolutely nothing, that is quite a skill you have, could you teach me to speak but yet say nothing?
>>2742503
>concatenated
>>2742504
> he unironically doesn't know what that word means
They're being conquered right now by a bunch of unarmed savages from the middle east and Africa
>>2742447
What are you talking about?
>>2742544
Just to set the record straight, my language IQ is very high, I use that word in software engineering, so the semantic usage in this case may be a grey area for you, but that was an accurate usage of the word, moron.
>>2742569
I use it in software too. That's not what concatenating is in any context.
>>2736745
This entire thing is Bullshit
>>2742575
You're pathetic, seriously though, get a life you fucking loser.
>>2742611
This is how you know when you've lost an argument.
>>2742611
this is american for "ive lost another argument"
>>2742618
>>2742623
>>2742447
Stupidest post in the entire history of /his/.
>>2742636
>it's another thread where irrelevant mainlanders cry about Britain
Cool.
>>2736854
>If there are any collaborationists at all then it's not an invasion
Also
>Bloodless
To this day, I cannot fathom how Ireland exists.
I do not know how they did it. I do not believe that they did it. I do not know why Britain let them do it.
I do not know how we lost a fucking bog.
I simply do not know how it happened.
I also do not know why Britain are letting NI go too. They pretty much signed it away with the GFA, and it's beyond saving now.
A fucking bog.
How did we lose a fucking bog, right next door to us. What the fuck.
>>2740653
t. Muhammad
>>2742332
Good goy! Those lovely muslim immigrants enriching your cities are quintessentially British.
>>2743962
what's quintessentially British?
>>2743113
The Irish are the only true island Celts.
>>2740766
John doesn't deserve the crap thrown to him. It's because of all those Robin Hood stories and Ivanhoe that he gets the evilest king of England reputation. William Rufus is far more vile and despicable. Even Richard the Lionhearted was an asshat who treated England as the Crusading bank for Jerusalem.
>>2740788
>invaded by French again in 1153
This right here is when the English people should hang their heads in collective shame.
There was no shame in losing in 1066 because England got doubled-fucked on 2 opposing sides of the land; the Vikings at York thanks to Hardraada and that cunt Tostig and the Normans in the south by the Bastard. Too many veteran troops died in Fulford Gate and Stamford Bridge. Harold rushed into battle too soon after those brutal fights. Not to mention William the Bastard going apeshit in the Harrying of the North. After ethnic cleansing like that, no shit the Anglo-Saxons decided it was time to throw in the towel.
But the Anarchy was the perfect opportunity to expel the Normans and reassert an English-run government. Instead, the English rolled over and allowed Stephen and Matilda to treat their country as a battleground-turned-charnel house for decades. They willing sucked Plantagenet dick in the form of Henry II.
>>2736637
>Northern Ireland isnt highlighted
IRELAND UNFREE
>>2736647
1688 wasn't really a conquest. People supported William of Orange, he was basically asked to come.
>>2741167
>my ancestors pillaged and raped anglobongs subjugated them, and used their coin to subjugate other people
Feels good being scottsh anglo irish norman
>>2741235
>gaul
>unified
>>2736728
It's Angles not Anglos, reeeee
>>2741262
So... Britain before the Anglo-Saxons is not England, but Gaul before the Franks is still France? That makes no sense.
>Windsors literally should be named Saxe-Coburg and Gotha
>>2736637
their cuisine repels all comers
>>2736745
>George I
>George II
>George III
>George IV
Was it autism?
It's on a fucking island
>inb4 spastics conflate dynastic struggle with subjugation by a foreign "nation"
>>2740411
French kings were French tho
>>2746389
>Who were the Bonapartes