>abjads >logographics Literally why? Why make things harder

>>2723415
People whose languages are based on triconsonantal roots with no consistent vowels.

because vowels are useless and depend on context

>>2723433
>no consistent vowels
explain

>>2723460
>vowels are useless and depend on context
explain

>>2723809
die

>>2723809
Not those guys, but

Vowels in Semitic languages do not play as big a part as in other languages. You can see it in the various spellings of Muhammad, Mohammed, Mohammad, etc.

What *is* important are the three (sometimes four) consonants which make up the word: muHaMaD. These three consonants will always appear in this order, and any word having them will be related to some underlying concept

> HMD - the-concept-of-praise

When these three consonants have various vowels and other consonants placed before/within/after them, they take on the different meanings:

HaMiid - the adjective: 'praiseworthy'/'praised'
HaMD - the noun: 'praise'
muHaMad - the actor: 'someone who praises'
HaMaDa - the verb: 'to praise'

You can see this happening in many Semitic words:

SLM - the-concept-of-submission
SaLaM - 'submission'
muSLiM - 'submiter'
SaLaMa - 'to submit'

So the writing systems, especially of Arabic and Hebrew, tend to emphasise only the consonants and long vowels, leaving the vowels to a speaker's intuition and context.

>>2723905
> speaker's
reader's, obviously

>tfw learning persian
>can guess the pronunciation of most Arabic words without studying Arabic a single day in my life
>can't guess any indoeuropean word because this is too much bullshit

>>2723415
Do you know anything about how Semitic languages work? The Abjad is actually a clever way to write them

>>2724010
yeah, i do like >>2723905 explained
but wouldn't it still be easier to use vowels too?
There would be no guesswork at all and no dependence on context

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>>2724047
I suppose.

There are far more serious issues with the Arabic 'alphabet' than not regularly writing vowels.

There are a few characters which look the same, d/dh, r/z, hard d/hard s, etc; and it has a very low x-height (the 'normal' height of a letter) compared to its ascenders and descenders, meaning that reading it from any distance is a pain in the arse.

One can't deny that Arabic calligraphy is beautiful though.

>>2723415
They weren't made. Your alphabet is derived from an abjad. A few letters were used as vowels and a couple more were introduced later. Classical Latin had no U or Y.

>>2724047
Writing was only really developed so you can get your thoughts across without needing to be there to explain them. It's easier just to rely on context. English has a bunch of homonyms that rely on context as well

>>2723978
Farsi really needs to abandon arabic script. They end up with like 4 letters for s and all that dumb shit.

>>2724236
Three for /s/.

Four for /z/.

>>2724252
Thanks for correcting me, I haven't looked back since college. It was infuriating. I loved speaking it, but reading and writing it was a headache.

>>2724236
Persian Atatürk when?

>>2724268
>TFW there will never be a Zoroastrian Iran helping to ISIS