>Utopian ideologies Hmmm? Oh what's that dear? Oh you

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>>2712349
Cute argument, sweety

I'm currently studying Utopias for a paper and my uneducated ass has come to the conclusion that Utopias are all shit and Paradise cannot exist on Earth.

It's all science fiction about warp drives and time travel and other shit that cannot exist while it handwaves the problems with the very blueprints it sets forth.

>>2712344
this is part of the reason why i have little faith or belief towards candidates that run on ideals rather than policy, on both sides of the spectrum (trudeau, trump, etc)
they either get frozen and blocked within the democratic system, or become pragmatic through compromise

>>2712373
>It's all science fiction about warp drives and time travel and other shit that cannot exist while it handwaves the problems with the very blueprints it sets forth.
I'd recommend checking out Utopia, written by Thomas More
as it was written in the renaissance/late middle ages, it portrays more of an ideological/spiritual utopia than the sci-fi shit that popped up during the industrial era

>>2712344
Tell me why pleasure is even the good.

>>2712391

Utopia is actually what I'm reading at the moment

I didn't mean the science fiction shit literally, I apologize for being unclear; it was intended as a metaphor. I mean it's all ideas that are either unobtainable or have to rely on hadwaves to function, and Utopia is no different. The description of Utopia itself starts with an island that doesn't exist and is important to maintain the trade structure Moore describes. It's unobtainable from the very beginning.