You either die a hero or live long enough to see yourself become a villain. What are some historical figures whom this applies to, /his/?
>>2685977
Caesar
>>2685977
>>2685977
Napoleon
>>2685977
Basically any dictator who terrorized his people and after he died people began opening up about how much he sucked.
Oswald Mosley
>>2685977
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Pericles
>>2685977
America in general.
>>2685977
Themistocles
>>2685977
Benedict Arnold
>>2686140
When did America stop being "good guys?" 1950s? 1910s? 1860s? 1770s?
>>2686271
>When did America stop being "good guys?"
after the fall of the soviet union.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6DXDU48RHLU
>>2685977
Sun Yat Sen and Lenin died early enough to be considered heroes.
>>2686739
this
>>2685982
Marius, Pompey.
Sulla may be a weird subversion of the trope.
>>2685977
If he had died in 2006 he'd be the GOAT PM of Turkey
>>2685977
Fidel Castro
>>2686739
should have drowned swimming across that river desu
>>2686053
>that jawline
>>2688013
He could have been one of the greatest poet-critics of all time had he stayed off the opium
>>2685977
Ludendorf
>>2687106
Even at the time there were people who knew what kind of faggot he was, its just that it looked as if the country was developing in an economically sustainable way.
Eamon de Valera