What does /his/ think of Glubb's The Fate of Empire and

people.uncw.edu/kozloffm/glubb.pdf

btw, link for his essay

>>2670740
It's nonsense strongly influenced by 19th century and its ideology. It's not even a scholarly work. There are no references, no bibliography, nothing.

Babby first cyclical hist

>>2670740

The analysis is correct, the speculation is unjustified. Societies have a lifespan, this is true of all historic societies and so is probably true of our own, too. The reasons why this happens are vastly more complex than a generational schemata, and really are different for every society since they are largely context-dependant.

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>>2670740
>a, studies are brief and prejudist
Doesnt it depends on the the sources? Dont read wikipedia pages, if you want to learn about the past, you retard

>b, 250 year average lenght of greatness
Why is that surprising? Actually, if you look at the last major powers (Prussia, Dutch, Imperial Spain, Napoleon, Louis XIV, Soviet, Nazis, Japan) then this span is actually a lot shorter. Like, is that his point, that greatness only last for a limited time?

>c, average has not changed much
What is your point again?

>d, states rise and fall
awesome observation, bro. blows the mind

e, decadence is marked with several shit
Lack of religion? (like in rome huh?, or Dutch Golden Age?, or Spain Golden Age, or Arab Golden Age?, or Andalusian Golden Age? you know all because religion took over hand)
Pessimism, defensivness (i think there are more then enough examples of exactly the opposite (Nazi Germany, Imperial Germany, Napoleonic France, Persia of old)
Influx of Foreigners (Spain collapsed because they kicked all foreigners out), also lot of Empires fall without any need of foreigners being involved.-

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>>2671026
>f, decadence is due to too much wealth, love of money, selfishness
I dont know, Murrice seems to do just fine. China right now -moving towards more materialism- looks also to be on the right track. The Tang were the most materialist of the chinese dynasties and they had 300 years of greatness; the Dutch became a european great power because they were so stinking rich, Great Britains move towards Capitalism had made them the first global power.

>g, history of great states are all similiar
That is just completely retarded

>h, fall is due to external reasons
Wait, didnt he say exactly the opposite above, that its because they are all too decadent, materialist and atheist?

I, history should be taught for the human race with emphasis of your own country
Oookay... What has that to do with the subject matter at hand


tl, dr: Its a pretty generic and shitty conclusion to the rise and fall of great nations

>>2670740
The signs of decadence are indeed easy to observe. It is just spoilt children growing up taking all their material wealth for granted. Hence the "loss of sense of duty". The Age of Pioneers and Conquest makes sense I guess, any empire had some phase in which they expanded, so it is meaningless. All other Ages, Commerce, Affleunce and Intellect were so poorly defined in Fate of Empires that these Ages are useless. So what we end up with, after cutting all crap, is the basic premise of cyclic theory of society "good times create weak men".

I like the theory, but it is poorly structured here.

>>2671026
>>2671054
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