>Yasuke >African samurai >Made so by Nobunaga himse

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ranald_MacDonald
Native American english teacher in 1820's

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dembei
A Japanese merchant was shipwrecked on the coast of the Kamchatka Peninsula. He was found by the Cossack explorer Vladimir Atlasov and taken back to Russia against his wishes where he lived the rest of his life.

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>>2663775
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ishi

"samurai"
He was a pet monkey for Nobunaga, you're looking for William Adams.

>>2665443
This. He was just a status symbol.

>>2665443
That doesn't change the fact that he was indeed made a samurai by Nobunaga.

>>2665524
the op seems to imply that his station had some kind of honour or purpose beyond being an oddity for a king to collect

>>2665533
He was an oddity sure, but still a samurai who fought for Nobunaga and served him until his death. The "why" in this case is almost entirely irrelevant to the subject of the OP, "fish out of water" figures in history.

>His name is Yasuke
>African samurai
>Made so by Nobunaga himself
>Was there when Nobunaga killed himself

These are all factual statements.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gonzalo_Guerrero

>that article
>people calling out the sources in the talk pages

I'll wait until I know how to read moonrunes before I have an opinion on this person.

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https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roman_von_Ungern-Sternberg

Insane Russian White who was basically IRL colonel Kurtz. Restored the Bogdian Khagnate in 1920s.

Hated commies. Hated Jews too.

>>2665596
>Baron Robert Nicolaus Maximilian von Ungern-Sternberg (Russian: Бapoн Póбepт-Hи́кoлaй-Maкcими́лиaн Poмáн Фёдopoвич фoн У́нгepн-Штépнбepг)[1][2] (10 January 1886 NS – 15 September 1921) was an anti-Bolshevik lieutenant general in the Russian Civil War and then an independent warlord whose Asiatic Cavalry Division wrested control of Mongolia from the Republic of China in 1921 after its occupation. He was often referred to as Baron Ungern, or simply Ungern.

>Ungern was an arch-conservative pan-monarchist who aspired to restore the Russian monarchy under Grand Duke Michael Alexandrovich of Russia and to revive the Mongol Empire under the rule of the Bogd Khan. In February 1921 he expelled Chinese troops from Mongolia and restored the monarchic power of the Bogd Khan.

You: play mount and blade
Ungren: live mount and blade.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pytheas

ancient greek explorer
>In this voyage he circumnavigated and visited a considerable part of Great Britain. He is the first person on record to describe the Midnight Sun. Pytheas is the first known scientific visitor and reporter of the Arctic, polar ice, and the Germanic tribes. He introduced the idea of distant Thule to the geographic imagination, and his account of the tides is the earliest known to suggest the moon as their cause. Pytheas may have also reached Iceland.[1]

>>2665596
Thanks for posting this guy, very cool story and I found a new book to read.

>>2666127
Bull fucking shit

>>2665545
He wasn't a samurai. You aren't made a samurai, that is a class you're born into.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gonzalo_Guerrero

Spanish sailor, captured by Mayans, freed by other Mayans, ended up fathering the first Mestizo children (offspring of Europeans and Native mesoamericans), and went fully native until he became a military leader under his Mayan master.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Constantine_Phaulkon

This dude needs a movie.

>>2667249

>mobile link

I dislike this

>>2663775
We wuz Samurai and shieet
I am ancestor of Naruto

he was not a samurai. that is historical revisionism. there is a lot of it surrounding african related stuff for some reason. there is nothing in japanese sources suggesting that he was anything more than a lap dog.

"samurai" is a hereditary class of nobility.

>>2667171
Depends on the times, just like in Europe, you could be made a noble and you could be made a samurai. It was rare and all, but not impossible.

I can't believe they're making a film about this peacock

Why does black related history send everyone into a frenzy?

>>2667568
It's because they're black.

>>2663807
>ronald McDonald
Wuh?

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Mungo Park. I really need to read his accounts.

>>2667171
Except no you could be made a samurai. Case in point, Hideyoshi. He was born a peasant and was made a samurai by Nobunaga because he showed promise.

It was Hideyoshi who would go on to ban the raising of commoners to samurai status and make it something you could only be born into. After Nobunaga's time.

>>2665596

Wow, this guy is interesting.

From what I understand, the Samurai as a distinct class was more of a post Sengoku period thing.

So a common peasant or even a foreigner could become a samurai so long as the Daimyo (who were basically kings when there was no real Shogun overlord) said so.

WE WUZ BUSHIDO N SHIT

>>2665545
They are going to make a movie about him and I can't wait to have /pol/ spamming every board I browse with WE WUZ.

>>2668248
Even during the edo period you could buy your way into samurai status, or be adopted into it, or be rewarded it.

The main difference is that sengoku samurai owned land and often worked it, where as edo period samurai worked a a stipend and usually lived in the city

>>2668267
>WE WUZ

I don't even understand this meme anymore. Its used now for an actual black persons who were actually the things the meme is supposedly mocking.

>>2668284
>The main difference is that sengoku samurai owned land and often worked it,

All of them? There was no landless 'men-at-arms' version of Samurai? (not including Ronin).

>>2668297
For me the KANGZ meme reached its low point when someone unironically posted it in a thread about Mansa Musa.

I mean... how? Why?

>>2667171
Up until a certain time, every person with enough money to buy a sword and a horse could be considered a samurai. It wasn't a class. It was a name that could have been appropriated by anyone.

>>2668306
Well anyone granted the status was a samurai was a samurai, but they were often rewarded in the form of an estate.

>>2668333
Not true, even during the early medieval period bushi were quick to draw a distinction between warrior families and others like court nobles who participated in battle.

The only period this is true was the very very early period where providential and low ranking court nobles were carving out a place for themselves as military men at arms, but even then most of these men had ties to the court and were often descended from the imperial court

the shi in bushi indicates gentlemanly status. originally samurai simply refereed to the hirelings of this class

>>2668352
>The only period this is true was the very very early period
That is what I was referring about. And you'll agree with me that the people that could afford a horse, a sword and the set of armor that goes with it had to be somewhat rich enough.

>>2668320
Its no joke ,only white people actually see blacks as human.

>>2668373
Its been awhile since I read up on the period, there were a class of wealthy farmer who could afford all that but were not technically samurai or bushi.

my understanding is most "bushi" of that period had ties to the court, but your point might be valid as the status was not really set in stone until the kamakura period

>>2665596

Are the times of fantastic feats over? WW1 was it boyos. Times where a white man could go to anywherebakistan and make it happen

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jeffrey_Hudson

>court dwarf for the Queen of England
>civil war breaks out and he is made a captain for the royalists
>after fleeing to france he kills a guy who bullied him
>then gets kidnapped by corsairs
>is sent to Africa where homo slavers rape him with BBC

>>2668306

jesus christ you're literally being That Kid in history class.

social status was codified into law by hideoyoshi.

prior to 17th cen., it was pretty common to have samurai that worked the land in the spring and autum and fought in the winter and summer.

the codifying if samurai status was not just political but also economical. the division of labor was something that had been experimented with in sengoku jidai, and it increased economic output while ensuring a professional, dedicated warrior class.

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Tomas Claudio

The only Filipino to die in WWI
>I was only 25 years old.
>I loved the Americans so much, I studied in their public schools and rejoiced in their modern industry.
>I pray to America every night thanking them for the modernization I have been given.
>"What Spain failed to do in 300 years," I say, "America did in 10."
>My dad hears me and calls me an Hereje.
>He is obviously jealous of my gratitude to America
>I called him a cunt
>He slaps me and sends me to my room
>I am crying now, because my face hurts
>I go into my bed and it is very cold
>I feel a warmth moving towards me
>I felt something touch me
>It's America.
>I am so happy.
>He whispers into my ear, "Destroy the mad tyrants of Europe before they swallow the world in their endless games of empire."
>He grabs me with his powerful american hands and puts me in the United States Army.
>I'm ready to go to France.
>I fix my bayonet on my rifle
>He gives the order to go over the top and we get shot at by Germans.
>It hurts so much, but I do it for Freedom.
>I can feel my gut shot and my eyes start to water
>I push against the Germans.
>I want to please America.
>I roar a mighty roar as I die fighting the Germans.
>My dad walks in my funeral
>America looks him deep in the eyes and says, "The Kaiser is finished, he's gone to a better hole."
>America gives me a hero's burial.
America is love, America is life.

The nigger general that scouted and trained Suvorov.

>yfw he was a cuck

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>>2668598
DOG BLESS

>>2668321
Because Mansa Musa was just some guy sitting on huge gold mines with enough slaves to work them and on the transaharan trade routes. Afrocentrists love to use him as an example of African civilization, because he "crashed Egypt's economy because he spent so much gold XD", which is at best overblown. It gets tiring. I wish they'd use better examples of actually impressive African history.

>>2665443
>black samurai can't exist because that would contradict my reactionary worldview

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>>2665443
>He was just a pet monkey, here, let me give you another pet monkey.
Every foreign servant was a status symbol in East Asia.

For example: Chinese kept Iranic slaves not for labor, but just to point out to guests, tell them "LOOK HOW FOREIGN THIS GUY IS AND HOW RICH I AM TO HAVE THIS GUY LOAD AROUND FOR NO GOOD REASON" and moved on.

Provided they did have some roles one way or another: foreign men were often armed retainers while foreign women were often mistresses and bedwarmers.

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>>2667568
Because it's invariably going to be thought about as close to the US and african american culture which is seen as a big part of the "mongrel" sort of nature of the US and globalization

That sounds a bit weird but basically what I mean is that it's destined to be thought of politically and not just "moment in time" interesting history. It's thought about in terms of MODERN paradigms and not in its own time.

This is why whatever movie they make abiut this will SUCK unless they do it very particularly well. There should be no connotations to modern politics. I mean, there CAN be I guess if the director makes that choice as an artist and creator but that becomes a whole other thing and it just means the director's a retard.

>>2668751
That he crashed the economy of mamluk-ruled egypt is highly unlikely, the region was far richer than he could ever hope to be. What he supposedly did was crash the local economies of the city states we went through as he was making his way to Mecca during his hajj pilgrimage. We don't even know which road he took, might have gone through egypt, might have gone through ethiopia/yemen, might have took the fucking boat. We don't know.

From what I understand, he is only parroted as the wealthiest man in history because he considered all the wealth of his state as his immediate private property. In which case, there is a large body of autocrats from before and after him who could make a similar claim. it's not even like Mali has the monopoly on gold mines.

>>2665596
>>2665605
So is this guy /pol/ personified?

I can't believe this guy was a real

>>2667171
Tell that to Nobunga.

Yasuke was an honourable warrior of great skill, he was the embodiment of Bushido. Goes to show the ingenuity of the African people, but I suppose racists will find any excuse to deny them that.

>>2669996
Considering he married someone nonwhite? Nope.

>>2670154
>pol
>white

>>2663775
WE

>>2669996
That article is 100% based on Palmer's book which is literal horseshit. Don't trust Bolschewikipedia, seriously.

>>2670197
WANT

>Nobunaga praised Yasuke's strength, describing it as that of ten normal men

God, i hate my inferior asian genes. God doesn't exist, that's why

>>2668761
Did he have his own lands?

>>2670154
>implying /pol doesn't decide who is white based upon who has recently removed kebab XDDD

>>2663775
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sabu_Dastagir

>born as the son of a mahout.
>gets discovered by a brit who is there
>works in several brit and american films
>becomes a US citizen
>joins the airforce
>gains a distinguished flying cross

>dies of a heart attack
>two days before that his doctor says "If all my patients were as healthy as you, I would be out of a job."

>>2667314
Thank you for some sense on the subject
Shills are everywhere

>>2671493
>posts blatantly incorrect information
>But because it supports your worldview, it's sense

Neck yourself

>>2668604
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abram_Petrovich_Gannibal
His great-grandson was Alexander Pushkin

>>2668488
The guy he duelled showed up with what was basically a giant syringe. Was that a joke?

>>2664560
>>2667249
>>2665577
These ones always make me sad. In the case of Ishi, it must have been tragic seeing the last speaker of an obscure language die after bringing him into civilization and giving him such a good life. In the case of Guerrero, there's something noble about abandoning a conquering power.

>>2668788
>was

Rich chinks today still try to only hire white servants because it makes them look even richer.

There's a reference in the Irish Annals to black slaves in Ireland around the 9th century (might have been the 10th) brought by Vikings from a raid on Morocco.

>>2673522
>be prince in some Chad tier shithole
>brought to Russian north as a slave boy for the emperor
>become military engineer, artillery general
>nobility, coat of arms n shit
>without you Russia wouldn't have had her greatest military genius, Suvorov
>as well as her greatest poet, Pushkin
>bbc
>still a cuck
>so is Pushikn

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>>2663775
Japanese poet who became an Italian commando during WWI and then went on to conquer Fiume under the command of the Nietzschean warrior-poet Gabriele D'Annunzio.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harukichi_Shimoi

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>>2668751
>Because Mansa Musa was just some guy sitting on huge gold mines with

So the guy doesn't count as a king because the legend of his wealth is overblown? Does being over-rated somehow erase the things that are objectivity true now?

>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ernest_Douwes_Dekker

A ditch turn into indonesian nationalist

>>2677383
*dutch

>>2677046
Thank you

>>2668788
>not for labor, but just to point out to guests, tell them "LOOK HOW FOREIGN THIS GUY IS AND HOW RICH I AM TO HAVE THIS GUY LOAD AROUND FOR NO GOOD REASON"
Nothing really changes then

>>2674951
his wife was also Swedish

John Blackthorne was a 17th century English navigator, who was the first Englishman to visit Japan.

Blackthorne was described as a navigator, who was the "first English pilot ever to get through Magellan's Pass," working for Dutch traders in 1600 who navigated his ship, the Erasmus, to Japan, where he and the surviving crew were immediately imprisoned. A Protestant like his crewmates, Blackthorne was branded as a heretic by the Portuguese Jesuits who controlled all foreign trade in Japan, though the Jesuits were powerless to kill him outright due to local political considerations. Blackthorne was taken to Tokugawa Ieyasu, the daimyo who controlled the territory in which Blackthorne and the Erasmus first landed. Tokugawa quickly realized that Blackthorne and his ship presented a great opportunity, not only in his dealings with the Portuguese, but also in his struggle with his main rival, Ishida Mitsunari, over future control of all of Japan. Tokugawa ordered Blackthorne imprisoned, not to punish him, but to keep him out of Ishida's hands. While in prison Blackthorne met a Franciscan priest who gave him a much greater understanding of the political and economic situation in Japan, and how the Portuguese and the Jesuits fitted into it. The priest also began teaching Blackthorne the rudiments of the Japanese language.

Having been told by the priest that all who enter the prison are eventually executed, Blackthorne was prepared to die when his name was called (the Japanese called him "Anjin-san" - Mr. Pilot - because his English name was too difficult to pronounce, there being no sounds or characters in Japanese for much of his name). Instead, the guards took him to Osaka Castle, where he was cleaned up and told by Mariko - the Christian wife of one of Tokugawa's samurai who, like Blackthorne, was fluent in Portuguese and Latin - that Lord Tokugawa wished to know more about England and its war against the Spanish and Portuguese.

>>2677453
As a result of a series of events, Blackthorne eventually found himself very close to Tokugawa, and saved his life occasionally. He was awarded the titles of hatamoto and samurai, as he began to understand and deeply respect Japanese culture. But to complicate matters, he started to fall in love with his interpreter, Mariko, and they eventually became lovers. Though Blackthorne asked Tokugawa to sever Mariko's marriage so she would be free to marry him, Tokugawa refused and ordered Blackthorne never to speak of the matter again. In spite of this, Blackthorne became a trusted friend of Tokugawa.

Tokugawa defeated Ishida's forces in the Battle of Sekigahara and became shogun. Though Tokugawa secretly had Erasmus burned and beached, he permitted Blackthorne to begin construction if another ship to keep him occupied, but also determined that he would never be allowed to leave Japan for the rest of his life. Blackthorne eventually died in Japan without ever having returned to England.

>>2677453
>>2677456
That's a book you dumb nigger. The real guy was called William Adams.

>>2677459
Idiot

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>>2668488

>No details of his captivity were recorded except one fact: he claimed to have grown to 45 inches during this time, doubling his height after 30 years of age,[4] which he attributed to the buggery he had regularly suffered at the hands of his captors.[1]

so bbc can turn manlets into men, really makes you think

Why do people like fucking dwarves so much

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>>2665443

You are insulting Bushido

>>2679204
Bushido is a false idol

>>2663775
WHERE'S THE MOVIE, HOLLYWOOD!?

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>>2679252

You understand only visible things.
His skin is black

>>2679293
WE
WUZ
BUSHIDO
N
SHIET

British adventurer who ended up becoming a Rajah, and who's dynasty lasted well into the 20th century I believe.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_Brooke

>>2668761
Post irony?

>>2679316
He became gay in the process.

>>2670197
Wuz

>>2667821
>>2665545

quality posts

>>2679609

this.

We CANNOT tolerate racism as a community.

>>2679724
The sad thing is that I can't tell if this is genuine or sarcasm.

>>2668488
>North Africa
>Barbary pirates
(mostly) not black

>>2668751
So he's not impressive because some legends of him have been exaggerated? I think that you just hate seeing a black person being admired. The idea of a black king probably infuriates you

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Is Jesus Christ a black one?

>>2679780
It's obvious bait.

>>2663775
Do we have any idea to what happened to William Adam's sons?

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Sumo wrestler will be a samurai
He is Japanese.

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Surprised this guy hasn't been posted yet.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yang_Kyoungjong

>>2668488
>Lord Minimus
im going to start calling all manlets that now