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>Germany weren't the bad guys in WWI! It was different

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>Germany weren't the bad guys in WWI! It was different than WWII!
>They just started a horrific bloody war over an obscure backwater assassination in order to gain any semblance of relevance, using atrocious chemical and biological weapons on innocent people, using serrated bayonets and other inhumane vile tactics to win a war they started all to try and land somewhere somewhat important on the global stage!

Otto Van Bismarck is the same shit as Hitler and Merkel.
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>bismarck
>wwi
Bait
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France and UK are cancer. Imperial Germany and Nazi Germany are far better than your shitty le democracy republic.

And no, your country is not good.
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>>2657459
>muh serrated bayonet
Cry moar.
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>>2657482
>shitty le democracy republic
>le
First of all, France was the only republic in the whole fucking region, secondly, fuck off back to r*ddit because that "le" shit doesn't cut it here.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4ztOV2wrrkY

obligatory
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But Germany didn't start it, blame Austria Hungary fags for dragging the Germans into it.
Or better yet, blame Serbian niggers.
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>>2657519
No one dragged germans into it, they wanted to prove their economical and military growth and gain more power.

Germans would not have declared total support no matter what for austria-hungary if they wanted to avoid war.
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>>2657459
I will not say the Germans weren't brutal during the war, but it was a brutal war and I'd say there's an even balance of attrocities to blame on any combatant power you wish.

However you cannot deny the fact that the older super powers of Europe (France, Britain, Russia) very much hated the idea of this newly unified, militaristic, super state growing in power in the midst of the old powers. Germany did take aggressive action against Belgium, which was their only true crime against neutral sovereignty. The Germans were backing their eastern kingdom in a Balkan war, and the Franco-Russian pact meant that since Russia had declared war to protect serbia, the Germans had to fight France as a given.

The British should have just stayed out of the war, they went in for wishy-washy reasons and survived the war as a much more indebted, poorer, and weaker power, with a huge Bolshevik problem in their industrial slums.

The Germans of the great war were different from the Nazi Germans without a doubt. The only glaring similarity that makes people think otherwise is the German veneration for militarism. The German empire had no democracy, the third Reich had democratically elected a man running on the platform of putting an end to democracy. Not to mention most Germans hated Kaiser Willy while Hitler enjoyed an approval rating in his pre-war years of close to 95%
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>>2657459
>Bismarck
>WW1
I guess that fits together with how much nonsense the entire rest of that post was.
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>>2657459
After Bismarck German diplomacy was garbage. If the German foreign office were 1/10 as good as Bismarck, there would not have been WW1.

>inb4 muh powder keg
Fuck off history isn't preordained. There were multiple flare ups in the late 19th/early 20th century and none of them led to world war. The only reason why the assassination caused WW1 was because of German autism.

Read about Gray. Poor lad did everything he could to prevent war but the autism was too strong.
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>>2657729
if it was German autism, then I guess you just changed the definition of the word autism to mean that you are a new, growing continental super power surrounded on all sides by older powers that are hell bent on containing your growth and military strength, so when Russia attacks, you decide to do your best to quickly knock out the French in order to not be quagmire in a two front industrialized war.

Gray looked for peace because one: he despised Serbia, and two: he didn't want a general European war to harm his empire's client states on the continent, one of which was the German empire. number three, and most important reason Gray wanted peace: he was not privy to the details of the Franco-Russian pact.
Reason number four: this new German empire was building a Berlin to Baghdad railway, which placed German influence very close to Britain's Persian oil fields and also drew German influence in the ottoman empire to an all time high, potentially threatening the all important Suez canal. Gray had realpolitik reasons for his actions at the time, just as everyone else did.
Yes, there were several previous Balkan wars and crises in the years leading up to the great war, but none of them involved the complex and numerous pacts of mutual protection between the large powers of Europe in the same way the crisis of August, 1914 did.
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