Did Russia have a "wild west" on their frontier

No.

Everything Russian is overwhelming and oppressive, not like the wholesome frontier life lived by based americans.

Gunslingers, cattle rustlers and train robbers made shit interesting so people didnt die of boredom without wifi

>>2643952
don cossacks. someone here probably knows moer about them than i do

>>2643964
So even in the vast, wild expanses of Siberia, the government still maintained control over everything?

No it's too cold. Like you would literally die in winter night from cold if you were outdoors.

>>2643952
It had a frontier to be settled but that's where the comparison's end. Among many differences is that in America there was a gold rush and giant population boom as a result.

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>>2643952
I don't know much about it but i imagine it more as that movie "the revenant" with leonardo dicaprio where they play trappers, than as a proper wild west with booming towns and outlaws and advanced technology and all that

>>2643952

>you can cosplay The Witcher in central to far east Russia and no one will notice it

Putin, this is your new cash crop.

>>2643952
>what are the Cossacks for a fistful of dollars

As someone else said, there were the cossacks. You doubtless already know about gulags, but some political prisoners would be taken to far-flung penal colonies and forced to do back-breaking labour in the middle of fucking nowhere. If they tried to run away, they'd freeze to death. Some other settlements are industrialist death-traps: frontier cities founded for the purpose of mining/extracting resources/whatever under extremely dodgy safety conditions.

http://www.darkroastedblend.com/2010/10/siberian-ghost-cities-scare.html.

>>2644944
But Novgorod is in west Russia anon

>>2644977
>freeze to death
Both Stalin and Lenin fled at least twice. Also this https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lena_massacre, more scandalous as the Tsar's mother held shares, but still Nicky, Alexie and Alexander were innocent

>>2643952
A better comparison would be Canada's Rupert's Land and North-Western Territory.

>>2644984
Stalin was exiled to a remote town just out of the arctic circle. I was meaning more those penal camps inside the arctic circle built on permafrost that shouldn't really exist.

Wild West is Turkestan and Siberia is Canada

>>2643952
Siberias natives weren't as barbaric and exotic as native Americans. You can't really compare that.

Went the Russians came those nomads probably said: "lol whatever. have fun with the frozen wasteland and the deadly bears." and simply continued to live like they used to.

Meanwhile the Indians went full: "MUH HOLY LAND. MUH BUFFALOS. MUH ANCESTORS."

>>2645022
lol chukchas liteally won a war against russians using only stones and sticks,
Russian history is full of interesting and funny moments, but they are not very well known beacuse russians only care about muh ww2

Yeah its called Russia, and it extends from the west, east, south, and north

>>2643952

Yes, it's very comparable. Siberia wan't an empty wasteland, it was settled by many barbarian tribal peoples, many of whom used the horse as their key weapon just like the plains Indians did.

>>2643952
Yes and no. Siberia wasn't like California or Oregon. It's not a place that you would like to settle into and most Russians who went east were usually exiled criminals or persecuted religious minorities. It's a very shit place to live compared to the Russian heartland west of the Urals.

Most Russians went to the Caucasus and the Ukraine if they wanted to settle elsewhere.

>>2643952
No because nobody was rushing to move to siberia.

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>>2643952
Id imagine it was kind of similar to the real wild west. Like the wild west you see in TVs never really happened, those are just made up by the movie industry. For example you werent allowed to carry guns inside town in the real wild west. The wild west as its shown in the film industry is one of the bigger myths some people still believe in.
Oh and dont get me started on the actual population. They were filled with mexicans, escaped black slaves fleeing the law and white farmers and miners. Then later on they got a prostitue industry going where the whores became rich because barely any women wanted to go there. The prostittues got so rich off of whoring themselves that they got involved with politics.
But yeah, back to the question at hand, i imagine it was something similar for the siberian expansion except instead of being hellishly warm it was hellishly cold.

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>>2644977
>Missing the bus could be a life-threatening situation:

>>2646626
>lol chukchas liteally won a war against russians using only stones and sticks,
what churkas are you talking about? alaska natives?

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>>2644944
Well Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth had a pretty interesting Wild East which was like a whole other country on its own people who had more power than the monarch.

>>2643990
Same thing would happen in Wyoming in the winter

>>2646837
So more like Australia, that started out as a convict colony.

just imagine if the eu existed in 1533 moscow inclusive

>>2643981
How do you think communists took over the country so easy?

>>2643952
or if everyone turned their assholes to the northpole and farted, melting the icecaps, we'd have global hegemony by now, nederlands would be underwater, but global hegemony!!!

>>2643952
Yes, see volga krauts

Replace indians with muslism raiders

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>>2643952
No, we mostly sent our Religious nuts and prisoners to Siberia. It was basically Australia that you could walk to.

Also, the Cossack did most of the killing injuns. Like the US west though, Siberia fucking sucks and the government only cares about the economic centres there.

>>2650186
They didn't, they succeeded only after a protracted struggle
>>2643972
Pretty much this, and other cossacks - until they were culled buy the Bolsheviks of course

>>2643952
We've got much better action in the 90's right after USSR dissolution.
It's like wild west, but with automatic weapons and two Chechen wars!