>Attila >Temujin >Timur Turko-Mongol people are the

>>2621812
>Atilla
Got destroyed by Romans and Germanics

>Temujin
*Help I've fallen and can't get up*

>Timur
Literally who?

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>>2621824
>Got destroyed by Romans and Germanics

Dying of a nosebleed is not "getting destroyed".

>Timur
>Literally who?

Get out of here.

>>2621812
Mongols had heavy cavalry?

>>2621824
>not knowing timur

Read a book before you come here nigger.

>Turks still LARP as Mongols

LMAO

>>2621838
Sure they had, its not like all of tem were horse archers.

>>2621845
Why not? Horse archers and lancers with bows, who needs more?

>>2621851
That's like saying the only tools you'll ever need is vicegrips and duct tape. Yeah you can do a lot with them but a hammer is always handy.


More tools = more options

>>2621838
Thanks for reminding me /his/ knows fuck all about history kill yourself.

>>2621876
But using new tools requires both new tools and time to invest learning new tools. The resources could be invested into perfecting the tried and true horse archery.

>>2621882
>he doesn't know something important about this very narrow subject in history, therefore he knows nothing about history at all
I just don't care much about military history, sorry.

>>2621834
Timur's face is like "is this nigga serious?" So fitting.

Central Asian armor and clothing is aesthetic as fuck

>>2621812
>Turk
>Mongol
>Attila

Mongols are not Turks. Attila is a Hun. Huns are not Mongols, nor Turks.

>>2621927
Huns spoke a Turkic language.

>>2621812
Turks really are not Mongols, modern Mongols usually also don't consider you as their brethren. You need to stop your little role playing game.

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>>2621957
I'm not even Turkish, retard. "Turko-Mongol" is a real term used to describe the traditions of the two people.

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>>2621979
>Gilan included as part of the Ilkhanate
I hate maps that do that either they be Mongolian, Turkic or Arab Califat. Neither conquered that region of backwater Dailamite warlords.

Zerg rush is a hell of a tactic.

Doesn't make them better warriors though.

>>2622113
>Doesn't make them better warriors though

t. nordcuck only good at raping and killing innocent coastal villagers

>>2621896
>very narrow
Is this guy serious?

>>2622277
deal with it

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>>2621896
>military history is a narrow subject

War is the single thing that has influenced history the most, seconded only by religion

>>2622422
War, maybe, but Mongolian horse cavalry armour of the 13th century?

Yes. Vikings would have get their asses handed to them had they met the Mongols.

Vikings are overrated. They are only so famous because they were blonde and blue eyed. Had they been ugly chinks from half accross the world, there'd be no media about them.

Vikings were not even good warriors against the people they fought. They were only good sailors

>>2621979
I would call them "Nomads".

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>>2622623
>Vikings would have get their asses handed to them had they met the Mongols

They technically did to some extent since Kievan Rus was founded by Vikings.

>>2623021
>Khan'd

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>>2621812
approved.

>>2621812
>filename
>heavy infantry
>on a horse

>>2621812
>Charles Martell
>Charlemagne
>Godfrey of Bouillon
Why are Franchmen so good at cockblocking Muslims?

>>2623131
Tell that to the guys from Charlie Hebdo, Nice or Bataclan

>>2623082
Medieval 2 has taught me that advanced infantry is just dismounted horse cavalry.

>>2622132
>somehow different from mongolcuck only good at raping and killing innocent farmers
really kickstarts the electricity in my head

>>2621812
I think its wrong to compare the vikings to the nomads.
Just try putting their hordes in Scandinavias rough terrain and proceed to raid with them by sea. It should work just as well as putting vikings in the steppes

>>2621812
>Temujin
>Warrior

Has no one heard of Subutai on /his/?

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>>2621812
>Leader dies.
>Infighting ensues.

>Attacks defenseless border villages.
>Usually scratches heads when facing a wall.

>Easy to bribe.

>Gets fucked up when enemy is using combined arms.

>Is finally put down by firearms.

>>2621925
Post pics of it then

>>2623131

ahahahahahahahaha

>t. France has to live with terrorism

*gets beheaded by isis in his country

>>2625151
>>Gets fucked up when enemy is using combined arms.

Noone ever used combined arms against the mongols.

>>2625131
>let me show everyone how smart I am by name dropping the most famous Mongol outside the khans' lineage

>>2627198
Fucking wrong.

>>2623193
Well, cavalry tended to consist of the best soldiers around, so yes that's right, save for the "advanced" part.

>>2621812
Attila was Germanic

>>2621979
Turko-Mongol is used to describe a unique hybrid culture from Mongols giving Turkish girls the BMC.

>>2621812
At least Vikings weren't horse fuckers.

>>2621824
At least play Europa Universalis to knew anything about Timur

>>2627665
>Altaic

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>>2621812
didnt they like, all kill a brother, and are now all irredeemable backwards soviet reminent shitholes?

also baghdad library and the reason of islamic fanatacism

timur lost an entire empire.

what the fuck is this shit

>>2621812
Well it's easy to be a good warrior ontop of a horse, isn't mate? :^)

>>2621908
such an intellectual observation

fuck off nigger

>>2621812
Agreed

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>>2621842

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>>2634167
>implying Turks don't look Turkic

Descendants of the nordic people now control practically all of the world and have for hundreds of years. That's a pretty strong argument, I think.

>>2621930
Do you know that the Huns existed centuries before the first attestation of proto-Turkic?

>>2631358
They were good warriors, but usually that also meant they were shitty administrators

>>2634183
that is a cool animu character desu..

>>2621930
Yes and Tajiks speak Persian. That doesnt mean they are Iranic people.

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>>2622081
>mfw when my family is from Masuleh,Gilan
feels good

>>2627684
More like all of them living next to eachother for centuries leading to many cultural similarities

>>2634167
topkek

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>>2627198
Fuck Alexander, every civilization who ever lived near the steppes did combined arms almost at day one.

Just consider the bog standard tactic in Eurasia of missile troops marching with mobile fortifications whose role in battle is to provide an anchor in the battlefield while the cavalry acts as the army's offensive arm, charging, withdrawing, and countercharging in and out of the safe space provided by the infantry ensuring nomadshits can't fully have the run of the battle.

Ivan did it, Persians did it, Chinks did it.

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>>2623078
disapproved
KEK

>>2634255
KEK
Jews are nordic?

>>2621812
>"Turko"-Mongol people
>Temujin

So if a foreign horde invades, subjugates, and forcibly impresses my people into their continent wide war machine, i can still take credit for their successes by putting a hyphen between our two ethnicities?

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>>2634183
What the actual fuck...?

>>2628640
There is no Timur in eu4 and eu3 .

>>2634958
yes it does.

>>2634958
what can make them more iranic than language?

>>2636348
I don't know others.

>>2621812
>Attila
Xiongnu (Mongol)
>Temujin
Mongol
>Timur
Mongol

The only nonOttoman Turk conqueror I remember off the top of my head is Alp Arslan.

>>2622113
>zerg rush
One of their more famous tactics is the feigned retreat though, which is pretty much the opposite.

>>2636348
True, the timurid dynasty is already at its peak when eu4 starts. How about the mughals as a replacement? Another fucking horselord murder horde that picked a direction and just went conquering

>Turko-Mongol

What does that even mean?

Turkish and Mongolian?

The fuck kind of revisionist bullshit lumps those two people together?

>>2637826
>Turkish and Mongolian?

Turkic, you stupid nigger.

>The fuck kind of revisionist bullshit lumps those two people together?

Similar culture and traditions.

>>2637839

Turkic is a linguistic term for a family of languages that spans dozens of unique central asian cultures from anatolia to china, so please explain to this stupid nigger how people from Turkey are culturally similar to Uzbeks to Uighurs or to Mongolians?

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>>2636388
>>Attila
>Xiongnu
>He actually believes this meme

>>2623066
Yes I also play mount and blade warband

>>2623131
>cockblocking
>what is fighting Germans when they were leading a crusade against the ottomans

>>2637866
I dunno, you go ask them. Turks are always WE WUZING about this shit non-stop, so it must be important to them.

>>2636388
>Timur.
>Mongol.
Timur was a Turco-Mongol. His tribe- the Barlas- was a mix of the two.

In addition, unlike the Mongols, he saw himself as a Muslim Conqueror as opposed to some Khan. He sought to emulate what Genghis Khan did, but with Islam this time.

>>2637892

So this board is more retard tier today than usual....nice

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>>2621824
>timor
>literally who?

you don't belong here please leave.

>>2635585
Turks are anime