>The birthplace of both Roman Empire and European Renaissance

>>2621091
Geography.

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>>2621091
>European Renaissance
The "first renaissance" happened in France. The 12th century started in Northern Europe. The Quattrocento is overrated.

>>2621091
I love this modern fixation on having actual explanations for things. Like, "there must be some series of specific but generalizable causes for every event" or "clearly, it was the concentration of X in that area and the fact that Y happened".
What if it's just luck? What if the whole reason why rome developed was because at a certain point during a battle in the first latin wars, a soldier from an enemy army tripped over and caused his formation to break up, thus setting rome on a streak of victories?
What if we were to replicate those conditions that rome grew in and like 99% of the times the simulation would turn up complete shit because that soldier never tripped on his feet?

>>2621109
t. nordcuck

Superior aryan genes.

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>>2621112
I don't know looking in my history it were the Nords who did the cucking in Italy.

>>2621109
If the Carolingian Resistance was so great why did they need to have an Italian one?

>>2621150
Cause there were multiple renaissances? Also the Carolingian renassice is the reason your post doesn't look like this:
>>2621150
IftheCarolingianResistancewassogreatwhydidtheyneed tohaveanItalianone

>>2621109
>The 12th century started in Northern Europe.

Pretty sure it started at the International Date Line.

>>2621091
Maybe because Italy was not really a country before 1861. Roman empire and Florence city-state are not equal to modern Italy.

>>2621110
THIS

As well as this board's obsession with ethnicity, this needs to stop.

>>2621460
italian language was developed around 1300, and during the western schism pepole were shouting
>we want him (the pope) roman, or at least italian
not a country through and through before that date, but definitely a nation

>>2621460
>but x wasn't a country back then
You know what OP meant. It's not like that geographic area was inhabitated by an entirely different people. They are as different as time can make them be.

>>2621110
Because that's clearly not true.

Whilst the other Italians were using sperg tactics, Romans were using the phalanx. When the phalanx became obsolete in the face of fast moving missile troops, they adopted the maniple.

Nothing was left to chance. The better question is why Rome was so thoughtful but the other Italians not as much.

>>2621491
They may not an entire different people or race, but they really don't share the same national or cultural characters as ancient Romans, the good-old Romans are long gone.

Modern Italy(19th century ~ present) is not really too based, especially in WW2.

>>2621508

Everyone was using the phalanx.

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>>2621460
>>2621513
Reminder that north and central Italy is on the level of Germanic countries. Terronia is shit because it could never industrialize and because of being cucked by foreign powers.