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How successful would the Wehrmacht have been in WWII had Hitler

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How successful would the Wehrmacht have been in WWII had Hitler decided to delegate grand strategy entirely to his most qualified and talented generals? Without Hitler's interference, could they have made the meme come alive?
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Win or lose. It wasn't all Hitler's fault. If Japan had attack USSR instead of USA, if Mussolini hadn't been captured or decided to attack Greece then the war would've taken a different route.
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>>2619833
Please don't use terms that you don't understand, OP. Grand strategy, deciding what the state does or does not strive for, assigning objectives and determining how much of a cost they're worth, is pretty much by definition the job of the chief executive, not the generals.
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>>2619840
Germany would still lose.
America's involvement on the side of the allies was inevitable.

I doubt the Japanese, already embroiled in war with China, would be able to do much to the Soviet Union, aside from the musings of a particular Russian coward.
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>>2619854
Yes, but they needed a reason to side with the allies. If Japan hadn't attacked Pearl Harbor then they would have remained neutral.
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>>2619874
Not him, but you're retarded. By the time Japan attacked Pearl Harbor, the U.S. was funneling war supplies to all of the 'active' Allies, fighting an undeclared war against the U-boats in the Atlantic, embargoed Japan's oil, persuaded the Dutch government-in-exile to do the same, and were actively reinforcing outlying bases in the area like Midway and Pago Pago.
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>le super based hitler's general meme XD
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>>2619874

How long would it be till the U-Boats took a US Supply Ship you moron.
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>>2619904

Saying Hitler's generals were better than HITLER at warfare shouldn't be controversial
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Was Hitler male or female?
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>>2619884
>fighting an undeclared war against the U-boats in the Atlantic

That was World War 1 you dumb fuck
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>>2619986

Can a clitoris be 5 inches long in a flaccid state with a labia as big and droopy as a scrotum containing 1 ball? Can it protrude out in front of the body with a circumference up to the size of a golf ball?
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Can a female have XY chromosomes? His DNA test proved that he did.
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Why is he read as male in every picture, even without a mustache?
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Why is he consistently read as male while some of the boys who posed in pictures with him are mistaken for girls? PLEASE EXPLAIN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Why was his voice so deep if he only had 1 ball?
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>>2619999
No, it was WW2 as well. That's entirely what the Pan-American Security Zone was all about.
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What is phimosis? I heard he had problems with it and I never have.
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>>2619833
>could they have made the meme come alive?
the only plausible way the nazis could have 'won' is by not invading russia, and instead implementing a cold war with russia, and using the threat of russian aggression to reshape europe into something they wanted.
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>>2619833
They could probably have done better, maybe even defeated the USSR... then in 1945, they would have been forced to surrender or get nuked. Probably no amount of grand strategy could have made up for the German failure to get a proper nuclear weapons program going early enough.
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>>2620053
Enjoy your ban, faggot.
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>>2619833
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>>2619884
You forgot invaded Iceland and Greenland and set up based there.
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>>2619986
Not sure, but questioning sexuality and gender is very Jewish, Chaim.
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>>2620293
They also gave 50 destroyers to the UK in return for some bases, or interned a few minor French ships in the Carribbean, and passed on the occasional intelligence; I didn't forget so much as just thought I had enough examples already.
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>>2619833
They lose the war in 1942 as the German economy collapses.

> On 10 October 1939, Britain refused Hitler's offer of peace and on 12 October, France did the same. Colonel-General Franz Halder (Chief of the General Staff of OKH), presented the first plan for Fall Gelb (Case Yellow) on 19 October. This was the pre-war codename of plans for a campaign in the Low Countries: the Aufmarschanweisung N°1, Fall Gelb (Deployment Instruction No. 1, Case Yellow). Halder's plan has been compared to the Schlieffen Plan, the name given to the German strategy of 1914 in the First World War.[23] It was similar in that both plans entailed an advance through the middle of Belgium. Aufmarschanweisung N°1 envisioned a frontal attack, sacrificing a projected half million German soldiers to attain the limited goal of throwing the Allies back to the River Somme. Germany's strength for 1940 would then be spent; only in 1942 could the main attack against France begin.[24] When Hitler raised objections to the plan and instead advocated for a decisive armoured breakthrough as had happened in the invasion of Poland, Halder and Brauchitsch attempted to dissuade him, arguing that while the fast-moving mechanised tactics were all well and good against a "shoddy" Eastern European army, they would not work against a first-rate military like the French.[25]
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>>2619874
They never were neutral, they supplied the allies with a fuckton of materiel.
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>>2619833
Germany could never have won World War 2. Failing to invade Britain (which was impossible anyway) guaranteed that the war was over.

The only way the Axis could have won was in a quick war lasting a couple years. However, there was no possible way for them to achieve this, so therefore there was no way for them to win.
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>>2619833
Had Hitler delegated Grand Strategy to his generals, the invasion of Poland never would have happened.
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They would have sat on their hands on 1940 and wait for the French to memestomp them in 1942.
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I remember seeing an image of Nazi Germany's chain of command and it was a total shit storm.

>muh ancient Prussian chain of command

Comparatively, the American's chain of command was clean and clear and allowed for even relatively low ranking officers to make big decisions.
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>>2619833
Germany lost the moment they invaded Poland
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