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>Despite being the son of a prestigious family, financially speaking, he had to start from scratch
>Shrewd politician
>Shrewd general
>His subordinates loved him and followed him around fanatically
>Conquered barbarians left and right
>declined a fucking Triumph
>Literally saved France from being Germans (yikes) by fending off German settlers heading to Gallic lands
>First Roman General to cross the Rhine
>First Roman General to cross the English Channel
>First Roman General to reach Britain
>Defeated Pompey, a living legend that Romans literally compared to Alexander the Great
>So badass sixty senators teamed up to kill him
>So badass sixty people had to stab him thirty-three times to make sure he's dead
>he cuckolded most of them back when he was a consul by the way
>Romans began to deify him as soon as he died
>Roman emperors proudly called themselves "Caesar"
>His family name literally became the word used for "king" in many languages (Caesar, Kaiser, Tzar, Kaysar, et cetera)
>Has a surgical procedure for labouring newborns named after him
>Has a salad named after him
>People name their pets after him
>Still remembered as a fucking legend 2050 years after his death


Julius Caesar is literally the most alpha /his/ figure and no one comes even close.
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*impregnates your daughter*
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but the salad isnt named after him

also yes he is the most alpha
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I agree with everything except the salad thing. The Caesar salad is named after Caesar Cardini, an Italian immigrant in America who created it.
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>>2618376
>Literally saved France from being Germans (yikes) by fending off German settlers heading to Gallic lands
In retrospect, Caesar did a lot of good for France and he should be considered the spiritual father of France.
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>>2618376
IT'S NOT FAIR
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>>2618376
>Has a surgical procedure for labouring newborns named after him

I thought this one was debunked because his mother survived his birth?

Othwerise yes, Caesar is pretty based.
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>>2618376
>prestigious family, financially speaking

the Julii had fallen from prominence long before Caesar. They werent very wealthy at all, comparitively speaking.

But yeah,dude was as close to a god as anyone Ive ever read about.
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>>2618464
>>2618482
You can kind of say that the salad is named after him since Caeser is a common name now because of him.
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>>2618494
>I thought this one was debunked because his mother survived his birth?

Why would that debunk it?
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>>2618376
Complete overrated cunt, he wrote a lot about how great he was, though he WAS GREAT, comparing him to Napoleon or Alexander is wrong. Rome died when he crossed the Rubicon with his legions and wasn't killed by his men, that was sacrilege. Not that he brought Rome down, it was already dead when he crossed.
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>>2618376
>>declined a fucking Triumph

To be fair, that was necessary, they were trying to cock-block his candidacy for Consul -- he'd have to enter Rome to register his candidacy, but if he entered the city he'd sacrifice his imperium, and without imperium, he could not celebrate a triumph.

>First Roman General to cross the English Channel
>First Roman General to reach Britain

Literally the same thing

>Defeated Pompey, a living legend that Romans literally compared to Alexander the Great

But it seems to have been a falacious comparison -- Pompey shown as an organizer and administrator -- his military record is spotty at best.

>>His family name literally became the word used for "king" in many languages (Caesar, Kaiser, Tzar, Kaysar, et cetera)

His family name was Julius, but yeah, Caesar was pretty specific to the family up until later emperors co-opted it.

>Has a salad named after him

Salad is named after a Casino hotel in Las Vegas. Which was named after the more widespread use of "Caesar" as denoting a Roman Emperor. Which was, three steps removed, sort of like being named after him.

>Julius Caesar is literally the most alpha /his/ figure and no one comes even close.

Certainly belongs on anybody's Top 10 list.
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He was just another Sulla or Pompey.

The real genius was Augustus, and it is because of Augustus that Cæsar is famous.
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>>2618494
That still seems to be where the name came from -- the legend that he was born that way.
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>>2618495
>Comparatively speaking

Compared to whom? They were very rich compared to the head-count masses, but not among the super-rich at the top of Roman society until GJC fixed that.

But Caesar's father had been Praetor and Proconsul of Asia, which indicates some wealth (presumably for association with Marius.)
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>>2618534
>Salad is named after a Casino hotel in Las Vegas.

I stand corrected, the anon who posted about the chef is correct.
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>>2618559
>But Caesar's father had been Praetor and Proconsul of Asia, which indicates some wealth (presumably for association with Marius.)

Sulla confiscated the entire wealth of the Julii for being related to Marius.
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>>2618495
>Cyrus
>Alexander
>Caesar
>Genghis
>Napoleon

No one comes close to these guys in all round excellence.

Sure, you have the ibn al-Walids and Subutais of the world, but they never went beyond the battlefield.
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>>2618532
The fact that he could inspire such loyalty amongst his legions speaks volumes about him. Rarely did his men ever complain and even when they did just the sight of him being disappointed in them made them beg him to let them fight for him again.
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>>2618376
>Brought about the end of the Republic.
I'm glad he got stabbed to death. I hope he died screaming in agony.
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>>2618536
Literally the other way around.

Octavian banked on nothing but being the son of the great Caesar. No adoption, no clout, no loyalty of Caesar's legions.

No one even paid Octavian any mind. Everyone thought Antony would be the great one to succeed Caesar.
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>>2618751
I am pretty sure that's abuse of charisma or whatever.
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>>2618762
The republic at the time of Caesar was already worthless
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>>2618523
Back then women wouldn't survive c-sections.
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>>2618731
Gustavus Adolphus and his O.G. Axel Oxenstierna
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>>2618777
Firstly, nice trips.

Secondly, yes. The legend got debunked but his name was already the norm for c-sections.
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>>2618762
Nope. Pic related brought about the end of the Republic.

https://youtu.be/GOlgZo5e7gI

>this scene still gives me a hard on
>mfw Cicero's look of resigned cuckoldry
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>>2618376
>did horrible shit and by the measure of most peoples morals was a completely horrible person
>lets praise him he's alpha!

This is why hummanity sucks anon, because of this mindset, because of your mindset. He literally genocided an entire tribe for shits and giggles, he should not be admired at all.

He and people like him are the only ones that merit being taken out back and shot.

We should learn from these psychopaths only as much as we need to destroy them.

>inb4 betacuck iz mad

Stop hiding behind memes you pansy.
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>>2618795
>HAHA let me just use my adoptive father's legacy, money, and legions to conquer a broken state where all capable enemies are already killed by or fled my uncle (adoptive daddy)
Years later:
>Gets pwned by Germanics, which his uncle killed like fucking flies.
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Wasn't it because his name is derived from a latin verb that means "to cut?"
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>>2618800
Your cuck nu-male attitude does deserve those dub dubs.
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>>2618809
Not even a librul, faggot, try again.
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>>2618800
History is a marble carved by tyrants and benevolent liars, not nice guys and womyn.
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>>2618800
t. Mad betacuck
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>>2618800
>>2618809
So are you mad because he was violent and megalomaniacal?

Because
>He and people like him are the only ones that merit being taken out back and shot.
sound pretty violent and megalomaniacal.

The irony aside, you're still a cuck.
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>>2618800
>gives a moral lecture
>on 4chan

People come here to unleash their inner-demons. If you think anyone acts IRL the way they act on 4chan then you're a two-digit-IQ guy.
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>>2618809
>>2618818
>>2618824
ITT top memers
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>>2618800
Dude, I agree that he's a monstrous piece of shit, but even I have to admit I respect the man for his impressive achievements.
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>>2618830
>sound pretty violent and megalomaniacal.
Well we can't reform them and left to their own devices they engage in despicable acts and generally make the world a horrible place. What alternative is there?
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>>2618376
I couldn´t agree more, fuckin´empire slowly went to shit soon after with just a few exceptions.(Augustus, Trajan, etc).
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>>2618837
>I respect the man
That's your mistake, psychopaths deserve no respect or praise only analysis.
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>>2618841
So he started a downward spiral?
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>>2618841
>Dat apostrophe

That shit apostrophe makes me gnash my teeth whenever I see it. I know that from a grammatical standpoint that's the proper apostrophe and not this one

'
but my brain just can't get used to skimming through it while reading text.
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>>2618848
>ruins a fun times with his moral preaching
That's why people don't invite you to parties
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>>2618862
Stop having fun over peoples corpses you fuck.
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>>2618854
Rome was on a downward spiral ever since the end of the Second Punic War. Sure, they continued to conquer and expand their influence, but the Roman spirit and classical ideas of being the citizen-soldier-farmer gave way to cults of personality and the growing middle class.
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>>2618848
You are one seriously spooked little man.
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>>2618841
I would blame the corrupt nobility and echelons of the Empire for the downfall of Rome. There were plenty of Emperors who were good or decent like Severus Alexander but then they just end up getting killed by people like Maximinus Thrax or by the Praetorian guard. There are also plagues and other stuff like bad winters outside of anyone's control which killed a good chunk of the empires populations and emperors like Claudius Gothicus.
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>>2618854
The senate did after they decided granting the title of emperor to individuals with terrible leadership.
(Tiberius, Caligula, Nero, etc). Fuckin´Praetorian guard put Caligula´s uncle in power, granted he was ok, but the slim oportunnity the senate had to return to a republic vanished completely.
>>2618855
I can´t see why.
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>>2618882
I agree, many factors influenced the slow fall of Rome. It angers me to think about it.
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>>2618855
No, this is a proper apostrophe.


It’s

` is an accent.
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>>2618881
>not wanting to end thousands of lives
>having normal human empathy
>not seeking to put everyone under my thumb
>This means you're spooked

well, yeah...I guess. Was that supposed to be an insult?
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>>2618841
more like Rome was going down the shitter already and it took a combination of 2 truly great men to breathe life back into it
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>>2618901
>Taking stirnerposting seriously
WEW
E
W
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>>2618901
>wants to end the lives of anyone who does not fit his worldview

That sounds familiar. I wonder...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Proscription

Oh yeah.
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>>2618901
>not getting bent out of shape about a major historical figure

Stop jerking yourself off to how "righteous" you are, you little turd. Why aren't you out actually making the world a better place if you're such a good man?
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>>2618909
So you don't actually have a point, you're just memeing and shitposting?
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>>2618854
If Augustus or the Julio-Claudians were better at pumping out kids I think Rome would have been a lot more stable.
Once anybody can be made Emperor all kinds of plots and generally destabilizing events can start happening.
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>>2618773
>abuse of charisma
what does that even mean? Some sort of IRL hax?
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>>2618917
Not the dude you replied before, but yes. Stirnerposting is just a meme. Don´t give them the (you)s´
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>>2618917
That wasn't me and I was making fun of you.
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>>2618913
>who does not fit his worldview
No no no, psycopaths/sociopaths specifically, it isn't because they don't fit with me it's because we don't fit with them. We are playthings to them, pawns and lab rats, not people.
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>>2618919
>be alpha
>can't breed

nice
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>>2618906
This desu.

Rome would've ceased to exist far sooner if it wasn't for the adrenaline shot provided by Caesar and Augustus. Staunch, traditional Republicans like Cicero and Cato sure as hell weren't going to do it.
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>>2618932
This is actually true.
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>>2618931
>I was making fun of you
By memeing? Oh...well ouch I'm hurt anon. Mission accomplished, you are definitely the king of memes. Sure showed me, meme king
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>>2618487
>spiritual father of France
Martial you mean
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>>2618800
Thism, this, THIS.

>muh gloious mass murderers


FUCK OFF, Newtown, Einstein, Da Vinci, Archimedes, Tesla, Euler, those are the figures we should be inspired by, hard working, honest intellectuals who shaped our would in a good way without inflicting immense amount of pain unto others only to appease their overgrown egos.
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>>2618919
Tiberius was literally the bottom of the barrel. Augustus desperately looked for anyone but him.

The 2 kids Augustus had handpicked and groomed to succeed him both died suddenly to illness and infection from a wound. And then Germanicus goes and dies randomly too.

The kids weren't the problem. The random deaths taking all the good one and leaving the dregs was.
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>>2618954
I really don't need to do more than that, because you're currently engaging in an autistic flail over the fact one of the most respected and capable men in history is respected for his capability and resulting influence on history. What great things have you done that will shape history? Why aren't you out making the world a better place?
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>>2618958
>reddit the post

Don't you have some oatmeal comics to read?
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>>2618965
I don't know what oatmeal is
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>>2618968
>You really think people would do that, just go on the Internet and tell lies?
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>>2618962
>respected for his capability and resulting influence on history
His influence in history is a direct result of his body count and his ability to lead men to increment that number and nothing more. Every one of his accomplishments was built on human suffering and it ultimately lead to greater suffering all for the sake of his own narcissistic tendencies,

>What great things have you done that will shape history?

I'm working on it anon but I keep coming back to my social interaction simulator.
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>>2618978
>His influence in history is a direct result of his body count and his ability to lead men to increment that number and nothing more. Every one of his accomplishments was built on human suffering and it ultimately lead to greater suffering all for the sake of his own narcissistic tendencies,

Ok, and what makes that any less impressive? Also you're overlooking the role capable leadership and political acumen played in his ascent.

>I'm working on it anon but I keep coming back to my social interaction simulator.

Talk.

You also conveniently ignored the second question. You're sitting here, preaching to a history board for respecting a major figure of history, rather than actually doing some fucking good in the world. There are people suffering right now, and your efforts could prevent it.
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>>2618898
Why the fuck is the Caribbean, Mexico, Columbia, Québec, South Africa, and South Japan added to the Roman demesne?
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>>2618996
>Ok, and what makes that any less impressive?

If you want to be a moral relativist about it then objectively absolutely nothing. If you want to be a man of principle and moral, then its a lot less impressive. Unless you think murder. mayhem, theft and rape are great as long as you're stronger or have some other kind of weird moral compass.

>You're sitting here, preaching to a history board for respecting a major figure of history
Stop respecting psychopathic murderers asshole.

>Also you're overlooking the role capable leadership and political acumen played in his ascent.
No I'm not.

>Talk.
Sure is.

>You also conveniently ignored the second question.
I volunteer at my church and their food bank on weekends, is that better?
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>>2618800
YOU HAVE TO GO BACK
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>>2619012
Fictional map.
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>>2618489
He was a consul of Rome
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>>2618973
I don't know what the fuck it is, I heard that word on fit but never bothered to check, now I've discovered it's some weird kind of cereal I remember hearing about in American cartoons but never tried in my life, I don't know if they even sell those things in my country
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>>2618376
Napoleon is superior.

Queen Victoria trumps them all
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>>2618464

and the dressing is named after him, too
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>>2619012
>south japan
It's ceylon you weeaboo turd
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>>2619098
>Napoleon is superior.
Yes, he is. In every sense.
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>>2619098
Queen Victoria was a good monarch but what she did was short of extraordinary considering by her time the Monarchy was already mostly ceremonial.
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>>2619098
At least you can say Caeser and Napoleon rose from the bottom. Victoria on the hand was born with a silver spoon in her mouth. Also she wasn't a general.
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>>2619038
>If you want to be a moral relativist about it then objectively absolutely nothing. If you want to be a man of principle and moral, then its a lot less impressive. Unless you think murder. mayhem, theft and rape are great as long as you're stronger or have some other kind of weird moral compass.

You're making two mistakes. First off I'm a moral nihilist. Second you're assuming that all principles are humanistic.

>Stop respecting psychopathic murderers asshole.

No.

>No I'm not.

Yes you are. Bringing it all down to "hurr lots of people died to make his success possible." Lots of people died under Pol Pot and he isn't considered a success.

>I volunteer at my church and their food bank on weekends, is that better?

No, because talk is cheap and you're not currently doing anything to better the world.
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>>2619150
>Lots of people died under Pol Pot
He didn't win though.
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>>2619076
HE WAS A CONSOLE. OF ROME!
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>>2619150
>First off I'm a moral nihilist.
Potato potato.

>Second you're assuming that all principles are humanistic.
No I'm not, I directly implied I wasn't.

>No.
Jerk.

>Yes you are.
No I'm not.

>Bringing it all down to "hurr lots of people died to make his success possible."
They did tho

>Lots of people died under Pol Pot and he isn't considered a success.
He ultimately lost.

>you're not currently doing anything to better the world.
I'm getting ready to I'm in preparation stages and I know I will follow through because I do every weekend, that counts.
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>>2619182
>Potato potato.
ah, poor choice of words, bring out the old school memes.
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>>2618961
>The random deaths taking all the good one
>random deaths
>post imperator rome
>random
Its all part of the plans of the senate to reacquire power mate.
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>>2619098
>>2619104
He lost tho and got banished to a cuvk Island
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>>2619255
Julius got stabbed
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>>2618898
Shit the Parthians conquered everything.
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>>2618464
It's named after a hotel named after him
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>>2618643
Banter
Did they get it back, and why did one populist hate a populist who came before him
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>>2618958

Did you know people were executed because of Newton?
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>>2619339
Julius realised his vision and got revenge on his killers through Augustus.

It's one of history's ironies - all the great things Caesar did and yet the most impactful was adding the name of some teenager he liked to his will.
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>>2618376
>Literally saved France from being Germans (yikes) by fending off German settlers heading to Gallic lands

This has to be bait. Either that, or /his/ has gone so far ouiaboo it's defeated itself.
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>>2619012
>South Japan
That's Sri Lanka
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>>2620664
Same difference
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>>2618731

I don't see Tamerlane in your list.
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>>2618961

>Dragging Tiberius through the mud

Fuck you. Tiberius killed off rich aristocrats trying to dismantle the stability he worked to maintain. All the shit about Tiberius came from other aristocrats who were pissed off that he'd care hurt their privileged, entitled, scheming selves. The Roman aristocracy was literally the worst thing about Rome from Republic, to Principate, to Dominate, to Byzantine.
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>>2618494
>>2618523
>>2618777
>>2618482
>>2618788
the legend wasn't that Julius Caesar was born from a c-section but one of his ancestors. Caesar was named after the cesarean section, not the other way around.
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>>2619180
kys
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If Caesar wasn't such a beaner name I would name my son Caesar.

And if Gaius couldn't be easily pronounced "gay-ass"
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>>2618376
>a living legend that Romans literally compared to Alexander the Great
Top kek, he compared himself to Alexander, but only sycophants agreed. Pompey wasn't actually all that accomplished militarily speaking, he practically never won a battle without a clear manpower advantage and got thoroughly rekt by plenty of opponents other less famous roman generals ate for breakfast.
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>>2622348
>the legend wasn't that Julius Caesar was born from a c-section but one of his ancestors.

Yeah

>Caesar was named after the cesarean section, not the other way around.

No. Caesar means "good head of hair," earned by some ancestor, a connotation that came to irk the balding Caesar in later life.
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>>2622414
>Gaius

Use "Caius."
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>>2619012

Somebody took Thor Heyerdahl seriously.
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>>2618376
dont forget the delicious beverage named after him
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>>2618961
Tiberius is a fascinating guy, more complex than you seem to give him credit for.

As Augustus's workhorse for many years, and a man who had the negative consequences of the Principate brought home to him pretty strongly (see, for example, Vipsania), he was a guy who seemed generally and genuinely uncomfortable with weilding extreme power -- hence his difficulties in dealing with the Senate as Princips, when he tried not to throw his weight around and then got irritated when the Senate did not do what he wanted. He stuck with his role in the system largely, I believe, through loyalty to his "father," and duty to the state.

Warts and all, the first part of his Principate seemed to go pretty well, though as he got old and less in control of himself, it slid off the rails.
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>>2618958
>Einstein
The guy who invented the atomic bomb?
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>>2622474
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>>2618482
I though it was because it was first served in Caeser's Palace in Las Vegas?
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>>2622797
Caeser salad is actually mexican and is spelled Cesar.
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Caesar is one of the most alpha males to ever exist. Very few people compare.

There are a couple of people just in Rome's history who probably would be comparable if not for their circumstances, like majorian or Heraclius
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>>2618769
You are just proving my point. Octavian had basically nothing, and was very young, yet he outmaneuvered his experienced seniors and grabbed power for himself.

When he became the strongest man in Rome, like Cæsar, Pompey and Sulla before him. He made himself, not just a dictator, but reinvented imperator, and created the empire from the rubble of the republic.
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>>2622979
Without Augustus the republic probably would've collapsed, a state can only suffer through civil war for so long.
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>>2619475
Nice one
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>>2618376
>Has a salad named after him
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>>2618376
Why are his legs so furry? Why are his legs so short?

Is that a mountain of fish in the background?
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>>2619076
He was, uniquely, "elected" as sole consul -- which maybe shows that the supposedly traditionalist supposed Republicans were maybe not as politically pure as sympathetic historians would have us think.
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>>2619619
Marius was,more or less,Popularis, as was Caesar. Sulla decidedly was not.
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>>2624456
>Posting on /his/
>Not knowing the legend of Caesar's deformed legs, and the "mountain of fish" that the gods sent to cure him.
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>>2625216
DOUBT, but it sounds so reasonable.
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>>2618762
But Sulla died as a bloated and diseased old man.
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>>2618532
Sulla already killed Rome
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>>2625292
In what possible way? Sulla made a heroic but flawed effort to restore the Republic -- to make sure that no man would ever be able, or compelled, to do what he had done.
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>>2618376
>War criminal
>Based

Pick one
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Genghis Khan
>Was abandoned by his tribe
>Beat technologically superior enemies
>Didn't get assassinated like an idiot
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>>2618376
>>Defeated Pompey, a living legend that Romans literally compared to Alexander the Great
I like Historia Civilis too
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https://youtu.be/hZZD4nc08uc
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>>2618376
Et cetera is not a title.
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>>2618376
>>Literally saved France from being Germans (yikes)
They were equally barbaric, what are you getting at, frog? Also, when is it implied Caesar gave a shit about their well being?
>Despite being the son of a prestigious family, financially speaking, he had to start from scratch
Somewhat, but he didn't start at the complete bottom like Genghis Khan for example, he still had plenty of opportunities and his life wasn't at stake that much. Sulla left him off the hook rather lightly, even though he could've completely ruined him had he really wanted to.
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>>2622979
Disagree, had Caeser not named Octavian his successor and adopted son, Octavian likely wouldn't have been able to garner support from the plebs or the legions. Caesers name carried weight in the army and on the streets.
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>>2618800
>People who kill other people are bad!
>So let's respond by killing them!
Hmmm...........
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>>2618800
You're not a beta, you're a pussy. On top of that, presumptuous, arrogant.
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>>2619475
Kek'd.

Especially funny since its hard to get anywhere at all with them.
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>>2618800
I sorta agree with you, but still, you just made yourself to be a sensitive beta liberal faggot.

>>2618818
This guy gets it better.
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>>2618376
>>Defeated Pompey, a living legend that Romans literally compared to Alexander the Great
A meme that Pompey created, usually through stealing all the glory.
There is a reason why Crassus decided to rush finishing of campaign against Spartacus when he learned Pompey is coming.
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>>2626501
It's true, even Seneca had this to say about him in De Brevitate Vitae (XIII),

>"...does it serve any useful purpose to know that Pompey was the first to exhibit the slaughter of eighteen elephants in the Circus, pitting criminals against them in a mimic battle? He, a leader of the state and one who, according to report, was conspicuous among the leaders of old for the kindness of his heart, thought it a notable kind of spectacle to kill human beings after a new fashion. Do they fight to the death? That is not enough! Are they torn to pieces? That is not enough! Let them be crushed by animals of monstrous bulk! Better would it be that these things pass into oblivion lest hereafter some all-powerful man should learn them and be jealous of an act that was nowise human. O, what blindness does great prosperity cast upon our minds! When he was casting so many troops of wretched human beings to wild beasts born under a different sky, when he was proclaiming war between creatures so ill matched, when he was shedding so much blood before the eyes of the Roman people, who itself was soon to be forced to shed more. He then believed that he was beyond the power of Nature. But later this same man, betrayed by Alexandrine treachery, offered himself to the dagger of the vilest slave, and then at last discovered what an empty boast his surname was."

Alexandrine treachery is an old-timey way of saying poetic justice, referring to the fact that Pompey was shanked like a bitch almost as soon as he stepped foot in Africa

Though perception is important. The night before the Battle of Pharsalus Caesar was out-manned and out-maneuvered by who was then one of the most celebrated generals in Roman history. The fact that Caesar grabbed his nuts and staged one of history's great military upsets.
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>>2618376
>>His family name literally became the word used for "king" in many languages (Caesar, Kaiser, Tzar, Kaysar, et cetera)
>"king"
Emperor.

Fun fact: Slavic languages derive their word for "king" from Charlemagne (Karl => кopoль, král, król...) in much the same way. He really made an impression.
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>>2626479
>>2626497
>ur right but ur a pussy

Retards.
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>>2618800
>>2618958
>thinking that great men are only driven by their own egos
>thinking that great men don't have a genuine desire to shape the world
>not knowing that war is the locomotive of history
>not understanding the heroic principle
>not understanding that civilisation must be fought for, propagated and defended
>listing scientists as if they are the only net contributors to the human race
>einstein is in the list, ie. the man who shilled for the US atom bomb project
>Newtown

Read Thomas Carlyle and Julius Evola then fuck off
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>>2626716
>literally a mass murderer
>genocided entire tribes without cause
>srsly weren't even remotely hostile
>literally an unjustifiable psychopath
>le great man builder fighting for civ VI

Dumb faggot
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>>2626731
>literally a mass murderer
War, or proscriptions? Moderate in both.
>genocided entire tribes without cause
Germans, who a generation earlier (Cimbri and Teutones) had been a major threat to rome. Was making an example/warning to others
>literally an unjustifiable psychopath
Forgave enemies in senate (except cato), didn't try for monarchy, rewarded his men
>le great man builder fighting for civ VI
Everything after 4 is shit.

>muh armchair psychology
>muh 21st century morality
>muh killing is bad
>muh anachronistic pseudo-moral outrage
>muh let's attack the west's icons
>muh almost certainly a student in his first year of university or a retard
>muh thinking I idealise caesar because I don't condemn him

Go read Life of a Collosus, his Gallic Wars, then ciceros orations.
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>>2618876

the punic wars really were to Rome what the world wars were for the west
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>>2622832

TSEEE-ZARRR
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>>2626755
>War, or proscriptions?
So you have no idea what I'm talking about.

A tribe was migrating into gaul and offered him an alliance in return for letting them settle there, he rejected them and told them to go to germania as a tribe there might need their friendship. They agreed but asked him if he could mediate for them so they weren't attacked as invaders.

Instead Caesar killed them all.

Every last one.

For no reason.

Oh, and he used all the negotiations to move his army closer to them.

So he was going to kill them all the whole time.

He was a psychopath anon. Your hero was fucking nuts.
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>>2627755
You amerifats fucked up the pronunciation
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>>2627796
>trusting a roving pack of Germans to stay true to their word when he's trying to conquer gaul, invade britain, take over rome as dictator, conquer Parthia and so on and so forth. He was playing it like a smart player plays a total war game. He's not gonna let some barbarian shit walk around roman lands and then attack something weak when it suits them, you fucking kill the invaders so they're not a problem anymore. He was clearing the board of potential hotspots before he made his famous moves.

Caesar did nothing wrong.
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>>2627822
Really, that's your justification? Memes and "dey wer germanz"? Fuck off faggot.
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>>2626461
No see, they're killing people for their own benefit, sometimes even mere amusement, we're killing them for humanities benefit. Psychopaths and sociopaths are naturally irredeemably evil and the worst of humanity.
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>>2627856
>We have a nebulous abstracted cause so were rite

Humanists are scum of the earth and worse than psychopaths, responsible for some of the most grotesque tragedies in all history.
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>>2627796
>hurr iron age leaders were ruthless

Typical freud/lacanfag armchair navel gazing + babby's first psychoanalysis. The reddit spacing is typical.
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>>2627876
They were just masquerading as Humanists, they use whatever ideology is convenient to feed their narcissistic tendencies and complete their delusions of godhood. This is a condition that cannot be cured and given the chance they will seek this out at anyone's and everyone's expense.

You need to judge whether that should be an offense worthy of capital punishment or not.
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>>2625671
And he spread his seed far and wide and has a shit ton of descendants, you can't get more alpha than that.
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>>2627882
>iron age leaders were ruthless
Dealing with enemies is one thing but going on a full blown genocidal rampage is quite another.
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>>2627903
>no true humanists

Pretty typical for "man as an ant" scum to brush aside collective responsibility when it's inconvenient and instead resort to individualism whenever members of your ilk screw the pooch.
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>>2627921
>no true humanists
You don't get it. They have no ideology, they use whatever is convenient. Any Humanist or any "-ist" anything that does this shit is a psychopath or sociopath. They being humanist, communist, capitalist or anything is secondary and unrelated.
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>>2627911
>hurr genocide meme

Figures you're the same autist who spams MUH CELTO-GERMANIC HURTRITAGE REMEMBER THE 2000000000000 HELVETTI.

The Celts got everything they deserved. Fuck you.
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>>2627932
>every1 who disagrees wiff me is le sociopath machiavelli may may

leeeeeeeeeel you'll grow up one day anon
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>>2627942
>every1 who disagrees wiff me
haven't called a single person here a sociopath.

>>2627938
>The Celts got everything they deserved
I don't believe they were celts and they didn't do anything, they actually agreed to go ahead and fuck off.
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>>2627956
>My nebulous broad sweeping accusations apply to nobody actually! hahah disregard any argument I might've made

Okay. Armchairs get the rope btw.
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>>2627964
>My nebulous broad sweeping accusations
I've been speaking about caesar you meme spewing retard. I suppose the connection can be made to similar historical figures, but yeah, I've pretty much been calling Caesar a psychopath, several times actually, quite clearly too.
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>>2619475
chortled heartily
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>>2618376
>Despite being the son of a prestigious family, financially speaking, he had to start from scratch
I might be mistaken, but didn't he get a small loan of a million daughters.
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>>2628448
>a million daughters
meant dollars shit
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