>The middle ages begin with the fall of Rome >The middle

>>2618369
>Rome never fell

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>germanics conquered Rome

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>>2618369
Damn. Really makes you think.

>>2618372
rome fell several times

The modern age begins with the fall of third Rome.

>>2618546
But Brazil still exists. . . ?

>the USA and HRE existed at the same time

>>2618546
Paris 1945?

>>2618546
The Incans?

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>>2618546

>>2618369
Depends on the school of thought. Most scholars of Yale persues the idea that the middle ages started around the fall of Rome or the decline of the Roman Empire in the Italian Pen. Which varies from 350-500ad. It is also widely accepted that there is no offical date or single event that started the Middle ages, rather a series of events which began a new era. The same goes for the end of the middle ages and is actually recognized around the black plauge and decline of the Byzantine Empire; from 1350-1400. The significance of the fall of Constantinople indeed begins a new era but the Empire had been in serious threat for over 100 years. When Constantinople fell the Empire had very little resemblance of an Empire at all, the capital falling to the Ottomans really just ended what was once the Byzantine Empire and enabled the final political holdings to be dismantled.

Uhhh fuckin, yeah. The idea that the middle ages ended with the fall of Rome is not far off but rather is overshadowed by advancements in Europe proper, politically, economically, and so on.

>>2618546
Russian Empire?

>>2618546
STANBUL STILL STANDS

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>first King of Rome called Romulus
>first Emperor of Rome called Augustus
>last Emperor of (western) Rome called Romulus Augustulus

>first Emperor ruling from Constantinople called Constantine
>last Emperor ruling from Constantinople called Constantine
What did history mean by this?

>>2619190
Also, both Constantines' mother's were named Helena.

>>2619190
Maybe history means history has been rewritten or at least reduced and simplified to common denominators?

>>2619190
From Frace to tragedy.

Read Hegel

>>2618667
holy shit

>>2619190

augustulus was a mocking title you know

>>2618667

mastodons died out 1000 years AFTER the pyramids of giza were built

>>2619190
Rulers really like naming their kids after past rulers.