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What can /his/ tell me about the Uncontacted peoples

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Uncontacted_peoples
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cool hat
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>>2609208
Redpilled as fuck
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>>2609208
They're usually bunch of primitive savages that want to be left alone.
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>>2609223

If you google earth this island you'll see a shipwreck on the NW coast. All the sailors were murdered by the island inhabitants.
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>>2609223
Don't they have knowledge on metalworking? They are more advanced than abos and niggers.
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>>2609223
is that island big enough for them to survive by simply foraging without them stripping the land bare or do they practice agriculture?
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ishi

This is so sad.
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>>2609255
If they do practice agriculture then it is probably low intensity kind that is not easy to spot from satellite/aerial photos.
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What are the chances that there are uncontacted tribes in Europe?
Maybe somewhere in Russia?
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>>2609223
what's their source for the same community living there untouched for 60 thousand years

objectively speaking that island isn't really in the middle of nowhere. I mean I get that the people who live there are ethnically related to aus abos or some shit, but I don't undersand why any other civilization around there hadn't wiped them out already. and again, 60 thousand years? there's been some sort of migrations since then no matter what, it's just impossible otherwise. I didn't even think anyone left africa by that point. thats just some bs title.

anyway it's so weird too because that island is only 30 miles away from another indian island which has shit like this, it looks pretty decently populated too.
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>>2609208
Why don't they want to be culturally enriched?
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>>2609332

They don't have a clue actually. It's probably closer to 20-30k years.


The Sentinelese are taller than the other Andamanese and their women sometimes have beards and the other Andamanese from the main linguistic group could not understand their language so they probably have many thousands of years of isolation.
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>>2609324

This was a thing 40 years ago.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tt2AYafET68
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>>2609324
I don't know about tribes but there are a bunch of abandoned settlements nobody really knows about.
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>>2609324
In Russia, almost nil. Exploration and surveying in Siberia has been too thorough.
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>>2609345

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BFK3DJ7Kn6s
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>the most intellligent human being who has ever lived could be living among those tribes and they will never contribute to mankind because they'll likely die young and never have any contact with the civilized world
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>>2609324
holy shit
that's a scary thought, I wish it was something that could be true
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>>2609400
Malnutrition, infectious disease and lower standards of education make it unlikely.
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I wonder what would happen if you took one of them and brought them to say Tokyo
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>>2609343
theres some sjw chick at my uni with a mustache
truly human development is going full circle
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>>2609400
Yeah, god forbid they don't use thier intelligence to make some super quantum bomb or deadly virus to wipe out half of civilization.
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>>2609420

Watch meet the natives

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JTYB_-NSbLM
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>>2609431
>implying that world population dropping by 50% would be a bad thing
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>>2609343
>20-30k years
not even that, maybe a couple of thousand years at the absolute very most
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>>2609462

You mean Andamanese in general or the Sentinelese specifically?
The Andamanese are definitely a very old population and look nothing like the Mongoloid Asians.
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>>2609447
Worked out well for the native populations of America. Maybe this guy could do.the whole thing in reverse. Maybe this native population has a severely potent virus that is endemic only to that island and when the outsiders come and take over his island they contract and spread a virus that only his tiny tribe has immunity to due to thousands of years of isolation.
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>>2609216
true that
>live in secluded communities
>attack anyone that isn't part of their "tribe"
>literally like your average /pol/tards that hate "muh globalism" and want the same thing
>around 5000 years behind in technology compared to everyone else
so this is what your average stormweenie would look like in their "perfect habitat"
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>>2609305
>When asked his name, he said: "I have none, because there were no people to name me," meaning that no Yahi had ever spoken his name.
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Why do they all have massive feet
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>>2609539

Ironically, whenever a thread is made about them on /pol/ the consensus is that the /pol/ army should invade them and rape their women to set up a final fortress for the white man.
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>>2609208
They aren't uncontacted, looked below the man retard. He has a metal axe.

All the "uncontacted" tribes are merely avoiding most outside contact but are congnizant that others exist outside of their territory
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>>2609431
They could also cure cancer or become a billionaire to improve the lives of many people.
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>>2609598
Well you know what they say about massive feet.
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>>2609598
Lots of walking, probably barefoot too.
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Behold, you godforsaken savages! I'm modern man - generations of sovereigns and rulers have domesticated me and I'm therefore more dependent than ever on a system that solely thinks of me as a production factor, disregarding my bodily needs, making me sit in front of a screen eight hours a day to complete mundane and repetitive tasks.

My generation is more educated than any other generation before it; to keep this over-sophisticated modern world running for our masters we need to learn more and more about less and less, making us completely incompetent to do anything ourselves we're not trained to do.

Soon, thanks to advances in division of labor, intercommunication and artificial intelligence, we won't even need to make your own decisions and form our own opinions without depending on other people for that anymore. How convenient! I love my oppression, I adore the technology that undoes my capacity to think! Freedom is slavery!
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How much incest do you think goes on here? Like do you think mothers educate their sons and fathers their daughters?
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>>2609649
Duh, incest taboos are universal except amongst the elite of civilizations and those with very low populations
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>>2609646
Jesus fucking christ that photo
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>>2609646
an acute piece of insight for sure, but was it really so different before modern technology? at least the production factor part, not increasing automation
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>>2609689
Maybe I'm just fucking stupid but I'd imagine working as a crofter would allow you to develop a wider interest in things because you wouldn't be thinking about a highly technical, specific, ever changing field all the time.
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>>2609649
Yea child abuse is very common in these primitive cultures.
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>>2609649
Not the same area, but just over in Papa New Guinea you have this:

The Etoro, or Edolo, are a tribe and ethnic group of Papua New Guinea. Their territory comprises the southern slopes of Mt. Sisa, along the southern edge of the central mountain range of New Guinea, near the Papuan Plateau. They are well known among anthropologists because of ritual homosexual acts practised between the young boys and men of the tribe. The Etoro believe that young boys must ingest the semen of their elders daily from the age of 7 until they turn 17 to achieve adult male status and to properly mature and grow strong.

The Etoro believe that they each contain a certain amount of life force, the highest concentrations of which are contained in semen. This life force passes to others through sexual relations. Women are seen to waste the life force if they do not get pregnant after sexual intercourse. As people get older, and their bodies weaken, this is attributed to a depletion of their life force.
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>>2609689

I think it is more rewarding to solve a diverse range of sophisticated problems and difficult tasks with the help of tribesmen that you personally know and care about, doing activities that keep you fit and healthy and that your physique is constructed for, than living in a large city around people you don't know, working from nine-to-five with replaceable colleagues you're indifferent towards, doing tedious tasks for the taxman and your boss just to earn some pocket money to buy more and more stuff that you really don't need just to fill the void inside your soul.

Or just basically this >>2609695
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>>2609598
Probably soft inbreeding
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>>2609734

Heh, dozens of generations ago some tribal chief had to come up with some spiritual justification for his homosex urges and it became a meme. Circumcision is hardly any better and is still practiced in the Western World.
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>>2609255
>>2609321

They breed pigs and probably cultivate various vegetables / fruits.
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>>2609437
>filed teeth

Isn't it creepy AF that cannibals the world over file their teeth?
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>>2609646
How do you propose creating a complex civilization without regarding each individual as an atomic part of it with only use for production?

>inb4 but building a large civilization is not necessarily a bad thing
It surely is better than living in mudhuts and dying are 30 from infection caused by some stupid cut.
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>>2609223

Garbage, do some DNA study and I will believe it. We are talking centuries not thousands of years let alone 60,000. There aren't enough of them to not become horribly inbred and infertile within 5 or 6 generations.
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This is going to sound /pol/ish, but if they're still uncontacted in the 21st century, it's probably because they're violent cannibals.

>missionary comes
>gets eaten
>anthropologist comes
>gets eaten
>logging company comes
>gets eaten
>"Why are they uncontacted?"
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>>2609999

They would literally all die to modern diseases though if there was contact. Every single one.

>anthropologist comes
>gets welcomed warmly
>more outside people come and sneeze at them
>they all die and we never hear or talk about them
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>>2609999
Nah, they just shoot arrows at everything and the Indian government basically told everyone to fuck off and stop visiting that island.

What probably happened is some fisherman or whatever fucked with them several hundred years ago, and since they haven't had any contact with the outside world other than shooting arrows at them, they just assume that the rest of the human race is the same dickheads who were giving them problems back during like Elizabethan times.
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Here's thought send drones with cameras.
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Talk as much shit as you want about those "savages" but I'd bet money they live far happier and more fulfilling lives than you guys do. Having computers and flying machines doesn't make us happy. The vast majority of people living in the "globalized" world suffer immensely because of it. Even in countries like the U.S., where we supposedly reap the rewards of globalization and modernization, you have millions of people suffering from depression and other psychiatric conditions.

Living in close proximity with people you love and care about without having to worry about bullshit like "mortgage payments" or "getting promoted" is a far healthier lifestyle. Read books like "Don't sleep there are snakes" to get a glimpse at one such "savage" group.


>>2609406

Actually the more research that is being done on these groups is proving quite the opposite. The Satere-Mawe tribe (the savages who put hands in woven gloves of bullet ants) regularly live into their 80s.
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>>2610050

This anon gets it. Here's a (You).
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>>2609839
Circumcisions both of foreskin and labia/clitoris are in many nations throughout Africa (where both practices come from) is rooted in balancing percieved androgyny or "tainting" of percieved opposite sex characteristics.

But I mean go on with the "memes" thing since that's the only lense you see the world through
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somebody should civilize those savages
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>>2609208
There are sects of uncontacted Old Believers in Russia who haven't contacted the outside since the 17th century. Many of them still believe the Tsar is in power.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Old_Believers
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>>2609223
i want to go to that island and make them worship me as a white god lmao
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>>2610185

Running away with your cult into the forest is totally different than what OP is talking about.
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>>2610050
>"suffering" from "depression"
spook a spook
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>>2609839
They have no concept of homosexuality.
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>>2610016
I've read somewhere that many of the uncontacted tribes in the Amazon and Brazil are actually the remnants of people who ran away from larger civilizations after the European colonists came over and started fucking them up. It would explain why their quality of life is so shitty and mal-adapted, they were basically city folk that had to start from scratch without much knowledge of the forest.
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>>2609598
Not massive, just splayed, it's how feet develop when not restricted by shoes.
My mom didn't wear shoes for the first five years of her life and she has to go to a specialty store because her feet are too wide from this.
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>>2610050
Savages living to 80 isn't anything special. Generally barring a violent death, or a fatal disease, most people who survive childhood throughout history have lived into their 70's or 80's.
Fatal disease can be a big killer, but with a relatively isolated group, they likely have a developed immunity to most diseases that affect them.
The short lifespan thing is a meme.
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>>2610229
You are correct, check up the archeology of precolumbian amazon and the first testimonies of Orellana's trips to the Amazon. Everyone thought he was full of shit, and was making things up about sophisticated cultures he saw, but archeology is proving that he may have been right the whole time. In part theres been resistence to this idea despite growing evidence of the contrary thanks to ideas of geographic determinism. See Kuhikugu, Marajo and Terra Preta. The book 1491 has a section on this too.

>>2609208
They aren't uncontacted, they went deep to be left alone. Even if they never met a white man or non Indian before, they would know tribes who do or their ancestors did have contact with them. Can't blame them for wanting to be left alone given the turbulent history recently, which was basically an apocalypse so you are looking at a post apocalyptic culture.
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>>2610229

Their quality of life isn't shitty or mal-adapted though....tons of sources support this...

And they aren't city people struggling in the jungle, they are experts at living in their environment. Some of the tribes that have been studied more intensely actually work (as in gather food/resources) far less than we do (some as little as 40-50 hrs a week) and spend the rest of their time socializing and having fun.

The meme that the "savage" existence is short and brutal is just a way for white people to self-masturbate about "muh european exceptionalism". Unless you are one of the chosen few born into the 1%, you are getting hustled.


>>2610259

Considering the life expectancy and average health of those savages running around naked in the jungle exceeds that found in many parts of the world, I'd say yea it is something worth noting. One of the many examples of just how fucked our world has become.
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>>2609321
How did you take this screenshot anon? I can't get Google Maps to be this vivid-looking
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>>2609208
I just want to point out how broad their feet are. our feet are small and narrow in comparison.

They are probably much better platforms for hunting and fighting, at least barefoot
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>>2610840
ITT: Tiny feet no-bow-skills men think they are lords of the earth.
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>>2610050
Get off my board Rousseau
REEEEEEEEEE
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>>2609223
>Quite a few discarded their weapons and gestured to us to throw the fish. The women came out of the shade to watch our antics... A few men came and picked up the fish. They appeared to be gratified, but there did not seem to be much softening to their hostile attitude... They all began shouting some incomprehensible words. We shouted back and gestured to indicate that we wanted to be friends. The tension did not ease. At this moment, a strange thing happened — a woman paired off with a warrior and sat on the sand in a passionate embrace. This act was being repeated by other women, each claiming a warrior for herself, a sort of community mating, as it were. Thus did the militant group diminish. This continued for quite some time and when the tempo of this frenzied dance of desire abated, the couples retired into the shade of the jungle. However, some warriors were still on guard. We got close to the shore and threw some more fish which were immediately retrieved by a few youngsters. It was well past noon and we headed back to the ship...
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>>2610050
>tfw even the noble savages in your book recommendation were willing to lynch someone for a machete because they value life so little and their abject poverty is exploitable
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>>2609447
>implying that world population dropping by 100% would be a bad thing
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>>2611444
>implying that world population dropping by 150% would be a bad thing
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>>2611444
>>2611466
Human extinction when?
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>>2611466
>Implying that a planet without primates would be a bad thing.
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>>2611477
T. Reptilian Shill

>ayyy /hiss/ bross I'm a cool kid like you guisse
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>>2611444
>>2611466
>>2611477
Extinction event confirmed by ebin repeating numbers
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>>2609324
There are small communities cut off from the state like Roma. I don't think there are going to be completely uncontacted white people living in forests if thats what you mean.
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>>2611477
>Implying that a planet without life would be a bad thing
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>>2609655
>incest taboos are universal
wow nice spook, you got it from your time at the university?
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>>2609226

Island should be bathed in VX
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>>2610267
You mean "Marajó." Fucking pleb with no accent keyboard.
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>>2610196
>you will never be worshipped as a divine being by a tribe

feels bad man

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prince_Philip_Movement
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>>2610185
> Many of them still believe the Tsar is in power.
Source pls
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>>2610017
IRRC they sid that recently, and it was downed by arrows.
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>>2609244
they can't even make fire lool
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I can tell you that according to liberals they are non persons so its ok to abort them (termimate their lifes)
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>>2611662
the fishermen deserved it, it's forbidden to fish there but they did it anyways despite warnings.
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>>2609324
Maybe really cut off inbred mountain villages or gipsy camps but otherwise not really. Though I could imagine uncontacted tribes in Siberia.
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>>2610182
with our cocks
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>>2609400
>this is what redditors actually believe
statistically speaking the most intelligent person ever born has a 99% chance of being born to upper middle class wealthy Orthodox Jews in a first World country
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>>2609305
>>2609595
To be fair, he came to really enjoy living with the linguists and other researchers in San Francisco. They all obviously looked down on him a little, but more in a paternalistic way than an overtly racist way. He died too soon.
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>>2611321
That actually sounds similar to behavior observed in chimp communities.
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>>2609244
Supposedly they're stripping metal from the ship that crashed there. It's like if we'd found a wrecked UFO.
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>>2610050
This nigga gets it.
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>>2609208
They're what black people were before whitey civilized them
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>>2609638
massive socks
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>>2610050
>>2610143
>>2616839
wow, no one has ever said this before, you are all such special snowflakes, maybe they should make a movie about this except where humans invade a planet of blue aliens who are the noble savages
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>>2609473
They actually have just a hint of Mongoloid. You can see it in their eyes.
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The vast majority of the "uncontacted" tribes are in fact contacted. Other than the Sentinelese, almost all the known tribes have communicated with loggers or other industrial workers and have even began small-scale trading and working as guides through jungles/forests. Continued separation is due to cultural preference and also biological isolation to protect them from major urban disease.

For those that don't know, the Sentinelese are hostile as fuck because the British fucked it all up. The British strategy back in the day for contacting tribes like this was to simply kidnap the weaker members like children and the elderly, bribe the /fuck/ out of them with toys and luxuries and other cool western shit, then let them run back home with all their cool trinkets and hope they'll be more interested in trading. It had a pretty regular degree of success, but the process went wrong when they tried it with the Sentinelese. They took some children and some elderly folks, but the elderly folks died on the British ship. The Brits decided to give the kids stuff and let them run back anyways, and evidently the shitty little kids told the rest of the tribe that the Brits killed the old people. They've been hostile ever since.
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We can't tell you anything because we don't know about the uncontacted ones.
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>>2609473
>The Andamanese are definitely a very old population
I'm sure they are, but they haven't been isolated for 20,000 years. That is a ridiculously long time.
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>>2610050
>just throw all of your science to the wind nigga
>Who needs that fuckin knowledge and shieeeet man
>Chill with me and all the other niggas in the tribe bruh we got eight bitches spread around the whole tribe
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>>2609244
>metalworking
They live on a tropical island dipshit they wont get access to metal period.
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>>2617151

They use metal tools that they make themselves out of bits of metal that wash up on the island, such as sheets of aluminum from wrecks and cans of coke from tourists.
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>>2616947
Wikipedia said india successfully did peaceful contact
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>>2609208

According to liberals. Uncontacted people are a problem. We all need to be united under one global flag in order to create a Type I civilization.
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>>2609223
>be European
>REFUGEES WELCOME! UGH PLS RAPE MY WIFE AND BEHEAD ME AHMED

>be Glorious Tribal
>defend your race and culture

truly redpilled
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>>2609400
>tfw to intelligent to contribute to society
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>>2616914

Productive post, go kys faggot
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>>2617228
I am being productive by pointing out your unproductive noble savage memeposts
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>>2617243

Not the guy who wrote that, and you're still a faggot
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>Bunch of people discussing a backwater tribe on some island
>There's possibly a bunch of people discussing a backwater race on some planet
Really made me think
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>>2610238
this
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>>2609305
fuck i remember this. could you imagine being the last of your people? shit would be scary
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>>2617814

One is better for stability the other better for running.

We literally made ourselves more physiologically suitable feet for running by wearing footwear.
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>>2615458
But it's not impossible. There was that poo in loo in the middle of some peasant village.
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>>2618361
Ramanujan?
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>>2618474
Yeah.
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>>2610050

actualy most known tribal peoples seem to live a life constrained by scarcity, strict customs, taboos and superstitions and a pretty much constant threat of violence, not to mention constantly worrying about reputation and status, and obsessing with whatever the tribes culture values, be it cattle, gold, weapons, land, fighting, family size or human heads, all stuck within a idiosincratic worldwiew that they live their whole lives in, just going trough patterns, till they get killed or otherwise die

so realy they are just like every other population on the planet
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>>2617814
Second this, I went barefoot as a kid during summer and wore boots in winter. My feet are somewhere in between but I can grip the ground and seem to have much better balance than most. It was well suited to the farm but now that I wear shoes to work it sucks. Trying to find shoes wide enough is impossible so I just wear them until the sides blow out.
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>>2609400
I hate to turn everything into a race/IQ deal, but if these groups have been seperate from the rest of the gene pool for 60,000, there is a good chance they are missing a few marbles
Especially if there wasn't any geneflow into these places while (some of) the rest of the world was adapting to living in agricultural societies
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