That zozzle moment when people consider Montezuma a great aztec

>>2583640
Cuatemoc (his nephew) was briefly king and seemed like a better leader. He certainly understood the Spaniards better.

>>2583640
He was a decent Tlatoani. Under his rule the empire expanded to its maximum extent.

>>2583656
that makes it even worse, he was a fierce leader who conquered a sizable empire and lost it all to about 60 dudes who literally couldn't escape because Cortez burned the boats

>>2583702
The Spaniards had lots of native help, particularly the Tlaxcala.

>>2583640

There were 2 different Montezumas. One is the great one who died long before the spanish arrived, and the one who met the Spanish.

Two different guys with the same name.

Someone give me a basic gestalt on the Aztecs

>>2584783
Filthy mexica deserved everything which they got

>>2583640
What do you lads think about the conquest of new spain?
With how much salt should one take it?

>>2584794
Their language was pretty radical, I wish I knew it

>>2583640
Moctezuma II was actually a wise man according to his actions. He had a period of doubt, where he was analyzing the spanish power as they closed in from the coast, which took a long time. He even proxy-fighted them.
On the light of events like the massacre of Cholula, he decided to let the spanish in without fighting, which was the wisest decision. That way he could preserve some power and keep the capital.

His successor was much more shortsighted and it resulted in the annihilation of Tenochtitlan.

>>2584811
Here are some words if you're interested:

Hueyi Tlatoani: Great Speaker (emperor)
Tzompantli: Skull rack
Ollamaliztli: Ball game
Tlateomatiliztli: Faith
Macehualtin: Commoner
Pipiltin: Noble
Mayeque: Slave
Macuahuitl: Obsidian broadsword used by the aztecs.
Cuachicqueh: "Shorn One" member of the Aztec military elite. Veteran soldiers who performed 20 "great deeds" to achieve the rank.

Some examples of city names were Tenochtitlan, Tlatelolco, Texcoco, Otumpan, Azcapotzalco, Huaxyacac, and Culhuacan

Important leaders: Moctezuma, Itzcoatl, Ahuitzotl, Nezahualcoyotl, Ixtlilxochitl, Maxixcatzin, Tlacaelel.

It's hard to get the pronunciation at first but you get used to it after a while. I wish I could speak the language casually, but I only know important words as they relate to history.

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>>2584811
me too

>>2584811
A lot of Spanish words come from Nahuatl. I'm making a Nahuatl version of my mesoamerican comic and it's an interesting language. Though I wish they developed a writing like the Mayas did. And I wish Maya writing had survived, damn spanish priests ruining everything.

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I'm going to Mexico in December for a week ,plan on checking out some Maya sites.
I forget right now the name of the only one you can still climb.We're going to that one for sure.

>>2585072

What animu is this?

>>2585072

I want to hear a Japanese person pronounce that.

>>2585142
legend of the galactic heroes

>>2585179
kek

>>2585114
Uxmal?

>build your city on a lake
>don't know anything about boats beyond canoes
>get invaded by people who sailed from an ocean away
Hysterical