Why aren't Barbary Corsairs romanticized the same way

>>2582568
Vikings colonized places, discovered America, became elite bodyguards for the Roman emperors...

You should be asking why the Barbary pirates aren't romanticized like the new world pirates are

>>2582575
Corsairs were the elite navy of the Ottoman empire. They had the original bearded captain, barbarossa.

>>2582568
Pirates didn't literally tear a captured woman limb from limb during a crazed breeding frenzy

Not making this up

they're not white

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>>2582652
Some were

>tfw they will never make a movie about Jan Janszoon

>>2582568
there is nothing romantic with BBC

>>2582652
A lot of the famous ones were white.

>>2582726
exactly my point

>>2582652
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jack_Ward

I agree though, ultimately they are just brown muslims. It's why also the Japanese or Southeast Asian pirates aren't romanticised as well.

piracy happened all over the world, the vikings were notable in that they graduated to conquest and colonization and were the first to sail to the new world

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>>2582575
>>2582755
lol snowniggas thinking they discovered America. Try again: http://www.theepochtimes.com/n3/1946376-exclusive-new-evidence-ancient-romans-may-have-made-it-to-oak-island-canada/

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Corsairs are Muslims that liberals can't make excuses for, so they aren't talked about much. Only white people are allowed to be evil.

>>2582772
>the epochtimes
Kek

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>>2582772
Fake news

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>>2582837
>>2582843
Not an argument.

The Romans and Greeks also had longships way before the Vikiganz. I don't see why they couldn't reach the same place by navigating by coast like they did.

>>2582772
Other way around. Americans discovered Europe.
http://www.ibtimes.com/europe-discovered-when-native-americans-shipwrecked-holland-books-claim-698714

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>>2582843

>>2582871
we wuz longboats

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>>2582897
Yes.

>>2582942
no dragon head on the bow would not even consider sailing in it

>>2582942
there is a hell of alot difference betwen a tireme and a nordic longboat, fucking tard

>>2582772
>>2582755

Actually Phoenicians reached the new world first

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Theory_of_Phoenician_discovery_of_the_Americas

>>2582959
So what? It's still the first longship of it's kind. Vikangz didn't invent it. Romans and Byzantines also had more sophisticated longship designs than that one.

>>2582652
/thread

>>2582568
>You will never be a Barbary pirate

Feels bad man

>>2583031
don't let your dreams be dreams

>>2582999
Nordic longboats are more effective

>>2582575
> became elite bodyguards for the Roman emperors

Please give me a source for this. This is my first time hearing this, and it's so badass sounding.

>>2582999
>sophisticated longship designs than that one
could they navigate thro small rivers and on banks?

>>2582568
Because they were even more despicable, somehow.

Also, vikings were the last European pagans. Islam was huge back then, it's an underdog thing.

how the nordics, a people barely numbering 20 million, create so much rage, is beyond me

you guys sure are insecure

>>2583118
royal guard units made up of foreign slaves were all the rage my man

>>2583118
varangian guard

>>2582976
Stop posting those Greco-Egyptians plz. They aren't Latins.

>>2583180
White people think the ancient Greeks and Egyptians were white

>>2583118
He's talking about the Varangian guard, Norse personal bodyguards to the ERE

>>2583208
Maybe not white, but certainly not groid.

>>2583118
It's a meme. They were terrible bodyguards

>>2583304
sauce?

>>2583387
they had a habit of being loyal to the throne and not the emperor himself. if the emperor was murdered by a pretender, they didn't seek revenge on the pretender but instead hailed him as the new emperor

i doubt they were terrible bodyguards though, the emperors still used them for a long time

>>2583139
Balts were the last European pagans. They practiced until the 14th century.

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>>2583398
>they had a habit of being loyal to the throne and not the emperor himself. if the emperor was murdered by a pretender, they didn't seek revenge on the pretender
cheeky bastards, i love my ancestors

>>2583304
At that point wasn't that roman tradition though?

>>2582568
They weren't kings.
They didn't fundamentally alter the Anglo psyche

>>2582568

They are.... by Muslims.

>>2582575
>discovered America
>who are Natives

>>2583170
I love that Harold Hardrada was a Varangian. Campaigning from Mesopotamia to England- what a life, for the 11th century.

>>2584243
I really wish he hadn't been caught off-guard at Stamford Bridge. England would've been better off with Hardraada than William the Bastard as King. At least Norse culture wasn't too different from Anglo-Saxon civilization and the Old English had Viking kings before.

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>>2582575
>"""""roman""""" emperors

>>2584243
They should make a movie about him

>>2582568
They are a bit, at least among people who know about them.

Which no one does.

But they were quite cool.

Your image is literally an example of romantisation of them.

>>2582575
Do muzzles idolize them? That'd make sense.

>>2582884
>http://www.ibtimes.com/europe-discovered-when-native-americans-shipwrecked-holland-books-claim-698714

>The History Channel documentary attempts to turn history on its end by suggesting that the Chinese sailed a junk ship south around the Horn of Africa, then made landfall in America in 1421. The claim is backed during an interview with author and historian Gavin Menzies, who wrote the book 1421: The Year the Chinese Discovered America, and has extensive evidence that he says backs the claim that the Chinese reached America before the Europeans.
>1421
>Chinese reached America before the Europeans
>1421

Thanks, teach

>>2582772
> a reality TV show claims

>>2582942
>>2582871
>>2582999
aside from them both having a similar oval shape, longboats and trireme are completly different. you have to be retarded or trolling if you can't see the difference.
I doubt a roman or greek trireme could be as fast or navigate in as shallow water and rivers as the nords could

Because vikings went on to build the most successful societies in history envied by the entire world.

>>2582568
Because islamic rape culture is still a problem, while vikings are not.

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Vikings are more popular than Barbary Corsairs because they are known as Vikings. Corsairs were still known as Ottomans.
Despite this, the Ottoman pirates still had more of an impact than the Vikings. The pirates worked under the government which gave them more power. This gave them the power to rule over big parts of land, mainly Northern Africa. However their effect was only good for the Ottomans, Europe's hatred for the Corsairs was huge.
This is due to the vast majority of European Navies converting to Islam and becoming pirates. Some examples are Jack Ward, Suleiman Reis, another Suleiman Reis, Simon de Danser. England even created a meme song named 'A Christian Turn'd Turk'. This was on par with the conversion of John Ward.

Another big reason Europe hated the Corsairs was because of the reverse slavery. Here you had dark pirates from Africa and lands of Arabia that enslaved white people from Britain and France.
Both parties do make good use navigation and their passion. Piri Reis was the first to draw a world map and draw the Americas. The Vikings also did similar things. Whether they were the first or not to discover America is not important. The fact that they discovered America afterwards as well is important. Vikings had the dream of entering Valhalla one day whilst the Muslims fought for the sake of Allah.

If I keep up my solid job I will invest in the creation of a TV show about Barbary Corsairs.

>>2586960

>reverse slavery

there is no such thing OP

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Slavery wasn't racially based in ancient times, both whites and blacks could be enslaved.
Racism was even different back then, the greeks saw themselves as superior to even other euros, so did anglos.

Benjamin Franklin fucking hated german niggers ruining america

>>2586973
Yes there was, approximately 1 to 1.25 million white Christians were enslaved by Barbary Pirates. About half of these pirates were black.

>>2582954
>tiny dragonhead depicting average Nordic penis size
or
>turn the entire front of your ship into a mean looking head with angry eyes

>>2586986

I should think he means there is just slavery, "reverse slavery" isn't a thing.

>>2586986

reverse slavery would be someone willingly paying another to be his master

slavery is the forceful removal of freedom to ones self, it have nothing to do with the enslaved or the slaver race

every race was enslaved in some capacity by another at some point of history

>>2586998
>>2587002
I meant black people enslaving white people.

Once, Ibrahim happened to see the private parts of a wild young cow and according to Cantemir, "he sent the shape of them in gold all over the Empire with orders to make enquiries whether a woman made in just that manner could be found for his lust". A woman fitting the description was found in Armenia and she was received into the harem. Her name was Sechir Para ("Sugar Cube") and she weighed around 150 kilograms. Ibrahim became madly infatuated with her.

One day Sechir Para told Ibrahim about a rumour that one of his concubines was "compromised by an outsider", but she didn't know any details, like the girl's name. Ibrahim promptly raged for three days. When his son Mehmed made a joke that Ibrahim didn't like, he took his dagger and thrust it in his little son's face. Mehmed was to carry the resulting scar on his forehead until the end of his life. The chief black eunuch, the most powerful man after the Grand Vezir, tried to find the identity of the concubine by torturing some of the harem girls, but he was not provided with a name. Then Ibrahim decided to have his entire harem of 280 women thrown into the Bosporus, tied up in weighted sacks. Sechir Para and Turhan Hadice were spared. Only one other girl survived, because her sack had not been sufficiently tied up. She was dragged out of the water by the crew of a French ship. Eventually Sultana Kösem became jealous of Sechir Para's influence and one day she invited the woman to dinner and had her strangled. She told the inconsolable Ibrahim that the woman "had died suddenly of a powerful illness".

>>2586986
>Northern Africans are black

I love this meme

>>2586985
>wannabe anglo is not accepted as a true anglo
>chimps out
kek

>>2587009
black people from the middle east were eunuchs lol.
They had their balls cut off and were made body guards.
Western slavery saw them more as agricultural tools

>>2587015
>thiccest girl in the entire ottoman empire
>150kg

I truly pity the man.

>>2582683
>Jan Janszoon
literally Jon, son of Jon
also he's dutch not an arab

>>2583398
>>2583304
Still better than the Praetorians
>ywn kill the emperor you were sworn to protect and sell his throne at a discount

>>2587009

That's just slavery m8. It happened in some capacity but it's not a reverse of anything. Mongols enslaved whites, arabs enslaved whites and whites enslaved other whites.

Pre-industrial societies were in need of slave labor to generate wealth so they devised multiple systems of implementing it. Indentured servitude, serfdom, cast systems etc. Along with the classic enslavement.

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WE WUZ EUNUCHS AND SHIT.

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>>2582568
They kinda are?

In fantasy, if you want your pirates to sound classier, you call them corsairs.

And Corsairs tend to be the blingiest pirates fucking ever.

>>2587009

To add to what this anon >>2587047 said even the word 'slave' itself comes from the word 'Slav'.

http://www.etymonline.com/index.php?term=slave

>>2582894
>meditteranean "europeans" thinking they are the descendants of Romans and Greeks
Go cry somewhere else, turk rapebaby

>We demand you take 3 billion refugees
More like "we have been giving you economic support for 60 years since you are unable to keep an economy on your own, and now it's time for you to do your part as well"

>>2583161
They're trying to make up for their lack of whiteness :^)

>>2582568
Because
>WEE KANGZ

>>2583031
Just go to syria.
ISIS is basically doing the same thing

>>2583031
Anon, let's do this together. Let's become Barbary Pirates. I'm serious about this, I've thought about it for a while.

>>2583515
Yes it's only natural for germanics to not know the meaning of honor.

>>2582942
not a longboat

>>2584662
Nah. They idolise traditional military leaders and their grand conquests.

Khalid ibn Walid, Salahuddin and Mehmet the conqueror are their biggest crushes.

>>2587029
Yes that was most likely his point

>>2587652
Saladin was never popular amongst Muslims compared to Baybars. It was Europeans who idolized him as a worthy foe.

>>2587345
they aren't pirates. desert < sea.

>>2586960
>reverse slavery

this is what a college education does to people now

t.grad

>>2582773
Is this bait? Muslim apologists as a norm sprung up much more recently than pirate or viking pop culture.

>>2589747
This
The Christians said that Saladin was sent from Heaven to fight against the Christians