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So we always hear that the Nazis/fascists were the aggressors

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So we always hear that the Nazis/fascists were the aggressors in places like Weimar Germany and interwar Italy, before they took power, getting in streetbrawls with communists and the like. Is there literally any truth to them being aggressors? If anything it makes sense that communists would begin attacking them. Fascism appealed to nationalism and conservative social policy combined with socialism, while communism had the right economic policy but was insane and neurotic ideologically. Naturally this meant fascists were encroaching on what the communists viewed as their demographical base, and needed to try put down a growing rival.
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>>2570504
and you extrapolated all of this without any reference to the historical literature. all to make the nazis look like the "good guys"
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>>2570504
SA was literally created as a protection squad against aggressive commies who disrupted NS rallies.
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>>2570504
Fascism is an inherently violent and anti rational ideology. It just so happens that the climates that fascist thrive in (economic hardship) is also the climate that communism thrives in and thus the two always come into conflict. In terms of ideological incompatibility, Fascism comes into conflict with just about every other ideology under the sun and therefore is both the instigator or the victim of violence depending on the historical circumstance.
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>>2570538
>Fascism comes into conflict with just about every other ideology

this is the same case with communism dumb dumb
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>>2570544
Not necessarily, Marxist Feminism and Communist Anarchism come to mind as mixed ideologies.
>Inb4 not real ideologies
Neither is Fascism tbqh.
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>>2570564
>fascism can get along with clerical theocracy
>fascism can get along with reactionaries/monarchists

wow, really gets my noggin joggin
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>>2570564

>what is the spanish civil war
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>>2570520
This
Communist and Socialist militias attacked first, Fascists retaliate by using the same tactic
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Make sure people know his eyes were BLUE!!!
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>what is the beer hall putsch

they were violent fucks from the get go
see me after class poltard
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>>2570504
It's another "Hitler was a good guy" thread, presented by /pol/

But to answer your question, they violently tried to take over the German government in 1923.
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>>2570603
>Clerical theocracy
Ideology compatible with religion wow just like every other ideology bar communism.
>Monarchists
A form of government not ideology m8.
Really makes my wits do the splits.
>>2570607
What did you mean by this? That fascists fought along side other ideologies such as conservatives? If so yes they did but systematically suppressed them in the aftermath. Its like how Nazis and Soviets worked together in Poland despite their ideologies being incompatible with one another. Its almost as if a realist approach to the immediate issue takes primacy over long term ideology.
Also it is questionable if Franco wasn't really a fascist so there was more room for cooperation with other ideologies.
(Inb4 muh real ideology has never been tried argument haha)
He was too traditionalist to truly be a revolutionary Fascist in the same was Mussolini and Hitler were. Probably just pandered for international support.

Sry /pol/ but fascism is probably even worse than communism, it certainly has a shorter life span and is fundamentally flawed in its rejection of rationalism.
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>>2570564
>Not necessarily, Marxist Feminism and Communist Anarchism come to mind as mixed ideologies
>See, Communism can get along with Communism, and also Communism.
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