How do Jews and Muslims deal with the fact that the far majority

how can shellfish be real if my eyes cant see them

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>>2565337

>>2565337
wait theyre not allowed to eat seafood?

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>>2565337
If I have a glass of water what portion of that is made of these microscopic shellfish? There's a rule in Judaism that if you are, for example, making a pot of soup and an ant falls in it's still Kosher as long as that ant is less than 1/100 of the soup. One could argue that these shellfish are "accidentally" present in the water that's being drunk.

All that is solved with the miracle of secular judaism

>>2565737
What is secular judaism?

>>2565738
Secular judaism is an identity whereby one does nothing jewish but clings to the title stubbornly.

>>2565736
1/60th, actually, not 1/100th.

>>2565337
That's why God sent down Jesus.

>>2565743
I was going off the top of my head

>>2565736
so are jews prohibited from eating insects or something?

>>2565752
pretty much

i've heard that there are a few kosher species of locust/grasshopper somehow

>>2565337
You are clearly thinking way too far into this.

>>2565714
leviticus 11 states that anything living in water that doesn't have both fins and scales is haram

>>2565752
mostly yes, that's in leviticus 11 as well, but says that there are four species of insects that use jointed legs for hopping that are ok to eat. The writers of the talmud agonized quite a bit on figuring out which four species those were precisely and ended up settling with locusts, katydids, grasshoppers, and crickets.

>>2565337
Show proofs that it's forbidden

>>2565791
I love how people quote leviticus without any context. Unless you are an ancient Israelite wandering through the desert the laws in this book probably don't apply to you.

(Although I wish the one about if you rape a young woman and she is not pledged to be married to someone else, she must then marry you....that would make things a lot easier for me I think)

How big are they?

>>2565807
well leviticus 11 is the basis of most kashrut rules

What the hell does that have to do with Islam? In islam you are allowed to eat everything in water.

>>2565807
That's kinda his point, isn't it?

A lot of the stuff in Leviticus -- basically all of the dietary restrictions and instructions on "cleanliness" and "impurity" etc -- are obviously the ancient equivalents of health codes, couched in spooky language about God and sin so people would actually fucking follow them and not die. They haven't been applicable for centuries or millennia, and so most Christians blissfully ignore them. By and large we don't consider them bad Christians for not following obsolete laws.

But for some reason Jews still stick to a lot of them, as do Muslims with their dietary restrictions and so on. It's silly.

>>2565736
Relgion is truly retarded
How can some people believe this shit comes from the creator of the universe is beyond me

>>2565771
Jews are masters at jewing their own laws. See kosher light switch.

>>2565771
>i've heard that there are a few kosher species of locust/grasshopper somehow
There must be, as John the Baptist was described as eating "grasshoppers and wild honey".

>>2565849
>A lot of the stuff in Leviticus -- basically all of the dietary restrictions and instructions on "cleanliness" and "impurity" etc -- are obviously the ancient equivalents of health codes,

But that's wrong you fucking retard. They're primarily "Look at what these fucks around you are doing, don't be like them, don't socialize with them."

>>2565337
Muslims have no prohibition against shellfish.

>>2565849
>>2565807

The bizarre laws in Leviticus date from the time of the Babylonian Exile. They have one purpose, and one purpose only: To make it difficult for Jews and non-Jews to share a meal. Why would you want to do this? Because socialisation during meal times is the number one source of understanding and tolerance for other views. Why is that bad? Because the Jews were a tiny minority in Babylon, and so highly vulnerable to becoming assimilated. In order that the Jews should continue to exist as a separate race, the leaders at the time came up with the law codes of Leviticus and similar to keep the races apart.

>>2567254
Not either of the guys you were responding to, and while they were probably written in the Babylonian exile, the dietary laws, or at least some of them, probably pre-dated that. Archeologists mostly figure out where Israelite settlements were and the borders between them and their neighbors by looking for an absence of pig bones, which were relatively common in places like Philistine settlements or Edomite ones.

The purpose was almost certainly social exclusion, but the initial target was probably those other Canaanites they were culturally separating from, not Babylonians.

>>2567274
>The purpose was almost certainly social exclusion, but the initial target was probably those other Canaanites they were culturally separating from, not Babylonians.

I agree, there were probably similar laws aimed at the other Canaanite tribes early on, and no doubt these inspired the laws in Leviticus.