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Does anyone else feel like they'd genuinely enjoy being part of a mass movement?

The pageantry and spectacle,the sense of purpose and being part of something greater than yourself, the community, the feeling of invincibility. You look back at these rallys in Germany and Russia and understand why it was so seductive.
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>>2560157
I like the military shit but I hate ceremonies in general
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>>2560157
Why nationalism developed, especially near the end of the medieval ages.
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who needs that

I haven't any personal crisis requiring me to act out
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>>2560157
Join the DSA I guess, socialism is coming back
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>>2560157
Tfw never got to be a red guard in mao's china
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>>2560472

Why would you want to be the fucking idiots that ruined an entire culture and also kill millions of people and countless historical treasures in the process?
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Its called a sports team.
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>>2560526

Even Mao himself disowned the Red Guard in his last years. That says a lot about how out of control the Red Guard was.
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>>2560536
bingo...just become a fan of a winning baseball or football team.
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>>2560638
>winning
>posts a picture of the Cubs
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>>2560650

Were you living under a kidney stone or something?
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>>2560650
Didn't they just win the cup/bowl/trophy
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>>2560526

>Why would you want to be the group that drove bourgeois culture from the mainland, killed millions of oppressors and swept away the old Confucian hierarchy?

FTFY
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>>2560526
nightly orgies after daily ultraviolence
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>>2560690
>>2560692
>>2560472

How does it feel wanting to be part of an episode in Communist China which the government actually LETS you criticize openly in public and the media?
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>>2560734

>How does it feel wanting to be part of an episode in Communist China which the government actually LETS you criticize openly in public and the media?

How does it feel to live in a country where the capitalist class rule is so strong that it is forbidden to even acknowledge the bloodsucking nature of their lives.

And besides, you can criticize in Communist countries. However, the criticism must always reflect the will of the people. There will be no capitalist revisionism disguised as 'criticism', thats all.
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>>2560778

Holy shit you're the first unironic Maoist Red Guard I've ever seen in my life. A literal walking dinosaur. A living fossil.

Can I get your autograph???
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>>2560734
Oh no fuck that I wouldn't
Folks who spoke out at that time got offed not long after
I assume you mean the hundred flowers campaign
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No because I'm not a reject who needs edgy provocative movements to "feel greater than myself".

Half of you monkeys are in it because you can't feel good as yourself, and the other half are doing it for pussy. You can't prove me wrong.
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>>2560157
The appeal of mass movements is half the reason why the Trump campaign strategy boiled down to "Hold rallies and sell hats"
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>>2560797

No after Mao's death and the power shift to moderates. Mao semi-disowned the Cultural Revolution, the head Red Guards were being put to trial, and the government started to allow people to criticize the Cultural Revolution as a harmful thing (can't say the government sucks, but can say the Cul. Rev. itself was bad. Small differences matter between life or execution).

It is one of the few things that the Chinese citizens are allowed to criticize about the government to this day.
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>>2560778
>And besides, you can criticize in Communist countries. However, the criticism must always reflect the will of the people.

As defined by whom?
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>>2560157
Yes and no. I fucking hate all that collectivist bullshit. It sometimes makes me feel almost physically bad. I feel like I'm surrounded by morons when in group-thinking crowds. However, revolutionary "on the barricades" experiences can have a great exalted beauty to them, because they interrupt he everyday consciousness - but the thought of the disgusting low-iq crowd that makes up the bulk of the mass movement shatters even that, since as a student of history one understands the horror such movements often result in. Experiencing the emotion of the mass happening does feel organic sometimes. One touches the divine, as the normally set patterns of society open up and the dignity of being, and of the unknown, emerge. One feels like life has great meaning. The experience is addictive. I think for low-intelligence types (most of humanity) there is even a quasi-sexual thrill in such experiences. Hence fascist erotism, etc. But the rational part of the mind realizes the ugliness of the collective, and rejects it.
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>>2561061
Oops, *organic=orgasmic
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>>2560157
You can still feel that shit at sports games, I know it's a very cheap commercialized substitute but you can feel the energy.
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>he's never been part of a large organized rally or movement
>he's never himself organized an event that brought out thousands of people
>he's never publicly spoken at any length
you might as well just kill yourselves
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>>2560690
China is stil confucian as fuck m8
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>>2560157
isn't this the only reason people like the nazis? Who can look at something like this and not want to be a part of it?
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I think it'd be pretty damn cool. Maybe it will happen again in Germany within our lifetime.
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>>2560157
>Does anyone else feel like they'd genuinely enjoy being part of a mass movement?
>nazi rallies

no way. do you realize how many hours of practice marches they would've had to have done in preparation for these things.
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>>2561027

The people.
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>>2561205
I can. It looks like a bunch of beta dumbasses to me. Children in adult bodies, pathetically submissive to ideas like nation and fuhrer, letting a bunch of psychopaths and weirdoes lead them into national collapse.
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>>2561205
Anyone without severe mental illness.

Half of you monkeys are in it because you can't feel good as yourself, and the other half are doing it for pussy. You can't prove me wrong.
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>>2560157
I think people just want to be a part of something greater. Who doesnt?
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>>2560811

>Shillary did the exact same thing
>lost

Really steams your vegetables
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>>2561367
>>2561390

>tfw you fell for the "edgy nonconformist" meme
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>>2560778
>capitalist class rule is so strong that it is forbidden to even acknowledge the bloodsucking nature of their lives.
Excuse me did I miss the part where you got put in a gulag for shit posting on leftypol? Or do you just mean people give you dirty looks when you say you wanna rob and kill everyone whos more successful than you
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No because im a lonewolf who bows to no man. Ever
EVER.

Im kind of a rebel haha
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Ive marched in a miltary parade. Its not that special, altho with music its kinda nice. You can sync your movement to the music and so does everyone else. In that way its like classical dancing.
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>>2560157
The peasant, the slave, even many generation after he has been liberated, has a peculiar way to get exited at the prospect of binding himself to the will of a master.
I feel sorry for you anon, you are probably just genetically inclined to follow, but you may still fight this with the power of your reason.
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>>2561661
No, it's not a meme. When I see large groups of average (thus, stupid) people performing rituals of obedience toward leader figures and rituals of neo-pagan fascist erotism... it seems very herd-like. It also seems potentially dangerous. I feel that such people might chimp out at any moment and try to seize other people's stuff - as the people in the photo, in fact, did.
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>>2561061
You may actually be the biggest faggot on 4chan
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>>2561698
Well, you just didn't understand what I was trying to say. To be fair, I didn't write it very well.

To summarize my point: times of revolution / mass political change can feel transcendent because the everyday consciousness is broken. But if you study history, you know that mass revolutions usually result in things getting worse.
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>>2561687
>>2561697

t. dumb normie who watched Rick and Morty one time
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>>2561714
I don't even know what Rick and Morty is, although I've seen it referenced before. Well, believe what you want. If you want to trust big crowds of morons, have at it, I guess. As for me, I know what big crowds of morons (and most people are morons) are capable of. No thanks.
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>>2560157
>Does anyone else feel like they'd genuinely enjoy being part of a mass movement?

humans generaly enjoy such things, so yes theres probably a lot of people

personaly i feel like id enjoy being in the small groups behind the scenes that actualy design and run the mass movement, but thats probably just cause im inhibited and shy
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>>2561719

You sir, are a scholar and a gentleman.
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>>2560157
>the sense of purpose and being part of something greater than yourself, the community, the feeling of invincibility
No problem, brother. You can always convert to Islam.
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>>2560157
Of course I feel it OP.

Which is how I can defend myself against it.

>mfw incorporated the Shadow

Feelsgoodman.
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>>2561736
kek
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join army
spend 1 hour standing up
my feet hurt, i am thirsty, the sargeant told me that if i move he will beat me


and then make this thread again
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>>2561799

>join army
>comradeship
>get fit
>get to kill people

Was there a downside?
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>>2561736
That's actually quite true.

Almost all of them are starving for the tiniest moment to reunite and establish an islamic empire/caliphate .
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>>2561719
>As for me, I know what big crowds of morons (and most people are morons) are capable of.
Building civilization?
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>>2561736
lame uniforms
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>>2561655
Hillary Clinton didn't do shit.

When Bernie Sanders came to my part of New England he spoke at a pavilion in Roger Williams park in Providence, with the intention of using that big, wide open space in a centralized, easy to get to spot to draw as many people as he could.

When Hillary Clinton came she went to Central Falls High School, the smallest city (only 1 square mile) in the smallest state, surrounded by one-ways and is completely inaccessible to a large number of people and is a rough area mostly populated by poor Latinos and white trash. A high school auditorium couldn't hold nearly the number of people that Roger Williams park could, but it at least looked like she was packing a house when it's max capacity was only a few hundred people, which was fucking stupid considering that her little computer program picked that spot specifically because it was densely populated.

Bernie crushed her in Rhode Island.

Hillary's campaign strategy boiled down to "cheat your way through the primaries, play it safe in the general, don't say anything bold or risky, let a computer algorithm run your campaign for you"

Bitch deserved to lose. My only consolation is that the current president is in way over his head and has no clue what the fuck he is doing and can't even pass legislation when his party dominates every branch of government.
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>>2562446

>Bernouts

w e w lad
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>>2560157
I don't need the pageantry,but I do feel the need to be part of something greater than myself.
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>>2561661
>muh hugo boss uniforms!!!

Half of you monkeys are in it because you can't feel good as yourself, and the other half are doing it for pussy. You can't prove me wrong.
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>>2562572

>I like, reject the mindless collectivist ideologies of mass society per se?
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I wouldn't want to go because I get massive anxiety in large crowds like that. I don't understand how normalfags go to concerts all huddled together like that. Fuck that shit.
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>>2561655

She didn't have much of a movement. Most Democrat votes were women that wants a female president and those that thought Trump is "uhh, literally Hitler"
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>>2560778
>Forbidden to acknowledge it
>Openly acknowledges it
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>>2562446
>hitler wants us to believe that: stalin is getting too strong, and bolshevism will sweep over europe
Well, he was right about that.
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>>2561655
In what way did she do that? She had much smaller, more conventional campaign events with far less frequency. High School gymnasiums and community centers, stuff like that.
Meanwhile her website did push a variety of tee-shirts, but most of them were design by committee trash with no staying power. The rest were trying to cash in on the meme of the week. She herself would never be seen wearing this merchandise, sticking to a series of monochrome pantsuits. The rest of her strategy was "Stay out of the spotlight, don't answer any press questions, and let the media rip on Trump for me."

In contrast, during the final act of the campaign, Trump was holding four or five rallies a day, generally in stadiums or similarly large capacity areas. He would start into his speech, adding his commentary on the headlines of the day, but the main focus was provoking the audience into screaming catchy, easy to remember slogans that would get them amped up.

"Build a Wall!"
"Lock her up!"
"USA!"

Meanwhile, his merchandise was simple and tested in real time. The most iconic were the red and white MAGA hats, which were immediately successful because Trump himself routinely wore them, and because they had a simple message. Which no context, anyone can understand "Make America Great Again." "Stronger Together," "I'm with Her," "American is already great" and whatever else fail to send a simple and appealing message.
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>>2560167
>conforming to the culture and norms of your community in a mass demonstration
>acting out, like an edgy teen in need of attention

... anon, I...
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>>2560157
Maybe I'm just autistic, but I don't see the appeal. I've never liked crowds.
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>>2560157
>not being a part of the greatest movement of our time
pleb
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>>2563081

>implying I wasn't at 2 rallies
>implying I didn't OC with my MAGA hat
>implying I didn't accidentally straight arm salute Him once
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>>2561799
>Have to be slightly uncomfortable
>This is unbearable for Anon
Wow, you might just be a degenerate fatass
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>>2563092
>accidentally
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>>2560157
It looks cool but in reality all those guys are thinking about how their feet hurt or their eyebrows itch or they wish they could just sit down. I know Ive done parade shit while in the military.
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