>whites are indigenous to Europe >Indo-European expansion

indo-europeans were white. it took a long time

>embracing the Indo-European I, R1b, R1a blue pill

It's like you're openly admitting to being an immigrant with no archaeological connection to your land.

>>2559522
Do you see that pink IE urheimat on the pic? That's in Europe.

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>>2559522
*Blocks your path

>>2559542
>Caucasus
>Europe

>Indo-Europeans
>white

Today I will remind them: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yamna_culture#Physical_characteristics

>The genetic basis of a number of physical features of the Yamnaya people were ascertained by the ancient DNA study conducted by Haak et al. (2015), Wilde et al.(2014), Mathieson et al. (2015) : they were genetically tall (phenotypic height is determined by both genetics and environmental factors), overwhelmingly dark-eyed (brown), dark-haired and had a skin colour that was moderately light, though somewhat darker than that of the average modern European.[18][5] Surprisingly, given their pastoral lifestyle, there was little evidence of lactase persistence

>>2559552
It's north of the Caucasus

>>2559552

Ukraine is Caucasus?

>>2559556

So?
Italians look like fucking Arabs but Americans call them white.
Why wouldn't PIE be white by the same American standards?
Not like anyone else gives a shit about whiteness anyway.

>>2559556
/pol/ blown the fuck out yet again.

>>2559542
>>2559558
Calm down Hans, the days of your nazi bullshit are over.
>The people of the Yamnaya culture were the likely result of admixture between eastern European hunter-gatherers (via whom they also descend from the Mal'ta-Buret' culture or other, closely related people) and a Near Eastern people,[2] with some research identifying the latter as hunter-gatherers from the Caucasus[3] or a related people also related to Chalcolithic people from what is now Iran.

>>2560184
Forgot source.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yamna_culture

People have looked like they've looked for thousands of years. At some point along time ago we reached a point were people generally are who they are from a physical standpoint.

>>2559620
White primarily means North European. Others are called white when Northies feel like it. Italians are whites when it's convenient but no one ever denies the whiteness of Northern Europeans.

White is best left to describe North European because consistency should be important.

>>2560196
Snowniggers are not white. They're pink.

>>2560184

>Iran

Nope. Anyway, everyone in Europe has some of that old Near Eastern and Caucasus DNA it doesn't make Yamna that special.

>>2560196
>>2560255

most scandinavians are straight up brown and not white. And I'm not shitposting about their immigrant problem I'm 100% referring to the germanic natives. They're not olive skinned but they're still more tanned then most southern europeans

>>2559620
>Italians look like fucking Arabs but Americans call them white.

no they don't. Unless you mean "white passing" arabs but you don't

>>2559556

>proto-Indo-Europeans are Indo-Europeans
>somewhat darker than that of the average modern European

oh wow it's fucking nothing

>>2560184

kys worthless faggot

>>2561778
>no argument
>reddit spacing
You need to go back.

>Iranocentric and Indiacentric autists try to claim they wuz kangz

>>2561785

>gets btfo

>m-muh spacing, n-not an argument

>>2561785

>reddit spacing

Get the fuck off 4chan you cancerous 12 year old newfag.

>Indians are Native Americans, the land belongs to them
>came from Siberia via the Behring straight
Pick one.

>>2561815
They migrated to a land with no human presence

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>>2560255
>Snowniggers are not white. They're pink.

Riiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiight.

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>>2561778
They only had a frequency of like 11% light eyes. They were literally darker than modern Meds.

>>2562298
She put on too much makeup that morning.

>>2562344

Not necessarily. They haven't sequenced Yamna from Ukraine, only southern Russia.
Also, nobody had the full set of depigmentation genes at the time. Northern European depigmentation is a relatively recent thing which happened gradually after the IE invasion.

>>2562344
>among males 20-30
So it doesn't include women, children, teenagers or anyone over 30? very specific data not good to measure whole populations.

>>2562344
You retarded faggot everyone was darker back then save for some small pockets of some HG populations. The same WHG's were blue eyed, but were dark skinned.

>>2562344
Define "light brown hair." Seems far more subjective than blond or red.

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>>2562372
>Define

It's in the name. Light colored brown hair.

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>>2562355
I don't think so. Not every Northern European is pig-skinned.

>it's a retarded faggot is to dumb to read and understand few basic studies so he misinterprets wiki articles and draws retarded conclusions episode

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>>2559522
Are basques white?

>>2562410

He's not drawing any conclusions from anything.

He's an Iranian nationalist who tries to claim Iran is the original Indo-European homeland.

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>>2562418
yes

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>>2562391
Would you say this light brown or just brown? I mean lighting has a lot to due with it in any case. He women you posted has blond highlights. I doubt it's naturally though it could be.

I'm genuinely interested in human migration in our early history and the roots of what make up current "races of man".

However whenever I look into it, it inevitably leads into pseudo science and aryan fan wank. Or stupid arguments that humans didnt come from Africa.

Where can I get an objective view on this if I dont care if modern europeans were not the first settlers or if italians are considered white or not?

>>2562429
>Or stupid arguments that humans didnt come from Africa.
That's just a theory, mate. Even if you think it's right (and most people currently do) you should't instantly dismiss the idea humans didn't originate in Africa as pseudoscience.

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>>2562424
>Would you say this light brown or just brown?

Medium brown.

>He women you posted has blond highlights. I doubt it's naturally though it could be.

The tips of of the hair are usually a little lighter than the rest. My hair is like that.

>>2562400
She matches her pink shirt

>>2562429

Reich lab's papers from Harvard are pretty based.

https://reich.hms.harvard.edu/publications

Avoid Wikipedia like a plague. Everything there is ideological bullshit from 30 years ago painted as science.

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>>2562429
In actual academical literature.

>>2562445

>muh outdated academic guesswork

>>2562438
>Medium brown.
fair enough. However I imagine you can see how reporting on it might be skewed. Whether that's relevant is another story entirely as your map corresponds with darker and lighter phenotype.

everyone is indigenous to the land they have conquered and grown in for hundreds of years

>>2562470
>2013
>outdated

>>2562488

It definitely is outdated since so much new information has come to light since then thanks to genetic research.
The title is too ambitious anyway. Only a complete asshole would claim his guesses constitute a "global prehistory of human migration". We still don't really know all that much.

>>2562488
Not him, but in the terms of genetics and how much more we know now then in 2013, yes it's outdated.

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>>2562422


Why are Indo-European Armenians so close to Semitic Assyrians?

>>2562420
Where did you get that from?

>>2562511
>why are people who are geographically close are also close genetically


Gee I wonder

>>2562515

Because the Iranocentrist loves to post this

>>2559556

and

>>2560184

He's stopped trying to argue for his views as he gets BTFO so hard so he just spams greentexts

>>2562525
Apart from one assumption in the article nothing else indicates an iranian origin.

>>2562520
Also notice how in PCA in various graphs populations appear close to what it's actually like geographically, though of course 1/1 match, but you can clearly see similarity.

>>2562520
But don't they belong to different races?

>>2562544
No. They belong to different language groups.

>>2562477
So Roms are indigenous of Europe?
lol

>>2562539

He's made this thread before several times.
I don't know why anyone other than an Iranian or Kurd insist on the IE originating in Iran.

>>2562575
Nomads are a different story. They aren't indigenous to anywhere.

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>>2562511
>tfw mainlander Greeks are full of slavshit genes

And people still keep memeing they're Turks instead.

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>>2562600

>>2559522
>Blacks are native to South Africa
>Bantu Expansion

Pick one.